Kayfun LITE

[Bronze]

This is a hardware thread and I see some folks discussing e-liquid. I surely don't want to turn this into an e-liquid thread but I understand sometimes it can't be helped to talk about e-liquid due to the nature of the Kayfun (along with many RBAs) and how it electrifies some juices. Some juices change more than others...usully for the better. There is one juice, however, that I discovered that goes from the greatest juice to whatever the word you use for better than greatest (greatester?).

HHV's Dragon's Fire.

I know Dust agrees. But perhaps it would be interesting to hear of similar stories from others on this thread....which juice was most transformed using your Kayfun (bad to good, good to great, or even great to bad if it exists). Don't want to turn this into a vendor pitch thread so perhaps we can keep it focused.

 

[evgeny131]

P.O.E.T- Amaretto Nite Cap (Pear in Vanilla spiced Amaretto Finish).....I was not impressed initially using my Trident, a few days later filled my KFL and really experienced a DELICIOUS juice!!! Highly recommended if you like complex rich flavors, either due to steeping or the KFL, the layers of flavors blended so much better and brought the Pear forward, which got kinda lost using a dripper....this is really something special imho...

The Plume Room- Banana Mint Milkshake
Jameson's- Peaches and Cream
...both liquids tasted MUCH better out of the K3.1ES than my Trident....
Those are my liquids of choice at the moment....

To sum it up, at the moment, using 1.1-1.3ohm 28awg microcoil builds and 2mm hollow ekowool, on all 3 types of Kayfun's (3.1, Lite, Mini) I have never gotten a richer and more flavorful vape...I have to admit, after using the SQuape for a few weeks now, it DOES NOT compete with the K3.1...it's not nearly as flexible and there are still kinks to work out....

 

[evgeny131]

btw....from the many vendors of ekowool- i noticed a great improvement in wicking using Litecigusa's 2mm hollow compared to similar product elsewhere....don't know why....but this stuff just sucks up liquid....great flavor....

 

[evgeny131]

interesting comparison....
Nemesis 18650+KFL vs. King 18350+SQuape

 

[nttdemented]

Gotta love Ohman's Elan Shorty NTT style on the Kayfun. Tell me... How is the non-existant gathering of condensation?

 

[Woody7781]

P.O.E.T- Amaretto Nite Cap (Pear in Vanilla spiced Amaretto Finish).....I was not impressed initially using my Trident, a few days later filled my KFL and really experienced a DELICIOUS juice!!! Highly recommended if you like complex rich flavors, either due to steeping or the KFL, the layers of flavors blended so much better and brought the Pear forward, which got kinda lost using a dripper....this is really something special imho...

The Plume Room- Banana Mint Milkshake
Jameson's- Peaches and Cream
...both liquids tasted MUCH better out of the K3.1ES than my Trident....
Those are my liquids of choice at the moment....

To sum it up, at the moment, using 1.1-1.3ohm 28awg microcoil builds and 2mm hollow ekowool, on all 3 types of Kayfun's (3.1, Lite, Mini) I have never gotten a richer and more flavorful vape...I have to admit, after using the SQuape for a few weeks now, it DOES NOT compete with the K3.1...it's not nearly as flexible and there are still kinks to work out....

Hey I'm trying to do a similar build in my KFL. Hiw do you get the ekowool in the microcoil? I used a 16ga blunt needle and it's way to small to fit the eko through.

 

[evgeny131]

Hey I'm trying to do a similar build in my KFL. Hiw do you get the ekowool in the microcoil? I used a 16ga blunt needle and it's way to small to fit the eko through.

i have a simple nail...i roll the wire and make the coil around the small nail..about 10 wraps of 28awg gives me 1.1-1.3ohm...(around 2mm diameter)....the ends of ekowool rope are always frayed, i just moisten one of the ends with water (or spit) and pull it through the coil, as you get the end wet pull it together so its tighter.... it fits pretty easy, sometimes takes a few tries but no need for needles or other tools....i use 2mm hollow ekowool because of the rounded diameter- works like a dream....

my suggestion....find something to roll the coil on that is as close as you can get to the diameter of your ekowool...personally i just eyeballed it..good luck

found an old one in the drawer....lol...

 

[Woody7781]

i have a simple nail...i roll the wire and make the coil around the small nail..about 10 wraps of 28awg gives me 1.1-1.3ohm...(around 2mm diameter)....the ends of ekowool rope are always frayed, i just moisten one of the ends with water (or spit) and pull it through the coil, as you get the end wet pull it together so its tighter.... it fits pretty easy, sometimes takes a few tries but no need for needles or other tools....i use 2mm hollow ekowool because of the rounded diameter- works like a dream....

my suggestion....find something to roll the coil on that is as close as you can get to the diameter of your ekowool...personally i just eyeballed it..good luck

found an old one in the drawer....lol...

I guess the diameter of the needle isn't as wide as I need for the 2mm eko. I'll have to find something a bit bigger. My eko is braided so I can't get it to fray at all. Thanks for the help!

 

[BigCypress]

HELP NEEDED!!!

SO for the past couple months or however long I've had the kfl, things have been great.

The last week I feel like I"m struggling to not keep priming every hit. The coil seems like its firing
long after i release the button.

using 27 micro 10 or 11 wraps cotton.

Last week when this was starting I replaced all the orings and seemed to do the trick.
I'm outta fresh rings so I've been swapping them all to see if that helps...

not really helping I guess.

any thoughts?

wick is laid out like qorax.

I've put the cotton next to the holes and on the holes/ all different placement.

 

[BigCypress]

 

[Dusty_D]

What's changed? Are you using different juice? Different wire? wick? Break your process down to the bare essentials.

Why did it work before and not now? Something has got to have changed.. find out what, and you'll have your answer.

I ran into that issue a couple days ago, and it turned out to be a specific juice that I was using. Don't know why.. but it would not wick well.

 

[Rule62]

It looks to me like the ends of your wicks are a little wimpy. They aren't close enough to the juice channels. Use a little more cotton, or else fluff out the ends a little, so that the ends sit over the channels, or at least right next to them.

 

[donnah]

It looks to me like the ends of your wicks are a little wimpy. They aren't close enough to the juice channels. Use a little more cotton, or else fluff out the ends a little, so that the ends sit over the channels, or at least right next to them.

This is exactly what I was going to say. It looks like what mine used to look like back when I had wicking problems. Look at the last couple pics with the chamber on... you can clearly see the juice inlets. Just slide the tails right over the inlets, if they aren't there.. they aren't there to sop up the juice that is pulled up the channels as you take a pull.

 

[Bronze]

This is exactly what I was going to say. It looks like what mine used to look like back when I had wicking problems. Look at the last couple pics with the chamber on... you can clearly see the juice inlets. Just slide the tails right over the inlets, if they aren't there.. they aren't there to sop up the juice that is pulled up the channels as you take a pull.

I always found a good gauge was to make the wick as wide as the Kayfun or a hair more..

 

[Rule62]

I always found a good gauge was to make the wick as wide as the Kayfun or a hair more..

When several of us in this forum, myself included, started building these things with cotton/micro coils a few months ago, we were under the impression that the ends of the cotton wicks had to be kept well away from the juice channels, or they would block off the flow of juice. Many of us eventually found that this wasn't true. The best wicking happens when the cotton is right at, or even over the channels. The juice has to be captured by the cotton as soon as it reaches the top of the shelf, so that it can keep the cotton saturated.

 

[BigCypress]

That was it! all is right in the world again.

For some reason I started using less and less cotton like my nimbus.
Now I got some beefy cotton goin across the deck at the channel.

THanks!

 

[bt3849]

I ran into that issue a couple days ago, and it turned out to be a specific juice that I was using. Don't know why.. but it would not wick well.

I had same problem. Was getting constant dry hits from all the builts I did (Micro/Cotton, Ekowool, Figure 8 Silica) over the course of 1 month. Always thought it was my poor coild building skill or something. The main gears I use are OMEGA RDA dual coils at 0.6ohm on my mech which puts out very good flavor so it wasn't detrimental that I couldn't get my Kayfun/Russian to work. Switched juice recently and it worked immediately. Tried about 4 more new builts with 4 more different juices and all wicked every single time. I didn't even bother with Micro/Cotton or Ekowool and not even figure 8. Just 3mm silica folded once, 6 wraps 28 gague which comes out to 1.1ohm. Worked okay on the mech but works much better on my Provari vaping at 4 volts (sometimes I can get up to 4.1) before E2 error pop up. I was planning to experiment with sub-ohm coils so I can use it on my mech but I'm too scare to. LOL. After 1 month of frustration, I finally locked down a build I can get to work every time so I am not planning to do anything different for a long while. I have 4 provaris collecting dusts anyway, and finally I can put them to good use.

 

[vapdivrr]

It looks to me like the ends of your wicks are a little wimpy. They aren't close enough to the juice channels. Use a little more cotton, or else fluff out the ends a little, so that the ends sit over the channels, or at least right next to them.

although the problem seems to be ok now i was going to say exactly the same thing as rule. the tails need to be slightly denser where they meet the channels. i have best results when the cotton tails kind of go straight down to the channels upon exiting the coil, almost no bending along the bottom. also it is very important that the density of the cotton is equal through its entire length, especially the tails. so many times i see a nice fluffy and dense wick along the top near the coil but then thin out towards the ends of the wick, this is not good.

 

[Bronze]

I guess I've been fortunate. I haven't had any wicking trouble from day one. I learned how to wick the KFL on this thread too.

 

[vapdivrr]

Wrapped again a bit tighter and my count 10 coil on a 1/16 bit reads 821 on my ohm reader
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i mainly use 26g wire but only do between 8 to 9 wraps. what i have found is 8 wraps fit perfectly and 9 is pushing it. what i see in your pic is why i think 10 is to many, for one the coil looks slightly tweaked, because the coil is to large the end coils are separated from the rest. also with this many wraps your coil placement needs to be over the screw heads which imo is to high. when i do micro's in the k-lite i like to attach my wires to the screws on the opposite side, or the inside, you have attached the wire leads to the outside of the screw heads. if the coil is, or has no added tension and all the coils are tight then it doesn't really matter which side the wires are attached to, but in your pic this is definitely adding tension or has tweaked the coil some. what i try to achieve is for my coil length not to exceed the distance between the screw heads, this makes for a perfect coil. i would recommend using a thinner gauge wire for those resistances you are after, if you want the .8 ohms, use 27g wire. or drop down to 8 or 9 wraps with the 26g wire. if doing the lesser wraps just make sure you have experience in builds that low. the resistances at 8 wraps is under .7 ohms, so be careful. i find the best coil height is the bottom of the coil to be slightly under the screw heads, not above them. also with such a thick wire,26g, that's a lot of wire to heat. actually after looking a little closer it does look like your coil is not as high as i thought before, so maybe that's good, still i do think its to many wraps for 26g wire because of the added tension and heat up time of the coil. anyways if it works for you and it performs well that's all that matters and stay with it. thanks and good luck