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[TruSound]

Howdy Kayfunners, I posted this in another KF thread here at ECF, I've updated my build method so figured I'd share here as well...

I now use Cellucotton Rayon as my wicking material in a 2.5mm 7 wrap .8-.9 ohm 26 gauge Kanthal coil with no wick over the top. The performance is so good with this setup I never felt like the over-wick was necessary with this build.

Here's the current Rayon build, there's a number of benefits to using it, it wicks way better than cotton, produces better flavor, outlasts cotton by a ridiculously long time, I go at least 4 tankfuls before rewicking and it produces a nice warm vape in the bigger diameter 26 gauge coil.

 

[regal55]

All of a sudden 24 mg/mg is too much nic for my kayfun, what should I drop to.

 

[eratikmind]

All of a sudden 24 mg/mg is too much nic for my kayfun, what should I drop to.

You may want to try either 18 or 12mg. I'm down to 6mg on my KFL.

 

[Lillie Bennett]

All of a sudden 24 mg/mg is too much nic for my kayfun, what should I drop to.

Here is an extreme for you. I have been working my way down to .1 mg from 12. It has been a pita because the strong dose wouldn't let me vape enough without throwing away. I finally found out that 2 drops from my 12mg supply into a 0mg 12ml bottle gave me .1mg. You could do something similar with a fresh bottle and an rda then work your way up. Think of it this way: 1 hit at 24mg = 2 hits at 12mg, etc.

 

[Midniteoyl]

regal, I would try 18mg... If you find it a little too little, you could mix the 18 and 24.

 

[TheKiwi]

18 is a good place to start. Nods. Or you can just dilute your current juice. 2 parts juice to 1 part base will give you 16mg which is close. Then you can tweak accordingly.

 

[vapdivrr]

Howdy Kayfunners, I posted this in another KF thread here at ECF, I've updated my build method so figured I'd share here as well...

I now use Cellucotton Rayon as my wicking material in a 2.5mm 7 wrap .8-.9 ohm 26 gauge Kanthal coil with no wick over the top. The performance is so good with this setup I never felt like the over-wick was necessary with this build.

Here's the current Rayon build, there's a number of benefits to using it, it wicks way better than cotton, produces better flavor, outlasts cotton by a ridiculously long time, I go at least 4 tankfuls before rewicking and it produces a nice warm vape in the bigger diameter 26 gauge coil.

I don't think many have ever used cotton over the coil in the first place. I did try it last year and for me it kind of reduced airfow. I think if you have a good wicking set up, the flavor wick doesn't do to much. I do however like the rayon, especially that it does last longer but as for flavor, imo there's not much difference. I really believe the key with any set up is getting full results, if those results aren't achieved then other cover ups help and make it seem better. Not that flavor wicks and especially rayon are cover ups but I would venture to say that with your new method you have finally achieved the perfect set up. Have you tried reducing the tails in that rayon build? With my rayon builds I reduce my tails to half of what I see in your pic but if that's working great then that's all that matters.

 

[nasca]

what do you guys mean by wick over the top and flavor wick?

 

[TheKiwi]

what do you guys mean by wick over the top and flavor wick?

Refers to the same thing.

Imagine a standard build with a wick through the coil, and onto a juice deck.

Then have another cotton that rubs from one juice deck, lies above the coil, and down to the other juice deck.

 

[kas122461]

I was one of the few that did it, and now I do it with silica, threw the coil, so I can still dry burn, the flavor is is not quite as good, as all cotton, but with 3 KFL's and 1 91%, I got tired of changing the cotton all the time. I know we discussed this before, I just thought I should speak up.

KAS

I don't think many have ever used cotton over the coil in the first place. I did try it last year and for me it kind of reduced airfow. I think if you have a good wicking set up, the flavor wick doesn't do to much. I do however like the rayon, especially that it does last longer but as for flavor, imo there's not much difference. I really believe the key with any set up is getting full results, if those results aren't achieved then other cover ups help and make it seem better. Not that flavor wicks and especially rayon are cover ups but I would venture to say that with your new method you have finally achieved the perfect set up. Have you tried reducing the tails in that rayon build? With my rayon builds I reduce my tails to half of what I see in your pic but if that's working great then that's all that matters.

 

[kas122461]

I din't have a pic of one of mine but here.



KAS

what do you guys mean by wick over the top and flavor wick?

 

[TruSound]

Never tried narrowing the tails any more than you see in the pic, is there an advantage to doing this ?, what I've been doing seems to work really well so I never felt the need to skinny up the tails. In my experience with cotton and the over-wick, it produced slightly better flavor and definitely more vapor...it's worked for some but not all.

For me the Rayon produces a noticeably cleaner and generally better vape than cotton ever did, but where it really shines is in the longevity department, reason enough alone to use it.

I don't think many have ever used cotton over the coil in the first place. I did try it last year and for me it kind of reduced airfow. I think if you have a good wicking set up, the flavor wick doesn't do to much. I do however like the rayon, especially that it does last longer but as for flavor, imo there's not much difference. I really believe the key with any set up is getting full results, if those results aren't achieved then other cover ups help and make it seem better. Not that flavor wicks and especially rayon are cover ups but I would venture to say that with your new method you have finally achieved the perfect set up. Have you tried reducing the tails in that rayon build? With my rayon builds I reduce my tails to half of what I see in your pic but if that's working great then that's all that matters.

 

[nasca]

Refers to the same thing.

Imagine a standard build with a wick through the coil, and onto a juice deck.

Then have another cotton that rubs from one juice deck, lies above the coil, and down to the other juice deck.

gotcha. thanks.

I do this: E-Cigarette Forum - crxess - Blogs

I've posted about this a million times now...and I still think it works perfectly.

 

[MaxUT]

I've done that one too, it helps if you have trouble with popping and spitting.
Just have to make sure the shoulders of the wick aren't compressed and the airflow isn't choked off.

Edit: I've also been using ECF member crxess's cotton nest wick technique

 

[eratikmind]

ECF member crxess' "Nest" wicking technique is a stellar addition to the already excellent micro coil and cotton wick combination.

 

[TheKiwi]

Can someone explain to me how the nest build would work well? It seems to me that it would be an awfully inefficient form of wicking. Thanks!

 

[Newportlocal]

At least in my experience. I can make my wicks to the channel shorter, and the nest/donut around the coil after adding the chimney appears to give me more vapor production. I get a long life out of this set up before a burnt taste/need to rewick scenario. I sometimes use the other standard style, but really enjoy the nest method.

 

[eratikmind]

Can someone explain to me how the nest build would work well? It seems to me that it would be an awfully inefficient form of wicking. Thanks!

I have no clue and have not given it much thought. All I know is that it works better in flavor and vapor production. It's just an additional piece of cotton on top of what I already have been doing for the past year.

 

[vapdivrr]

Never tried narrowing the tails any more than you see in the pic, is there an advantage to doing this ?, what I've been doing seems to work really well so I never felt the need to skinny up the tails. In my experience with cotton and the over-wick, it produced slightly better flavor and definitely more vapor...it's worked for some but not all.

For me the Rayon produces a noticeably cleaner and generally better vape than cotton ever did, but where it really shines is in the longevity department, reason enough alone to use it.

I have found with my 1.6 thru 1.8 diameters no tail thinning, but I find that when I go bigger in coil diameters the tails get quite thick and the consistency of the vape isn't quite as good as when I thin them down a bit. Now if I'm going straight down with my wick, it doesn't seem to matter as much but for my angled coil and angled wick, I just think it to much wick down on the ledge which isn't needed. perhaps it because of the reduced airflow in chamber or that the wick is so close to channel openings.

 

[nasca]

Can someone explain to me how the nest build would work well? It seems to me that it would be an awfully inefficient form of wicking. Thanks!

I cannot give a technical reason, but it seems to provide a reserve for liquid and more flavor and vapor production.

here's another method: Wicking Kayfun/Russian v2.0 - Imgur -- which is similar to the navy nest method. the simple circle nest is much easier, though.