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evgeny131

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i could not resist putting up this pic....today's choices...
Poldiac Full Satin 18350 + kayfun Lite + SQuape DT,
Nemesis Kalafan 18500(no brushed mid-ring) + kayfun 3.1ES Delta + Atmomixani Mini Me Ice DT
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....a bit of vaping heaven...
 

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Very nice! Out of curiosity does the KFL have to be kept upright or can it be laid down on it's side?

it can be laid on the side not for hours though...depends on liquid level...if one of the juice channels is exposed from the tank being sideways for too long it will start to leak, but for the most part it does not leak and can be put in any pocket...
 

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LOL! Your wife wont know where to start either. But my guess is she'll want to end it with you in a body cast. :)

Why do I think you'll see your wife in some new outfits and shoes next week?

I bought her a new Coach Hand Bag and Wallet last month. I think I'm in the clear. Also we have separate accounts, as long as the bills get paid and there enough to put into our joint savings and eat at a nice restaurant once a month I don't get any flak from her.
 

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So i just tried a vertical coil build and I'm really liking the flavor and overall performance out of it! The warmth is just like my dual coil 0.8ohn build and I feel the flavor is more intense.

Having one issue though, plenty of juice droplets are jumping at my tongue. Its not gurgling though? Should I compress the cotton a little more?
 

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im either going to have the best wicking k-lite around or a ruined one. I really like the idea of the wick tails being inserted down the sides of the aqua tank(which I recently purchased) so have decided to mod my k-lite to match. I have taken a 3/32 drill bit and am grooving a channel to accommodate the wick tails just like in the aqua. actually there is a slight vertical groove already in the k-lite, im just enlarging these. as you know these existing channels in the k-lite aren't for the wick tails but just for the juice to rise into. anyways I should have it done by tomorrow. I don't have a drill press so its slow going because you kind of need to just bore this channel by using the side of the drill bit, its working but its slow for sure. will let you know. so when its done the wick tails will come off the coil and straight down into the grooves and all the way down to the o-ring on base. so you will place the tails down this channel and then screw the chimney over these tails just like in the aqua tank. in the aqua there is a juice control that works fine when screwed all the way down, if you want more juice the control just makes the chimney thread up. so by following this design, I should be able to pre distance the k-lites chimney to a desired distance away from the base. my k-lite works perfectly at resistances above .8, but when I do below that I feel like it could use more juice, hopefully this will get me that. if not there will be a great deal on a k-lite in the classy's tomorrow.
 

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so, as I've shown here a few days ago, I opened up my feed channels slightly. from the many builds I've done on my kayfun 3.1 I've always felt that the juice delivery was a little lacking once the power level was raised, and to use it at 15 watts required extra effort regularly on my part to avoid dry hits. I've always had to compensate and it hasn't really been as auto feeding as I would have liked. it did feed enough to vape it at ~10 watts or less no problem though, and even at 10-11 watts it was a great feed but not as great of a vape. crank up the power and the vape improved but the feed started to lag. in contrast, my kayfun mini seems to feed a bit better and I wouldn't think the need to ever screw with the mini, it feeds well up to and even over 15 watts. actually my mini is the best atty I've ever used, making the full sized 3.1 just a little lacking in comparison, which is why I decided to play with the channels here. I have seen others say too that the mini edges out even the full sized kayfuns too, and having both I do agree.

opening up the feed is in effect very much like rejetting a carb, well opening the channels a bit has really made a difference in the feed, it now feeds easier. before, to take a primer puff I'd have to pull hard and get a few tiny bubbles raise up, after the mod I can take a less hard pull and get larger bubbles to come up with less effort.

after the mod when I built it the way I always have it winded up feeding too much, I went from being slightly under fed to now being over fed so I altered my build to suit the new setup.

second attempt I tried a little extra puff of hemp in the 2 side chambers and this proved to be too much reduction which brought me back to less feed and dry hits, so third build I decided on keeping the hemp wick but then using cotton for the extra puff in the sides and this has seemed to do it, been using this same build for 2 days now and it is working great, no dry hits at all ever, if I draw too much or too hard I can get it to oversaturate a bit still and even flood, but taking it easy it just feeds great at 15 watts and I'm getting really nice fully saturated vapes continuously, def not sorry I tried this, although honestly I think I did wind up going just a wee bit too much, now I have to adjust the flow with the build which isn't such a bad thing really

so with this modification it winds up now being adjustable feed, adjusted by the amount of extra cotton puff in the sides. if no extra cotton is used then it feeds too much but with the right amount of fill it is great and with too much fill it goes back to not feeding enough. from what I've been seeing I think that hemp winds up being a bit denser than cotton when saturated so hemp winds up blocking it a bit too much but then again this is only my first good build on this new setup so I'm sure after a few builds I'll get a feel for what's needed just as I originally did when it was stock.

I'm not going to go out and recommend anyone else really should go out and do this, and from experience now I can def say that a little goes a long way when it comes to opening the channels if you did decide to go that route. I have taken measurements and next time I open it up I'll confirm exactly how much material I winded up removing, but it is in and around the 10 thousandths range give or take a bit I think, i'll post exact when I confirm exact.

now with this setup I'm sure that this atty will work well at 20 watts and even more, it now comes down to how much extra cotton is stuffed in the 2 side chambers, it really now is adjustable, eventually I'll try her at higher wattage but right now I have it all set up with the collector tank to fit the semovar as a hybrid type fit so I can't just pop it onto a different mod atm, but I'll try a nice sub ohm high watt build in this thing soon enough, and now I know that it can def be built to keep up wicking at higher power levels. then, once I re establish a firm baseline here with my standard wicking I'll revisit my original vertical coils building again with the hemp and an extension for the long leg... who woulda thunk, hotrodding the kayfun is pretty cool :oops:


my bottom line, the kayfun has always been a little fiddly when trying to run higher power levels and almost invariably had trouble keeping up with wicking at high power levels no matter how I built it and always needed extra efforts to feed it to avoid dry hits, now it doesn't, and now it can be built to give even more feed than needed, so now it just simply comes down to building it "right" for it's new calibration. I also will try building it like the hydra as gdeal did tried in the hemp thread, quoted below. it didn't work out for him because the channels were too restrictive, but now, with this mod it might prove to be good like that too :)

hey buddy glad to hear the mods went well. I also think the lite can use a little more juice for higher power. its funny today I started to moddle my lite to match the design of my aqua and seen that gdeal tried to just use the existing klites channels, he stated their to restrictive. I one the other hand never even thought of just using the existing channels, just because I have an aqua and know how big they are, this made me route the side channels out so I can get a proper size wick tail inserted. I have them about half way at the moment. should be done tomorrow and will let you know the results.
 

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gotta say that mine is working awesome this whole week, kayfun never hit like this before, I now take a nice long drags with softer draws and just get huge thick vapor at higher watts consistently, really woke up my kayfun. in my experience after trying a lot of different build setups, stock they just can't keep up with the wicking at higher power, at low power levels they wick awesome and are truly an automatic feed, now it wicks awesome at high power levels and really is an auto feeding vaping machine, I fog out my whole windshield now with the kayfun, never did that before :) really liking this mod, good luck with yours, def want to see pics, are you saying that your going much larger to accommodate a through wick?
 

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@vapdivrr - From a visual inspection, in the stock KFL that I filled the grooves with wick, it looked like the the wick would be compressed by about 50-75%. (Of course this depends upon the ID of the coil and the size wick being used). I needed to thin my wick at the tail in grooves to make it fit.

So since the channels are only really in a half-moon shape, will a 3/32 bit do the job?. BTW Do you know the channel radius of the Aqua?

@turbocad6 - Did you post measurements yet?
 

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Does anyone have any experience getting the KFL + from Cloud 9 in the U.K.? Do any US Venders have them in stock?

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~C9 is tad pricier than anywhere else.
~It takes a week++ to receive it this side of the pond.
~C9 includes everything possible in the package√
~Keith & Lisa, the owners of C9, are very sweet folks.
 

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Does anyone have any experience getting the KFL + from Cloud 9 in the U.K.? Do any US Venders have them in stock?

Chas

I order mine from InTaste.de, shipped on monday and received the notice from customs that my package is here today but i have to pay taxes...other than my government trying to get money from me i can recommend intaste 100%
 
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