I got a slight burnt rayon with the Ephro but I'm not wicking fast enough my builds are the issue not the tank.
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I got a slight burnt rayon with the Ephro but I'm not wicking fast enough my builds are the issue not the tank.
Its amazing how the research uncovers so many contradictions. One you-tube video says wrap the coil leads counter clockwise on the electrode screw while in this thread the opinion is wrap them clockwise like a normal electrician would. That's just one example, there are a million ways to build these and that's why I keep failing.
But right now I have a build on the Tribeca that is working (knock on wood.) No cotton burning and it seems the wick is keeping up with my intake (I have a very strong/fast intake.) When I smoked analogs people were always amazed how fast I smoked 2 cigarettes at break. That's my main issue, getting enough cotton/rayon thru the micro coil without hard packing the coil. Its difficult but I think cotton may wick a little faster?
I tried a dozen builds with rayon. Every time I refilled it would take a half an hour to get it to start wicking. Gave up for now and went back to cotton which gives me zero problems. I don't think you can build a bad cotton kayfun. It just works....
I have heard from a couple of users that have the same problem with rayon but through pm's they don't want to rock the boat with those reporting great results using rayon
I have heard from a couple of users that have the same problem with rayon but through pm's they don't want to rock the boat with those reporting great results using rayon
Oh trust me when I say that I can have a horrible cotton kayfun build lmao. Trust me. I have a million posts on this thread alone about it lol
Surprisingly I reached for Rayon to build my Ephro this morning for my homemade Newminster NET. This build is rockin'. Used 28 gauge and the screwdriver that comes with the Tribeca to make the coil. I guess I used just the right amount of Rayon and my hands weren't shaking (took my medicine an hour before.) So far this rayon build is rock'n. That's 2 good builds in a row which is a first for me.
I think a better word would be variances. I agree that there are a ton of differences in builds, and most dont really affect performance at all especially which direction you make your wraps. Whether clockwise or CC it doesn't matter, it's just personal preference and what your used to doing. But then there are total differences in posts and videos that does matter, and it's hard to figure out which one pertains to you, and like you said, that's what makes it difficult. There cannot be one exact build that works for everyone perfectly, because everyone is using different stuff and have different devices. I do think, however,there are build basics that work, for the most part, for everyone, fine tuning is ultimately done for more specific set ups. And also Like you said, I think the biggest discrepancies are with the wick, some say loose, some say tight, some say short, while others say long. Your exactly right about putting in enough to wick but not to the point where it starves it self, and I have found those amounts differ from cotton to cotton. In the end, it's like anything else, some will say it's the easiest tank they own, while others say it's a pain in the ...., and here again, there are many reasons.
I spent 3 straight nights trying more trying less rayon.... never could get it to start wicking on it's own for about an hour. It worked fine until it went dry from the orginial juice I used for setting up. Yes I read all the sucess stories with rayon so can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Cotton works every time and have zero issues so I went back to cotton.
Although not in the ehpro, I do have a couple of sweet juices that just don't taste good in my kayfuns. No matter what I have done, the tastes is nothing like it should be.
It might depend on who makes it. I think there is a couple different ones out there. I don't know who makes the one I have in the postal system. I think one model uses the same size chimmney as a regular kayfun.. not sure which one I will receive.
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Same diameter in mine but the chimney cap stem is much longer
I have been messing with the rayon for over a week now. What I have found is that because I was so used to the cotton, it took me quite a few builds to get the correct amount in the coil. Imo, it quite a bit more the cotton. A few times I thought I had the right amount of rayon but after a while, dry hits. This was because the rayon shrinks a little once it breaks in. In the end I got used to the amounts and it does work pretty good, and that coil seems to last alot longer before gunking. As for flavor of the rayon, I personally don't see any compared to my cotton builds. I read the rayon thread with people saying it's night and day compared to the flavor from cotton and that the flavors are so much better that juice companies will have to change their recipes knowing that people will use rayon. I do think the rayon is great for sure, but solely on flavor, I just haven't seen this utopia.
My normal build is 30 kanthal 5/4 wrap. I even tried using 28 kanthal 5/4 still no luck. It would work after about a half hour of priming. Where I fill my cotton builds and just vape. I don't need to do anything special to make them work. I did feel the rayon changed my juice flavors made them sweeter which I did not like anyways so easy choice to go back to cotton.
Now what to do with 499 feet of rayon..... (it was cheap so not a biggie)
Now what to do with 499 feet of rayon..... (it was cheap so not a biggie)
Same here, I also tasted a sweeter note to my juices. This sweetness wasn't that bad with my particular juices and after a while I did get used to it. I still use the cotton for most of my builds for, like you, I do prefer it. I will still keep messing with the rayon though, because also like you, I have a monster box of it.
Sweet deal! Glad you got a good build going. The rayon works really good, imo it allows you to add a fair amount in the coil and not have to worry if its to much (at least not as much as cotton). And it wicks really fast with great flavor. Also it can stay in longer. I do think it's a great option if your not quite getting consistent results with cotton. So again, if anyone out there wants to try the rayon, I have a ton and would send some out to ya.
In my time owning/using a Kayfun (10 months now) I have seen every imaginable build using every imaginable wicking material. They all come and they all go and when the dust settles, what is left is a standard microcoil with cotton ball.
The rayon literally clogged up right after I typed this message. I think this thread may be a jinx.
But that's the symptoms. It will vape fine at first then quit wicking.
One thing I'm not clear on is the siphone channels. How do you go about not blocking the top of the deck. I mean I know you don't want any wick in the vertical slot but what about the hole left at the top on the deck?
I just rewicked to cotton and when I was filling juice came out of the drip tube, so I think that seal may be bad.
What do people think about me trying a Fogger V4+? Is it easier to build?
What do people think about me trying a Fogger V4+? Is it easier to build?
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