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Hi guys. I need some help in my build. My first attempt I think my wick is too little because its gurgly. My second attempt I think I put too much wick because I'm having a burnt taste. I just want to run my build by you guys. Is my wick enough? Too little? Too much?

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that is waay too much cotton, you probably need about half that amount
 

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its funny, the other day I seen the link to the aqua video, at first I didn't recognize rick because he cut all his hair. anyways I was interested and kept watching. I remember him saying it was going to be a while before this atty was going to ship and that pre orders were going to start. I payed the cash and yesterday got an email stating that the package was already shipped, way cool!
 

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So, I've gotta give even more props to VapeDivr again for this video. I finally went cotton and got it working perfectly. Don't think I'll be using Silica again. The key to this whole thing is making sure the end of your wicks don't extend down into the channels where the threads start. So far it's been working great for me and haven't had a dry hit. If your wicks are too long and go into the channels, it will eventually go dry.

Also, he says it in the video, but I want to stress that your hands have to be cleaned before you roll the cotton. It will take on even the lightest scent on your hands, so keep that in mind.

I have not been able to find, or least a confirmed 5/64th drill bit or 16g (2mm thick) syringe tip) around, and might have to just go buy one. I did find a nail that was twice as thick as my Zap syringe tip that I used. My coils are now reading 2.2 on my Provari, which I'm not sure is good. I believe that I might have 11 wraps though instead of 10 with 30g kanthal from LightningVapes. Any thoughts on that? It's been working fine, so I don't wanna mess with it unless you guys see this as a big problem?

16g blunt tip needle is about 1.6mm, its a lot closer to 1/16 then 5/64th's. I know in all actuality there is not to much of a difference between the 16g and 5/64 but there is. whenever I have tried a 5/64 size it seems huge compared to 16g or 1/16. actually I just measured the 16g needle, it measures 1.67 to 1.7 mm
 
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ok now i'm having harsh hits. my first build was fine for a couple of refills, then got bad. just recoiled and i have the coil about 1mm above the airhole, and have enough cotton to just reach the channels. i don't think the wick was too thick for the coil either. any other advice? :(

I don't think its a cut & dry fix. I think it depends on individual situations. in the end it has to be done by trial & error. first is to know that you have a great coil going. the coil needs to glow properly from the center out, cant have any really loose coils(especially the ends, cannot be touching any metal, the ends need to be clipped close or be not touching the chimney, no coils overlapped, and be the proper distance above the air hole. once this is good(which im sure in your case it is) then its the wick, but like I said it could be slightly different to someone elses maybe. what may work perfect for someone may not work the same as you. these factors may include juice, weather temp, vaping style, resistance, etc. all I can say is there are a few possibilities when it comes to the wick and wicking. one could be the type of cotton used, also wick density, wick length, wick thickness, and wick placement. in the end these are rebuildables and like many other rebuildables they do take time to find the correct balance. some may find this very quickly just by possible luck or there actual conditions matched the conditions to the set up they fashioned it after. others it seemed, have taken more time to get right because of possible different factors involved. everyone here is here to help and by reading info does help but I do think in the end it could possibly take different combinations to get the device working . maybe a thinner and shorter wick might help, or a thicker longer wick, or a thinner longer wick. the important thing is to remember what is in the device at all times so when it finally is it, you can replicate it.
 
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that is waay too much cotton, you probably need about half that amount

that wick looks like its been electrocuted. I never thought that it might be possible to block off the juice channels but with that wick im not so sure, coil looks nice though, I think. there is a coil in there right? hard to see between all that cotton. sorry bro, don't mean to make fun, just having a laugh. anyways, yes, to much cotton for sure.
 

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It seems like organic cotton is more difficult to get it right (too dense and you def set yourself for a dry hits experience). It might be the sterilised one is less temperamental? (Based on what I've seen so far, I personally use the organic)

I had some cheesecloth around, I tried a wick and it's working good, easy to thread in and easier to get it the right amount. It's also easy to replicate as you can just count the number of threads you are folding over

But what the experts say about cheesecloth? Any particular reason it hasn't been used no more after some time it used to be the trend? I guess cotton balls is better? I can't seem to detect any lack of flavour with it, but haven't experienced enough for saying. Maybe you are struggling with density and cotton balls (dry hits etc), give it a go if you have some cheesecloth

..unless you are just waiting for getting your hands on that degummed hemp fiber lol

good point on the cc. I have a bunch still left over from when I used it with ceramic wicks. I have tried it a while back and didn't really find it no different to the cotton. the taste seemed about the same although for me I felt like it didn't wick quite as well. tbh, I didn't mess with it to much to really find the correct amount to use, im sure if I made a few more builds I could of figured it out. its just at that point I had a feel for the cotton so I just stayed with it. maybe I will give it more time, I would be nice to know the exact amounts like you said. but also like you said, I do think there is a new kid on the block with the hemp fibers.
 

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that wick looks like its been electrocuted. I never thought that it might be possible to block off the juice channels but with that wick im not so sure, coil looks nice though, I think. there is a coil in there right? hard to see between all that cotton. sorry bro, don't mean to make fun, just having a laugh. anyways, yes, to much cotton for sure.

ha, I kinda thought it looked like Einstein's hair :) but seriously yeah, don't know how probable it may be to block the wicking on the full sized kayfuns, but with the mini at least I think this is very possible, to use so much cotton that it blocks off the juice channels :)
 

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ha, I kinda thought it looked like Einstein's hair :) but seriously yeah, don't know how probable it may be to block the wicking on the full sized kayfuns, but with the mini at least I think this is very possible, to use so much cotton that it blocks off the juice channels :)

actually hair is what I really was thinking about at first. maybe 70's fro? or that lady in the top 12 on x-factor. my wife watches that not me,lol, but I couldn't miss that hair that lady has.
 

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actually hair is what I really was thinking about at first. maybe 70's fro? or that lady in the top 12 on x-factor. my wife watches that not me,lol, but I couldn't miss that hair that lady has.

LOL!
Now that you mention it also reminded me of Gilda Radner's hair except for the color


I also agree too much cotton.
 

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its funny, the other day I seen the link to the aqua video, at first I didn't recognize rick because he cut all his hair. anyways I was interested and kept watching. I remember him saying it was going to be a while before this atty was going to ship and that pre orders were going to start. I payed the cash and yesterday got an email stating that the package was already shipped, way cool!
Mine is on the way
I got it from here: http://localvape.com/collections/footoon/products/footoon-aqua-atomizer
 
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Ok, I've made many microcoils with cotton, and 95% of the time they work great. However, whenever I take a long drag (+5 sec), I get a burnt taste... Now, I know what burnt cotton tastes like, but usually still have a somewhat of a full tank which doesn't allow for me to inspect my wick until I know I'm running low. Most of the time, the burnt flavor goes away after a few vapes. When I finally decide to change flavors (ie, wicks), I notice only minimal "scaring" on the cotton. Obviously, I've burnt the cotton at some point, but why does it go away? ...Ultimately, I wanna keep that 'sheet' white....

Does anyone know what's going on?
 
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Ok, I've made many microcoils with cotton, and 95% of the time they work great. However, whenever I take a long drag (+5 sec), I get a burnt taste... Now, I know what burnt cotton tastes like, but usually still have a somewhat of a full tank which doesn't allow for me to inspect my wick until I know I'm running low. Most of the time, the burnt flavor goes away after a few vapes. When I finally decide to change flavors (ie, wicks), I notice only minimal "scaring" on the cotton. Obviously, I've burnt the cotton at some point, but why does it go away? ...Ultimately, I wanna keep that 'sheet' white....

Does anyone know what's going on?

Yes, try less dense cotton

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Ok, I've made many microcoils with cotton, and 95% of the time they work great. However, whenever I take a long drag (+5 sec), I get a burnt taste... Now, I know what burnt cotton tastes like, but usually still have a somewhat of a full tank which doesn't allow for me to inspect my wick until I know I'm running low. Most of the time, the burnt flavor goes away after a few vapes. When I finally decide to change flavors (ie, wicks), I notice only minimal "scaring" on the cotton. Obviously, I've burnt the cotton at some point, but why does it go away? ...Ultimately, I wanna keep that 'sheet' white....

Does anyone know what's going on?

It seems like you are not burning your cotton but getting dry hits witch may taste like burning and if they are bad enough they WILL end up burning your cotton and messing it up until you re-wick it. If it comes and goes you are getting an occasional dry hits. To fix this do three things:

1. Make sure that your cotton is not rolled up super tight. It needs to be fluffy on the tails, the fluff that you lay over the deck should be about as tall as the terminal posts.
2. Make sure the bit of cotton that is actually inside your coil wraps isn't overly tight. If you have to twist at it to much to force it through its to much. I feed mine by twisting on it as I pull it through but once its through I'm able to pull it back and forth with some resistance. This is the trickiest part and you'll get it with practice. I can't be so tight that just pulling on it will move the coil around but it can't be so loose that you can just pull the cotton out without moving the coil. There needs to be some resistance to it enough so that you can pull on the cotton gently and that it feels tight but not stuck to the coil wraps.
3. Lay the cotton tail puffs over the entire deck, don't be afraid of covering the juice channels, just make sure they don't get plugged shut when you screw the chamber in. There HAS to be cotton over the juice channels to catch the juice as it tries to enter the chamber. If you don't you'll keep vaping until the cotton dries out a little and you get a dry it with burned flavor. A properly laid cotton tail will keep the entire cotton wick nice and juicy at all times.

Also note that blackened cotton does not necessarily mean burnt cotton. My cotton wicks look black and tarnished after a few days of use. With some flavorings it looks encrusted in black gunk, with some its only right around the coils. This does NOT matter one bit. If it tastes good, keep vaping on it. I only change my wick when I notice that he flavor is off, usually about 5 - 6 tank fills with the juices I've used the most or if I change flavors of course.

Finally you don't need a syringe to empty our your tank if you need to work with the coils. The usual plastic nipple tip on most bottles seals right up on the screw hole of the fill port. I just take out my screw, keep the device with the fill port facing up, grab my juice bottle and squeeze the air out of it, press it against the hole, flip the device while keeping pressure between the bottle and the fill port and start letting the bottle expand sucking your juice out of the tank. Usually 2 or 3 tries of this will get 95% of my juice out of the tank. Then I set the tank over some paper towels, wipe the base, chamber and chimney with some paper towels, open it up, fix it, put it back together and put my juice back in.
 
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i know this is not the right thread....but all the vets here have helped so much i wanted your advice...
rebuilt using .5 ribbon....3wraps per coil...two coils sharing 1 strand of 3mm threaded eko....
Trident RBA.....0.3ohm...
anyone have recommendations for batteries that have a 20amp rating?
this is hitting 14 amps @ 4.2 volts, under load, not sure....I know the AW is good up to 10....Will a better battery make a difference???
Seems like the voltage drops really quickly, using an AW 18650 currently
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    i know this is not the right thread....but all the vets here have helped so much i wanted your advice...
    rebuilt using .5 ribbon....3wraps per coil...two coils sharing 1 strand of 3mm threaded eko....
    Trident RBA.....0.3ohm...
    anyone have recommendations for batteries that have a 20amp rating?
    this is hitting 14 amps @ 4.2 volts, under load, not sure....I know the AW is good up to 10....Will a better battery make a difference???
    Seems like the voltage drops really quickly, using an AW 18650 currently
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    I like this set up... SUB OHM!! Pixs look nice. I would look for the orb battery.. 18650 30a safe.
    Amazon.com: Smart Li-ion 4 Channels Battery Charger and FOUR 3100mAh Panasonic 18650 Lithium-ion Batteries Charging Kit: Electronics
    The ORB batterys are on my purchase when i can list. I use cgr 18650 batteries = 2 Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li on 18650 Battery 2250mAh New | eBay In my .4 ohm dripper.
    I hope you have a great weekend.
     

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    I like this set up... SUB OHM!! Pixs look nice. I would look for the orb battery.. 18650 30a safe.
    Amazon.com: Smart Li-ion 4 Channels Battery Charger and FOUR 3100mAh Panasonic 18650 Lithium-ion Batteries Charging Kit: Electronics
    The ORB batterys are on my purchase when i can list. I use cgr 18650 batteries = 2 Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li on 18650 Battery 2250mAh New | eBay In my .4 ohm dripper.
    I hope you have a great weekend.

    thanks......so far the aw is not getting hot...time to buy better batts anyways....especially for this set up.....im liking it enough to keep it for a while.....
     
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