Kayfun LITE

[vapdivrr]

nice coil and... nice music...haha

don't know if you knew why that music is playing but I kind of had to do it. in my original attempt to down load to utube this very same video had some music playing in the back round while I did the video, it was some zeppelin, but barely audible. after down loading to u tube they had to review it for possible copy right issues. one minute it played, the next, no audio. in the end it was video only. so I dubbed some elevator music to drown out the good music.

 

[vapdivrr]

after watching your first video i got to thinking how i was going to go about mounting it and thats pretty much exactly what i was thinking lol. another great vid bud. now, to actually do it

originally I thought that to get the coil in the correct way the leads had to go around the screws the correct way, and for me it was counter clock wise. today I did some other coils and I must have wrapped them around my needle in the opposite direction, this coil now mounted to the screws in the opposite direction. so it really depends on which direction you initially wrap the micro coil around your needle or drill bit to what direction it wraps around the screws on the kayfun.

 

[vapdivrr]

That is a beautiful micro coil! I really need to have my try at those. How do you pull your wick through once the coil is already wrapped though? Twist really tight?

yes the piece of cotton is really small. you just twist it up kind of tightly and then attempt to thread it like a needle.

 

[vapdivrr]

Mine was vaping great yesterday, great flavor, vapor and wicking perfect, I was thrilled. Then I refilled it...careful to not overfill ...dry hits. My coils are tight and touching. My wicks are the same as when it was wicking well. All I did was refill it. This balance/equalization of air pressure is tricky!

After a few minutes of some really hard vaping, it seems to be coming around. I remember when I first started with carto tanks.. I had a really rough time with flooding and leaking but once I understood the principles on how it worked, I never had any more problems. I'm hoping it will be the same with this. when everything is right and it's working ... there's nothing better. But if something isn't right, be it the coil, the wick or the air pressure thing.. there's nothing worse. I'm not really concerned though, I'll figure it out

you know I suppose the cotton wicks can last for quite a while, I have heard people keeping them in for a week. I, on the other hand change them every time I refill, which for me is every other day, this is because I also vape a reo device as well as the kay-lite. its not that they need to be changed, its just that I keep doing different things to it, and changing to different juices. maybe once or twice I have just refilled without changing the wick, which worked fine. all I do, which im sure is no different to what you do is, turn device upside down, remove screw, syringe all the juice out(if switching flavors) and while the device is still upside down syringe the new juice in, I then replace the screw, turn right side up, mount to mod, and then take the primer dry vapes, let sit for a second and good to go. before refilling how low do you run the juice levels? maybe it is possible that the juice level gets to a point where there is insufficient pressure to keep the wick wet, it then gets slightly singed and is never 100 percent again? I have been using the micro coils in the reo for a while, but only for a short time in the k-lite, the devices are totally different so I am still learning the differences on how these micro's react in the k-lite. when I fill up the k-lite, as long as I can tilt it slightly and see an air bubble it seems to be good. I do fill it way over the plastic part, but not 100 percent full. with my syringe, I use the ml markings and just over 4ml is perfect. like I said as long as there is an air bubble when tilted it has been working great.

 

[qorax]

Did ever joemikel* return here? And did he buy the K-Lite?
Just musing
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*The originator of this thread

 

[donnah]

you know I suppose the cotton wicks can last for quite a while, I have heard people keeping them in for a week. I, on the other hand change them every time I refill, which for me is every other day, this is because I also vape a reo device as well as the kay-lite. its not that they need to be changed, its just that I keep doing different things to it, and changing to different juices. maybe once or twice I have just refilled without changing the wick, which worked fine. all I do, which im sure is no different to what you do is, turn device upside down, remove screw, syringe all the juice out(if switching flavors) and while the device is still upside down syringe the new juice in, I then replace the screw, turn right side up, mount to mod, and then take the primer dry vapes, let sit for a second and good to go. before refilling how low do you run the juice levels? maybe it is possible that the juice level gets to a point where there is insufficient pressure to keep the wick wet, it then gets slightly singed and is never 100 percent again? I have been using the micro coils in the reo for a while, but only for a short time in the k-lite, the devices are totally different so I am still learning the differences on how these micro's react in the k-lite. when I fill up the k-lite, as long as I can tilt it slightly and see an air bubble it seems to be good. I do fill it way over the plastic part, but not 100 percent full. with my syringe, I use the ml markings and just over 4ml is perfect. like I said as long as there is an air bubble when tilted it has been working great.

No, I don't vape it dry and since I've had it, I've been playing with it (taking it apart.. new wicks.. new coils ect) that I haven't actually refilled it without changing something. At first my coil had that bad, loose loop. Fixed that then I thought my wicks weren't working (wicking) but they were, I just had to get used to vaping it to get the air pressure inside it right. My current wick has been in there 3 days. I just refilled it and after a few primer puffs it's working and wicking great. Just like I did with mesh in genesis rbas, I'm having to kinda relearn how to vape this particular device. Other than the first bad coil, my problem all along has been learning how to vape it and equalize the air pressure.

In the begining I was having more bad vapes than good... now I'm having more good vapes than bad LOL It's been fun learning the ins and outs of this thing.. thanks to you, qorax and Rule62

 

[villarino1k]

Finally got a kayfun lite!

 

[Rule62]

you know I suppose the cotton wicks can last for quite a while, I have heard people keeping them in for a week. I, on the other hand change them every time I refill, which for me is every other day, this is because I also vape a reo device as well as the kay-lite. its not that they need to be changed, its just that I keep doing different things to it, and changing to different juices. maybe once or twice I have just refilled without changing the wick, which worked fine. all I do, which im sure is no different to what you do is, turn device upside down, remove screw, syringe all the juice out(if switching flavors) and while the device is still upside down syringe the new juice in, I then replace the screw, turn right side up, mount to mod, and then take the primer dry vapes, let sit for a second and good to go. before refilling how low do you run the juice levels? maybe it is possible that the juice level gets to a point where there is insufficient pressure to keep the wick wet, it then gets slightly singed and is never 100 percent again? I have been using the micro coils in the reo for a while, but only for a short time in the k-lite, the devices are totally different so I am still learning the differences on how these micro's react in the k-lite. when I fill up the k-lite, as long as I can tilt it slightly and see an air bubble it seems to be good. I do fill it way over the plastic part, but not 100 percent full. with my syringe, I use the ml markings and just over 4ml is perfect. like I said as long as there is an air bubble when tilted it has been working great.

I've mentioned the first Phoenix Bottom Coil Clearos before, because these K Lites remind me of them; just in larger form. One problem people used to run into when learning to use the Phoenix was in topping them off, when they were only partially empty. I suspect the K Lites are the same way. I've never tried just adding juice. Whenever I refill, I first pull out whatever juice is remaining in the tank, with my syringe; so that I'm filling an empty tank. I only fill 3.5 ml, to insure there is sufficient air space in the tank. It must work. I've never flooded, nor had a dry hit.

 

[Lando80]

Less is more in this case folks. I've put 8-10 builds in my lite so far. All with the same basic configuration. I use 2 mm standard silica and 28 kanthal I make the standard 8 wick with a 6/7 wrap. Gives me .9 to 1.2 ohm resistance. Leave the tails north and south and mount the coil in the same way as the micro coil vid. Make sure not to wind your coil so tight that it chokes your wick for two reasons. For one it would choke off your wicking capability and reason 2 is that once you've mounted the coil you need to pull the two "dead ends" of your wick to adjust the size of your two wick loops. This is the "less is more" portion of the build. Pull those dead ends until the loops are just big enough to shove a number two pencil through them. This will make your loops just long enough to barely kiss the deck. I don't let the loops get any where near the feed channels When I take it apart after use the loops are hovering just a micron above the deck. The juice will get there -trust the device. It's not a carto or a spheroid and doesn't need constant saturation of some wooly material to produce a saturated vape. The adjustability lies in the air gap of your coil above the air intake. I like mine about a mm give or take. Also don't get greedy with the fill level. Just a bit over the clear section is my sweet spot--about 3.8 mls. And I find a more fully saturated vapes to the point of near gurgle at the very end of a tank. I vape mine totally dry and the last 3 or 4 hits before totally empty are the best. That being said, using this technique I've yet to get a scratchy dry hit. I should add that I'm a novice, at best, since my previous builds were exclusively on bcc's. I got into vaping 3 months ago. I'm glad all you veterans did the Guinnee pigging for us noobs. It's a great time to be a vapor. Excellent device

 

[Idaholandho]

Here is the his video where he shows how to do it.

Thanks d!

When wrapping any coil especially micros be sure and torch the wire before coiling to get rid of the springiness of the wire. It helps a ton and would help him a bit.

 

[Tennovan]

Just a quick update, but I was in a hurry last night so I skipped the micro and set up a standard 30g wrap on eko. Its been vaping great for more than a day and no dry hits... I can see air bubbles rising occasionally. I'm thinking my issues with the cotton/micro might have been due to me rolling the cotton too tight/thick and therefore choking the wick. I had to toss the old coil because the cotton was swollen and stuck.

Next time I rebuild, I'll try the cotton again but make it much less thick. I went back and watched vapdivrr's video again and noticed that his wick slid right in with minimal resistance whereas mine pretty much had to be tightly rolled in order to fit. I also can't remember if I've got 16g or 18g needles so I've got a bunch of 16g on order. If I've been wrapping around an 18g needle... haha, that might explain it.

 

[raqball]

My Kayfun Lite arrived today from Russia!

Here it can be seen relaxing on top of my Atmizoo Roller SS-M in 18500 mode.. The match is spot on!!!!

 

[Rule62]

My Kayfun Lite arrived today from Russia!

Here it can be seen relaxing on top of my Atmizoo Rooler SS-M in 18500 mode.. The match is spot on!!!!

Looks great on the Roller.

 

[digilunatic]

Just popped in my first micro coil into the kfl. 30 ga kanthal, around a 1/16 drill bit. I think it's 9 or 10 wraps. Ohms out to 1.7. Sorry, didn't take any pics, too excited to install it, lol! I used cotton from a q-tip. Wow, it really doesn't take much! I was looking at the qtip, thinking: geez! Is this going to be enough???
Well, cone to find out, just about 1/3 or 1/4 of the qtip cotton is all that's needed.
Currently waiting for the cotton to saturate. I primed it so that juice started coming out of the channels. Then assembled it all together. Filled it up. Taken a few dry hits (no firing) to help ensure the cotton gets good saturation.
The anticipation is killing me!!!

 

[deezdrama]

Hit it! Hit it! Lol

Just popped in my first micro coil into the kfl. 30 ga kanthal, around a 1/16 drill bit. I think it's 9 or 10 wraps. Ohms out to 1.7. Sorry, didn't take any pics, too excited to install it, lol! I used cotton from a q-tip. Wow, it really doesn't take much! I was looking at the qtip, thinking: geez! Is this going to be enough???
Well, cone to find out, just about 1/3 or 1/4 of the qtip cotton is all that's needed.
Currently waiting for the cotton to saturate. I primed it so that juice started coming out of the channels. Then assembled it all together. Filled it up. Taken a few dry hits (no firing) to help ensure the cotton gets good saturation.
The anticipation is killing me!!!

 

[digilunatic]

Hit it! Hit it! Lol

Well, I did. I waited 30 minutes after assembling/filling.The first couple of hits were good. Afterwards, it seemed to taste burned. that was so absolutely horrible tasting!! I broke it back down. The cotton didn't look burned. Not even charred. It was slightly darker at the coil than the rest (the juice has a yellowish tint to it). I even dropped the volts down to 3. Still tasted burned. Who wants to take a guess what the heck I did wrong?

 

[Tennovan]

Well, I did. I waited 30 minutes after assembling/filling.The first couple of hits were good. Afterwards, it seemed to taste burned. that was so absolutely horrible tasting!! I broke it back down. The cotton didn't look burned. Not even charred. It was slightly darker at the coil than the rest (the juice has a yellowish tint to it). I even dropped the volts down to 3. Still tasted burned. Who wants to take a guess what the heck I did wrong?

A couple of us have been having similar issues. It hits great for a while and then the dry hits come along. Other times its dry from the very start. My next rebuild will be my 4th or 5th attempt at a micro w/ cotton and I've yet to really get it right. I've had enough practice to know the coils were built correctly, so its gotta be the cotton. I went back to eko for a while so that I can really enjoy the KFL.

Not sure I can give any advice other than keep trying. There are some here that really love the taste of micros -- since no one can possibly be a fan of burning cotton, they must be doing something right. If you haven't yet, you might try watching vapdivrr's videos from a couple pages back. My next move is to make my cotton look exactly like his... if that doesn't do the trick, then micros/cotton just aren't for me.

 

[raqball]

Is the cotton blocking the juice well of the Kayfun?

If the wick is blocking it the juice will taste burnt as it's not getting enough flow to keep up with the vaping.

Another thought might be a bad coil.. Did you look for hot spots?

Just a few thoughts / things to check..

 

[deezdrama]

Either too much cotton packed in the chamber and blocking the juice channels or too much cotton is rolled too tight in the coil.... it should slide in the coil easily, then fold down and cut off even with floor of the chamber

 

[digilunatic]

I'm sure the coil was good. And I made sure the tails just barely hit the deck. After I mounted the coil, I stuck it onto the battery and fired it. The coil would quickly heat up and turn red from the middle, then go to the outsides. I'm gonna guess that I simply had too much cotton. I rolled it rather tight to get it through the coil. I think I did that because it just didn't seem that there's enough tail (e.g.thickness) to wick well. Next time I try it with even less cotton.
I went back to a normal coil fit the time being, because I really like my kfl and I couldn't stand to know that it was just burning crap. Lol!