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Definitely gonna try this out. Not only does the wick seem 50x easier to build/maintain than the eko special 8 I've been using, but now I won't have to go through the process of boiling in distilled water (which annoys me for some reason). Seems like a win win to me.

It is a win. When I first got my KfLs, I started out with the figure 8 and ekowool. It works great; but the micro coil/cotton ball combo is so much easier and better, IMO.
 

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Grrr signed up for FedEx to sign for my kayfun package online and they still dared to leave a note requiring an indirect signature!!

They did that to me and then came back a couple hours later and dropped it off.

I did the micro coil last night and it was vaping really good. This morning, after sitting all night, I got dry hits :confused: so I grabbed my silica wicked RSST and went to work...thinking about it all day, I figured I had maybe blocked the juice inlet.. so when I got home today, I took the chimney off and moved the wick tails closer in on the ledge, away from the juice inlet. I let it sit for a little while and now I'm still getting some dry hits and a hint of burnt taste. My resistance is 1.7 and I'm using it on a roller. If vapdivrr is using 26g wire and his resistance is .6 and he's using it on a mech and not getting dry or burnt hits... why would I be? I'm not vaping near the watts.
My juice is 50/50. It's obvious I'm not getting good wicking, (using cotton) .. the first hit is good, the second dryer and then dryer.

Any suggestions?
 

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They did that to me and then came back a couple hours later and dropped it off.

I did the micro coil last night and it was vaping really good. This morning, after sitting all night, I got dry hits :confused: so I grabbed my silica wicked RSST and went to work...thinking about it all day, I figured I had maybe blocked the juice inlet.. so when I got home today, I took the chimney off and moved the wick tails closer in on the ledge, away from the juice inlet. I let it sit for a little while and now I'm still getting some dry hits and a hint of burnt taste. My resistance is 1.7 and I'm using it on a roller. If vapdivrr is using 26g wire and his resistance is .6 and he's using it on a mech and not getting dry or burnt hits... why would I be? I'm not vaping near the watts.
My juice is 50/50. It's obvious I'm not getting good wicking, (using cotton) .. the first hit is good, the second dryer and then dryer.

Any suggestions?

Sounds like a wicking problem, for sure. Hard to tell, without a picture. I trim the wicks just long enough so that they sit right on the ledge. Are you orienting them so that when you screw the chimney on, clockwise, the ends stay put on the ledge, instead of pulling away or bunching up?
Can you post a picture of what you've got?
 

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Sounds like a wicking problem, for sure. Hard to tell, without a picture. I trim the wicks just long enough so that they sit right on the ledge. Are you orienting them so that when you screw the chimney on, clockwise, the ends stay put on the ledge, instead of pulling away or bunching up?
Can you post a picture of what you've got?

sometimes its the amount of cotton used, its kind of a fine line. its actually better to use a thinner piece then a fatter piece. my guess is that your cotton is to thick when you installed it through the wick. the cotton really swells up a lot and if the piece is to thick it can get strangled. just a guess though, all I know is that I have never experienced any dry hits at all, none, never with cotton because its wicks like no other. it is the absolute best wicking material I know of, period. there are only a few possibilities to your issue, one is stated above. also to thin of a piece also can do this. the cotton has to slide into the coil very easily with only a slight resistance, I mean slight. also the piece needs to be quite dense. I roll it with my fingers, wet fingers, which compresses it, but not to dense either. when rolled it is still a little spongy, but not loose, but not kind of hard either. my money is on the amount and density of the cotton your doing. also it can be that you tails aren't down all the way. I don't even think of positioning the tails near the little groove, all I do is push them down to the bottom. I make the tails just long enough to reach the deck bottom, no longer, well maybe 1mm longer, but they go straight down, they don't go straight down then angle over. got to remember the cotton swells up a lot so you don't want to crowd that area where the juice comes in. the last possibility is you have a defective device and the channel where the juice go in isn't cut deep enough, this would restrict the juice from entering the chamber. this is all I can think of when it comes to the dry hits in this set-up. also after you make a build put the sleeve on, but not the hat thingy, then drip into the coil until the juice starts to leak from the channels on the outside of the sleeve, now put the hat on and assemble the device completely and then fill. I then take a few dry vapes to get the juice inside the chamber, now its ready to vape. if you don't saturate the cotton before assembling and you don't dry vape it, the cotton can singe, and when it gets burnt its not good. good luck donnah.
 
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I got my kayfun lite this past Friday. Built my very first coil ever that same day, 4 wraps of 32 ga kanthal, with a 2mm silica wick in the classic figure 8 pattern. I was in a slight rush, had to leave to go hang out with friends. So, my coil wasn't as great as what it could be. For the rest of that day I wasn't that impressed. I was thinking, darn, my protank does better, I may have to rethink how to make a coil. But, then, the next day, without doing anything, it just came alive. And I'm thinking, wow, this thing is great! Now, I'm wondering what will happen when I put on about 5 wraps with 30 ga and using the ekowool that I received. Do you all think there will be any improvement with just those differences from what I'm running currently?
 
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I got my kayfun lite this past Friday. Built my very first coil ever that same day, 4 wraps of 32 ga kanthal, with a 2mm silica wick in the classic figure 8 pattern. I was in a slight rush, had to leave to go hang out with friends. So, my coil wasn't as great as what it could be. For the rest of that day I wasn't that impressed. I was thinking, darn, my protank does better, I may have to rethink how to make a coil. But, then, the next day, without doing anything, it just came alive. And I'm thinking, wow, this thing is great! Note, I'm wondering what will happen when I put on about 5 wraps with 30 ga and using the ekowool that I received. Do you all think there will be any improvement with just those differences from what I'm running currently?

yes, the thicker the wire the better the flavor. if your liking 32g, you will love the 30g. the thing is to maintain your your resistance to the wattage preferred. don't know what the resistance is in your current build but lets say 2Ω. well the 30g is going to give you more wraps for the same resistance. with a standard wrap, like the one your doing, you can only do so many wraps. anyways imo, the thicker the gauge the better the flavor, also the lower the resistance the thicker the vapor.
 

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sometimes its the amount of cotton used, its kind of a fine line. its actually better to use a thinner piece then a fatter piece. my guess is that your cotton is to thick when you installed it through the wick. the cotton really swells up a lot and if the piece is to thick it can get strangled. just a guess though, all I know is that I have never experienced any dry hits at all, none, never with cotton because its wicks like no other. it is the absolute best wicking material I know of, period. there are only a few possibilities to your issue, one is stated above. also to thin of a piece also can do this. the cotton has to slide into the coil very easily with only a slight resistance, I mean slight. also the piece needs to be quite dense. I roll it with my fingers, wet fingers, which compresses it, but not to dense either. when rolled it is still a little spongy, but not loose, but not kind of hard either. my money is on the amount and density of the cotton your doing. also it can be that you tails aren't down all the way. I don't even think of positioning the tails near the little groove, all I do is push them down to the bottom. I make the tails just long enough to reach the deck bottom, no longer, well maybe 1mm longer, but they go straight down, they don't go straight down then angle over. got to remember the cotton swells up a lot so you don't want to crowd that area where the juice comes in. the last possibility is you have a defective device and the channel where the juice go in isn't cut deep enough, this would restrict the juice from entering the chamber. this is all I can think of when it comes to the dry hits in this set-up. also after you make a build put the sleeve on, but not the hat thingy, then drip into the coil until the juice starts to leak from the channels on the outside of the sleeve, now put the hat on and assemble the device completely and then fill. I then take a few dry vapes to get the juice inside the chamber, now its ready to vape. if you don't saturate the cotton before assembling and you don't dry vape it, the cotton can singe, and when it gets burnt its not good. good luck donnah.

Yep, I think the trick is to use the right amount of cotton. I differ with vapdivrr in that I don't wet the cotton to roll it. I roll it dry, except the very tip, so I can get it started through the coil. It probably doesn't matter much, because it's going to be wet with juice anyway, eventually. But my wick is still somewhat fluffy when I pull it through.
I have mine drop down to the ledge, and then lay horizontal along the ledge. I trim them so that the end stops right at the end of the ledge. The horizontal part goes from right to left, so that the threads on the chimney don't skrunch up the wick when I screw the chimney on.
 

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it's looks like maybe my coil isn't so good.. I'm seeing at least one part that doesn't look to be in contact with the wick. I guess just like a mesh wick, if there is a part of the coil that isnt touching it, it'll give a burnt taste. So maybe it's my coil.


Your wick looks fine. But you have a bad loop on your coil. Upper left end. I don't think you're getting a dry hit. I'm guessing it's a hot spot.
 
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