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would anybody here recommend a diver over a kayfun 3.1 or kayfun lite


Thats a hard comparison as they are two totally different devices. The Diver fulfills one vape desire, and the Kayfun fulfills another. Personally, if I had to choose between the two, it would be the Kayfun all the way. I favor both the 3.1 and the Lite, and sometimes I favor the Lite just a tad more ;)
 

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Thats a hard comparison as they are two totally different devices. The Diver fulfills one vape desire, and the Kayfun fulfills another. Personally, if I had to choose between the two, it would be the Kayfun all the way. I favor both the 3.1 and the Lite, and sometimes I favor the Lite just a tad more ;)

^Very very well said :thumbs:

My point/s, just to add if I may:
1) If you have a Kayfun -- you don't need to look elsewhere, this is as best as it gets!
2) If you have a 'gr8 carto-tank' lying around -- skip the regular cartos and fetch a carto-RBA!
3) If you must get a carto-RBA -- avoid the Diver* and get a Sophiaº &/or a Killer (in that order)!
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*However best you set it up - the Diver will LEAK. Sometimes, if not regularly. Especially overnight:)
ºThe best carto-RBA is the Sophia... both, in design and ease of build / maintenance
 

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Expect pics of my KFL on my Neme with the FusionsMods hybrid adapter officially installed soon! Managed to snag a pair of adapters on the resent run of adapters. Had an issue with paying fast enough but Tod hooked me up with brass adapters from a batch he had extra laying around unserialized and he sent em out for me. So I'm getting a pair of beta LE adapters.

Woot!

In other news, I was vaping away at my Big Willie's Custard + MBV Dutch Apple Pie mix juice for 4 days straight on my 1ohm mesh style wick 4 standard wrap build and I remembered I had a modded EVOD with a 1.6ohm Micro + Cotton setup still loaded with the same juice and I noticed the custard flavor was muted on my KFL. Opened it up and it had a ball of crusty black gunk around my coil after running 6 tanks through it. It dawned on me that I was running this custard on my KFL only with the mesh wick since I tried it on it. I whent back to a 1.6ohm 30awg 7wrap 2mm outter diameter micro coil with straight cotton through it like when I first built it and lo and behold the custard came to life with aplomb!

So this was my first hand experience of actually noticing what different wicks do to different juices flavor-wise.

I also noticed the heat of the vape on this 1.6ohm micro is just as good as the 1ohm standard wrap I was running on the mesh wick build and the higher resistance fires with less voltage drop on my ....ty EFest batteries. Gonna have to get AW 18350's amd 18500's and maybe a pair of Sony or Panasonic 18650's. But I promise to get a 2nd KFL first. :p

no doubt that certain wicks effects certain flavors differently. one of my favorite juices has been kona crème from COV. this was may adv when I was vaping the porous ceramic wicks some time ago. when I started the micro & cotton, little by little I wasn't into it as much and a couple of weeks ago I stopped vaping it completely. well I have been running a ceramic wick in my k-lite for the last 2 days and decided to try the kona again and loving it. this juice is great with ceramic but not so great with cotton. so up until an hour ago I thought I was done with the cotton in the k-lite because the ceramic was providing a better flavor then the cotton but then something happened and the flavor dropped big time. I opened it up and it looked fine. what it is, is the ceramic loosened slightly from the coil. when this happens the flavor basically goes away. usually the wire wraps need to be melted onto the wick, we call this hot wrapping, well I didn't do this for I thought I had an alternative. my alternative was to make a 5/64 micro and screw a 3/32 ceramic wick into it. it worked and was real tight but after a couple of days the heat must of slightly smoothed out the wick, thus loosing contact. so im back to cotton for the time being. next time I will hot wrap instead. ceramic is a pain, and is a lot trickier to set up then cotton, but if you spend the time and get it right it is the best.
 

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WTA and NETs are both extractions but they are entirley two different extraction process that extract different elements of the tobacco. I am no expert on WTA but NET is a simple extraction process where the tobacco leaves are allowed to soak in a liquid (usually PG, VG, or alcohol) and then the juice is filtered. WTA is far more involved.

so is the nic content the same as regular juices? or higher because of the extracts? also does the taste or smell tend to linger in a tank if you just ran a tank dry and refilled with a different juice?
 

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so is the nic content the same as regular juices? or higher because of the extracts? also does the taste or smell tend to linger in a tank if you just ran a tank dry and refilled with a different juice?

The nic is the same but it also has alkaloids from the tobacco. Feels more like a cig then just nicotine.

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Just posted this to someone on Facebook... thought of sharing it here:

WHY MICROCOIL & COTTON?
1. Get larger surface area, thus warmer vape & higher vapor production.
2. Easy to build. Pre-coiled, terminalled and just passed a length of cotton.
3. Easy to maintain. Just dry-burn and replace the wick.
4. Lasts longer. The coil could remain intact for months, replacing only the wick after 3-4 tanks.
5. Availability. Wow, you have a lifetime supply of your wick always ready at home.
6. FLAVOR JUNKIE. You get better taste in both, Inhale as well as Exhale.
7. Avoids leakage. Cotton is capable of wicking and 'holding' liquids better.
8. Avoids gurgling. Even if you happen to flood it - it might not easily gurgle.
9. Avoids 'spitfires'. Ref. point-7 above -- it might thus not throw juice at you.
10. Easy to re-wick. There's a peace of mind in it;)
 

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Just posted this to someone on Facebook... thought of sharing it here:

WHY MICROCOIL & COTTON?
1. Get larger surface area, thus warmer vape & higher vapor production.
2. Easy to build. Pre-coiled, terminalled and just passed a length of cotton.
3. Easy to maintain. Just dry-burn and replace the wick.
4. Lasts longer. The coil could remain intact for months, replacing only the wick after 3-4 tanks.
5. Availability. Wow, you have a lifetime supply of your wick always ready at home.
6. FLAVOR JUNKIE. You get better taste in both, Inhale as well as Exhale.
7. Avoids leakage. Cotton is capable of wicking and 'holding' liquids better.
8. Avoids gurgling. Even if you happen to flood it - it might not easily gurgle.
9. Avoids 'spitfires'. Ref. point-7 above -- it might thus not throw juice at you.
10. Easy to re-wick. There's a peace of mind in it;)

Thanks Q. I'm actually going to attempt a micro for my next build. 16ga needle and 28ga kanthal. Hopefully it turns out nice. Gonna follow divrr's tutorial
 

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Just posted this to someone on Facebook... thought of sharing it here:

WHY MICROCOIL & COTTON?
1. Get larger surface area, thus warmer vape & higher vapor production.
2. Easy to build. Pre-coiled, terminalled and just passed a length of cotton.
3. Easy to maintain. Just dry-burn and replace the wick.
4. Lasts longer. The coil could remain intact for months, replacing only the wick after 3-4 tanks.
5. Availability. Wow, you have a lifetime supply of your wick always ready at home.
6. FLAVOR JUNKIE. You get better taste in both, Inhale as well as Exhale.
7. Avoids leakage. Cotton is capable of wicking and 'holding' liquids better.
8. Avoids gurgling. Even if you happen to flood it - it might not easily gurgle.
9. Avoids 'spitfires'. Ref. point-7 above -- it might thus not throw juice at you.
10. Easy to re-wick. There's a peace of mind in it;)

qorax, great points for sure, and I agree with them all. there is another that may be added. for me I feel the cotton delivers nic better then other wicks. I seem to be more satisfied when vaping a micro& cotton set-up compared to others. I used a ceramic wick in the k-lite for a couple days and although the flavor was better imo, I wasn't as satisfied nic wise. same when I vape an occasional genny set-up with mesh, (which isn't much anymore), although I still enjoy the mesh and standard wraps, I just seem to get more nic delivery with my micro set ups. maybe its the heat or TH and not the nic, but imo it is.
 

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qorax, great points for sure, and I agree with them all. there is another that may be added. for me I feel the cotton delivers nic better then other wicks. I seem to be more satisfied when vaping a micro& cotton set-up compared to others. I used a ceramic wick in the k-lite for a couple days and although the flavor was better imo, I wasn't as satisfied nic wise. same when I vape an occasional genny set-up with mesh, (which isn't much anymore), although I still enjoy the mesh and standard wraps, I just seem to get more nic delivery with my micro set ups. maybe its the heat or TH and not the nic, but imo it is.

^True. One 100% true. I felt the same too all along
 

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Order a Kayfun Lite tonight. I have been looking for a good rebuildable for a while. It came down to the Kayfun Lite and the Russian 91%. After looking at many reviews which stated the two were about the same as far as how well they worked, but the reviews all said the Kayfun was a much better built item. The spare parts are easier to find for the Kayfun Lite also. I ordered different sizes of wire for coils and silica for wicks and picked up some organic cotton from CVS today. Now the wait begins for it all to arrive so I can start to play with it. Hopefully it will work better than my Protanks. I will probably need much info and help to get it setup correctly.
 
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