Kayfun LITE

[Ben C.]

When you first posted this image, like 200 pages back? I just liked the way it looked, so once I got mine, I build my coils just like yours. I have never had a reason to change it, wicks good, tastes good, don't fix what is not broken.

HA!! I know - it actually seems like a long time ago as well, even though it was only a couple (or a few?) months ago. It's funny, after making this build basically by chance and intuition, I haven't changed a thing either - I think we both have the same "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality . Glad it works for you too! Here's my build on a KFL+ this past weekend... same thing... and still loving it!

 

[aziffel]

I tried filling the kayfun from the top since I cant use my fill hole anymore and i get a lot of flooding.
I fill it plugging the air hole with my finger close the top and unplug the hole. Am i doing something wrong?

Are you turning the kayfun upside down before you release the air hole ?That way air gets pushed thru the juice channels instead of juice.

 

[nttdemented]

One little draw back of lowering my cotton density the past few days...

I've managed to make both of my KF's flood and leak after a few days. It seems that movement when getting thrown around all day in my bag and pocket likes to make the cotton tails stand up above the deck making it flood easily. Both times it happened I opened the chamber to find one tail up in the air and the other on the deck where it's supposed to be.

Other than that they have been running FLAWLESSLY with my current builds and power settings (28awg 7 wraps over a 5/64" drill bit, 1.1ohms) run one on straight mechanical and the other on a Kick2 at 15 watts, switch them around during the day to play with the flavor using the power settings on the Kick2.

 

[armyofskittles]

One little draw back of lowering my cotton density the past few days...

I've managed to make both of my KF's flood and leak after a few days. It seems that movement when getting thrown around all day in my bag and pocket likes to make the cotton tails stand up above the deck making it flood easily. Both times it happened I opened the chamber to find one tail up in the air and the other on the deck where it's supposed to be.

Other than that they have been running FLAWLESSLY with my current builds and power settings (28awg 7 wraps over a 5/64" drill bit, 1.1ohms) run one on straight mechanical and the other on a Kick2 at 15 watts, switch them around during the day to play with the flavor using the power settings on the Kick2.

Your coil might be too close to your air hole, try raising it higher. That's the prolem I was having when I finally got mine wicking properly

-Sent from outer space using DNA20 and Kayfun Lite

 

[Snapdragon]

i suggest you try less cotton, less is more you should feel very little resistance when threading it through the coil.

I'm amazed at how much of a difference that made. I didn't think I was using that much cotton but I rewicked last night with about a third less than I originally had and the increase in vapour production (which was pretty great before) is substantial. Now I can't taste the cotton at all and the flavour is 'juicier'.

Thanks nelsonm64!

ETS: It hung out in my purse through 4.5 hours of Christmas shopping - no flooding.

 

[nttdemented]

Your coil might be too close to your air hole, try raising it higher. That's the prolem I was having when I finally got mine wicking properly

-Sent from outer space using DNA20 and Kayfun Lite

Its sitting almost a full 2mm from the air hole. When I rewicked last night I just added a tiny bit of cotton on top of the tails after I pit the chamber on. Still working perfectly vape-wise. I'll see how they hold up after a few days of use.

 

[nelsonm64]

I'm amazed at how much of a difference that made. I didn't think I was using that much cotton but I rewicked last night with about a third less than I originally had and the increase in vapour production (which was pretty great before) is substantial. Now I can't taste the cotton at all and the flavour is 'juicier'.

Thanks nelsonm64!

ETS: It hung out in my purse through 4.5 hours of Christmas shopping - no flooding.

hey that's great it worked out for you! and a sucessfull xmas shopping trip ta boot, win, win situation!

 

[EddardinWinter]

When you first posted this image, like 200 pages back? I just liked the way it looked, so once I got mine, I build my coils just like yours. I have never had a reason to change it, wicks good, tastes good, don't fix what is not broken.

Forgive me for saying this fellas...but.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? That sort of thinking would still have us using Protanks or some dreadful other clearo, carto, etc...

 

[Dusty_D]

Forgive me for saying this fellas...but.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? That sort of thinking would still have us using Protanks or some dreadful other clearo, carto, etc...

Those never worked right, which is what led to newer innovations. The Kayfun with a basic micro-coil and cotton build is pure genius and just works.

Will that stop others from experimenting and coming up with better solutions? No.. it won't.

When you look at the basic premise of "learn to walk, before you run", that advice makes perfect sense. It's just folks jumping the gun and attempting dual, quad, mundys magic etc etc before they can figure out a basic coil setup 100% of the time, that this advice does not apply to. Example: I would not ask a user with a single KFL to experiment with their juice feed channels or air intake port. If they mess it up, they are without a resource to fall back on. If you have two or three, go ahead and experiment all you want, because you can always fall back on your spares in the event of a mess up.

I think that the advice is sound, in principal. It's good to have a solid back-up plan and then allow room for experimentation for future innovation.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Those never worked right, which is what led to newer innovations. The Kayfun with a basic micro-coil and cotton build is pure genius and just works.

Will that stop others from experimenting and coming up with better solutions? No.. it won't.

When you look at the basic premise of "learn to walk, before you run", that advice makes perfect sense. It's just folks jumping the gun and attempting dual, quad, mundys magic etc etc before they can figure out a basic coil setup 100% of the time, that this advice does not apply to. Example: I would not ask a user with a single KFL to experiment with their juice feed channels or air intake port. If they mess it up, they are without a resource to fall back on. If you have two or three, go ahead and experiment all you want, because you can always fall back on your spares in the event of a mess up.

I think that the advice is sound, in principal. It's good to have a solid back-up plan and then allow room for experimentation for future innovation.

Thanks for that very precise clarification, Maestro.

 

[IzzyForeal]

New to KFL.........Has anyone else had to drop their Nic level when using a KFL? I normally use 12mg in Genny's and 6 mg in Drippers but most of my 12mg juice is a little too harsh, too much throat hit. I know some of it depends on the juice becasue a few of my 12mg juice are perfect but most of them are just too strong for me in the KFL. I am going to try 9 mg.

 

[TruSound]

Even if it ain't broke, doesn't mean it can't be better...and as far as clearos being dreadful, they worked well enough to keep me off cigarettes for 2.5 years, and the new Aspire BDC clearos are an outstanding performer.

Last couple days I've been using KFL+ 1.5mm micro builds with both .5x1mm and .8x1mm Kanthal ribbon, for me this flat wire produces better everything...better than the if it ain't broke standard Kanthal build.

 

[bigmaaark]

New to KFL.........Has anyone else had to drop their Nic level when using a KFL? I normally use 12mg in Genny's and 6 mg in Drippers but most of my 12mg juice is a little too harsh, too much throat hit. I know some of it depends on the juice becasue a few of my 12mg juice are perfect but most of them are just too strong for me in the KFL. I am going to try 9 mg.

I started vaping at 6mg but in desperation i bought a small bottle of 12mg liquid and man i was taking baby hits! couldnt take it. since then i have been afraid of giong over 6mg. so i know what you mean lol

 

[thereklis1]

Have yet to try any of the Kayfuns. Looks good and easy to set up. Any idea on pricing? Cloud9 is still open just a couple days a week, I see. Already sold out?

There are a few good clones out there, too. Now for the life of me I can't remember the brand I have. Arg!

 

[BigCypress]

I started vaping at 6mg but in desperation i bought a small bottle of 12mg liquid and man i was taking baby hits! couldnt take it. since then i have been afraid of giong over 6mg. so i know what you mean lol

wow you must of had quite a cigarette habit.

 

[mekc57]

I have used 12 nic from evod, pro tank through KFL and R91. Sure I get a better vape but not to harsh for me.

 

[folkphys]

New to KFL.........Has anyone else had to drop their Nic level when using a KFL? I normally use 12mg in Genny's and 6 mg in Drippers but most of my 12mg juice is a little too harsh, too much throat hit. I know some of it depends on the juice becasue a few of my 12mg juice are perfect but most of them are just too strong for me in the KFL. I am going to try 9 mg.

This was my experience exactly. At first I thought it was a coil height (clearance above air hole) issue, but even with the coil hanging only like a ball-hair's-width above the tube I was still coughing. Switched from 12mg to 6mg, and all is right with the world again. Plus, I'm now half as unlikely to OD on nicotine from all the idleness induced chain vaping.

 

[turbocad6]

Those never worked right, which is what led to newer innovations. The Kayfun with a basic micro-coil and cotton build is pure genius and just works.

Will that stop others from experimenting and coming up with better solutions? No.. it won't.

When you look at the basic premise of "learn to walk, before you run", that advice makes perfect sense. It's just folks jumping the gun and attempting dual, quad, mundys magic etc etc before they can figure out a basic coil setup 100% of the time, that this advice does not apply to. Example: I would not ask a user with a single KFL to experiment with their juice feed channels or air intake port. If they mess it up, they are without a resource to fall back on. If you have two or three, go ahead and experiment all you want, because you can always fall back on your spares in the event of a mess up.

I think that the advice is sound, in principal. It's good to have a solid back-up plan and then allow room for experimentation for future innovation.

this I agree with 100%, I would never encourage anyone to take tools to their kayfun and I made sure to put a disclaimer that this is ONLY for those who have already mastered their build and just want to calibrate it for a little more flow, this is NOT to fix a flaw or solve any problems you may be having, the kayfun works awesome as-is, and if you haven't perfected your build enough to really have a good handle on things then do not try to compensate with modifying it...

actually I don't even mean to encourage anyone at all to do this, I only show it to share, share my findings and results for those advanced users who may benefit from the knowledge. don't mean to insult any that are perfectly happy with theirs as-is, you should be, it's awesome stock.... no one needs to hotrod there kayfun at all...

the flip side of this is, there is very little chance of ruining it unless you go absolutely wild with the dremel, opening these channels will not ruin it or render it unusable, truth is it is very difficult to remove any material here and I think most would have more problem with not removing enough to make a difference VS taking too much off and ruining it, it's simply increasing the flow potential a bit but if you have 2 left thumbs then leave the tools in the shed man

 

[generic mutant]

New to KFL.........Has anyone else had to drop their Nic level when using a KFL? I normally use 12mg in Genny's and 6 mg in Drippers but most of my 12mg juice is a little too harsh, too much throat hit. I know some of it depends on the juice becasue a few of my 12mg juice are perfect but most of them are just too strong for me in the KFL. I am going to try 9 mg.

Related, but different experience.

I chain-vape Protank style things.

With the KFL+, still using the same juice, but I can satiate myself in a few minutes, put it down, and not think about it for a while.

 

[BigCypress]

yeah turbo, I barely took anything off those channels. Really just gave em a nice bevel.

So I just got some replacement insulators in today (mine was a little off from overtightening the center post). and I bought new rolled cotton.

now its goin strong.

Def a little juicier but I know it is feeding.