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[Jerms]

So, I'd just like to say that I've had a bit of a revelation with my KFL+/R91 this morning. It's something that probably shouldn't be a revelation and something I'm sure many of you were aware of already.

I've been vaping away happily on both my Russian and KFL+ now for a few months. I swear to God, for whatever reason it's been seared into my mind that you want to keep the wick (in my case cotton) clear of the eliquid channels. So that's what I've been doing, making sure that before I screw on the top of the chimney I can see the channels. It's never been a "problem". The device always seemed to be wicking fine and was giving me a better vape than I would have expected from anything other than a dripper. Consistent build of a 28 gauge, 7 wrap microcoil (3/32 or 2.4 mm ID) clocking in right around 1.3 ohms. Running it on a ProVari @ 3.5-3.7v.

But, for whatever reason recently, I've been feeling like there was something missing. No, I haven't been getting dry hits or even what I would consider dry-ish hits. However, I just kept feeling like I could do a little better. So I swallowed my pride and went back and read through a couple threads. I even went back and watched PBusardo's KFL/R91 video....and that's when it really hit me. At some point, for some reason, it got stuck in my head that "don't block the eliquid channels" meant "keep the eliquid channels clear.

So I just built a fresh coil, same stats as always (1.29 ohms). Wicked it with organic cotton ball, but trimmed the wick just a tiny bit longer than usual. I made sure that the ends of my wick were just covering the eliquid channels, not stuffed against them, just ON them.

Basically within the first handful of vapes, it hit me..... THIS is what a "fully saturated" vape is! Same great flavor, maybe slightly better. Sligltly more vapor, but a significantly "wetter" vape. It's simply more satisfying.

I feel so dumb writing this because for most of you I'm just stating the obvious. But for anyone else who has gotten it in their head to keep the wicking "clear" of the eliquid channels, you are really missing out on the full experience these devices offer. Yes, don't "block the channels by stuffing the wick against or into them, but DO position the ends of your wick so that they are ON them. I mean, this thing just keeps wicking and wicking and wicking now.

I can't believe I've been so ignorant to this simple thing.

Interesting. I've also been putting my cotton down the side until it rests on the bottom, and making sure the channel was clear as I thought that was important. Next time I'll skip clearing the channel and rest the wick on them.

 

[Dusty_D]

I put the chimney on, grab a flat tip screwdriver and stuff the wick down the sides without any regard to where it's going. Never had a bit of trouble.

You're probably going to have to go higher than 6 watts for the problems to manifest themselves..

 

[Bronze]

Ha! Could be.

You're probably going to have to go higher than 6 watts for the problems to manifest themselves..

 

[Dusty_D]

Interesting. I've also been putting my cotton down the side until it rests on the bottom, and making sure the channel was clear as I thought that was important. Next time I'll skip clearing the channel and rest the wick on them.

I'm pretty sure Donnah refuted the theory of keeping wicks away from the channels around 3000 posts ago. Y'all are not reading the entire thread before posting?!

 

[Snapdragon]

I only have 2 KFL+s - yes, you should feel extremely sorry for me and send me all your spare KFs

In spite of all the awesome gennies I have I'm now only using those 2 - both on ProVaris. I would love to get a third one for my Vanilla but I can't help wondering what's next. I keep thinking that SvoёMesto may be working on some dazzling new release and I know I'm going to want that too. Anyone care to speculate on the future of KF?

 

[Dusty_D]

I only have 2 KFL+s - yes, you should feel extremely sorry for me and send me all your spare KFs

In spite of all the awesome gennies I have I'm now only using those 2 - both on ProVaris. I would love to get a third one for my Vanilla but I can't help wondering what's next. I keep thinking that SvoёMesto may be working on some dazzling new release and I know I'm going to want that too. Anyone care to speculate on the future of KF?

Once you reach the peak, the only way is down..

or Enlightenment!!

I'm leaning towards the latter..hopefully!

 

[slavkov]

I only have 2 KFL+s - yes, you should feel extremely sorry for me and send me all your spare KFs

In spite of all the awesome gennies I have I'm now only using those 2 - both on ProVaris. I would love to get a third one for my Vanilla but I can't help wondering what's next. I keep thinking that SvoёMesto may be working on some dazzling new release and I know I'm going to want that too. Anyone care to speculate on the future of KF?

From a trustworthy source i know that the 4.0\4.1 is ready ;-)

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[Snapdragon]

Once you reach the peak, the only way is down..

or Enlightenment!!

I'm leaning towards the latter..hopefully!

Haha - sounds more like a reference to the "Zen" tank

 

[turbocad6]

So, I'd just like to say that I've had a bit of a revelation with my KFL+/R91 this morning. It's something that probably shouldn't be a revelation and something I'm sure many of you were aware of already.

I've been vaping away happily on both my Russian and KFL+ now for a few months. I swear to God, for whatever reason it's been seared into my mind that you want to keep the wick (in my case cotton) clear of the eliquid channels. So that's what I've been doing, making sure that before I screw on the top of the chimney I can see the channels. It's never been a "problem". The device always seemed to be wicking fine and was giving me a better vape than I would have expected from anything other than a dripper. Consistent build of a 28 gauge, 7 wrap microcoil (3/32 or 2.4 mm ID) clocking in right around 1.3 ohms. Running it on a ProVari @ 3.5-3.7v.

But, for whatever reason recently, I've been feeling like there was something missing. No, I haven't been getting dry hits or even what I would consider dry-ish hits. However, I just kept feeling like I could do a little better. So I swallowed my pride and went back and read through a couple threads. I even went back and watched PBusardo's KFL/R91 video....and that's when it really hit me. At some point, for some reason, it got stuck in my head that "don't block the eliquid channels" meant "keep the eliquid channels clear.

So I just built a fresh coil, same stats as always (1.29 ohms). Wicked it with organic cotton ball, but trimmed the wick just a tiny bit longer than usual. I made sure that the ends of my wick were just covering the eliquid channels, not stuffed against them, just ON them.

Basically within the first handful of vapes, it hit me..... THIS is what a "fully saturated" vape is! Same great flavor, maybe slightly better. Sligltly more vapor, but a significantly "wetter" vape. It's simply more satisfying.

I feel so dumb writing this because for most of you I'm just stating the obvious. But for anyone else who has gotten it in their head to keep the wicking "clear" of the eliquid channels, you are really missing out on the full experience these devices offer. Yes, don't "block the channels by stuffing the wick against or into them, but DO position the ends of your wick so that they are ON them. I mean, this thing just keeps wicking and wicking and wicking now.

I can't believe I've been so ignorant to this simple thing.

this is something I've been saying for a while now, just because you think it's vaping fine doesn't mean you are really getting a fully saturated wick or the best vape possible. I've had plenty of builds that vaped ok but not the same as say a dripper or a bottom fed reo or something, but it is possible to get a fully saturated vape in the kayfun too depending on build and wattage. with the kayfun stock I've found that when you try to push 14 and 15 watts and better this problem becomes more apparent and stock a kayfun has a really hard time keeping up with wicking over 15 watts without adding dry pulls at times to gain fully saturated wick. this is why I modified my feed channels, so I can get a fully saturated wick even at 15 watts and above... now I know some say they vape a stock kayfun at 15 watts and better but I question weather there actually really getting a fully saturated optimum vape at that power level with a stock kayfun. it's really not calibrated for that kind of wattage stock imho

 

[Jerms]

I'm pretty sure Donnah refuted the theory of keeping wicks away from the channels around 3000 posts ago. Y'all are not reading the entire thread before posting?!

I'm on page 85. It's hard to want to read more than a few pages at a time because it's been mostly shipping related posts. Hopefully performance and set-ups get discussed more early in the thread or I'm going to skip trying to read the whole thing from the beginning.

 

[KurrptSenate]

Recently went from a larger drill bit down to a 5/64ths. It's harder to wick the thing, but getting more wraps and more surface area is very nice. I can't see me going back for this atomizer

 

[Bronze]

I'm on page 85. It's hard to want to read more than a few pages at a time because it's been mostly shipping related posts. Hopefully performance and set-ups get discussed more early in the thread or I'm going to skip trying to read the whole thing from the beginning.

The other thing you can do is stick with the setup you have now and skip all the reading. I'm guessing your KFL experience wont get a whole lot better.

 

[BuffaloBore]

The best wicking arrangement I've found is a single 3mm silica wick just long enough to reach half way down the wells on each side with cotton filler in the wells feeding the silica and not touching the coil. I love the way cotton wicks but I can taste the stuff when it's heated no matter if it's sterile, boiled, organic etc.

 

[Bronze]

Ah, but it's fun to tinker around.

 

[Jerms]

The other thing you can do is stick with the setup you have now and skip all the reading. I'm guessing your KFL experience wont get a whole lot better.

Nah, I like reading even small tips and tricks, just the shipping stuff is boring, so I'll keep trucking on when I can. I know I won't get any drastic improvement over what I'm getting, since it's pretty close to the experience I get in my small rebuildable drippers, meaning just about perfect. I do run into the occasional less saturated vape or some leaky/gurgly, probably because I'm running it at around 15 watts. Keeping the airhole half covered for a tighter draw seems to do a good job keeping the vape saturated.

What's been nice is even if I get the occasional gurgle with thin liquid or occasional less saturation with thick liquid, it gets fixed for the entire vape session with either one drag for gurgle or one dry pull for dry. Such an easy device to find consistency with.

So even though I don't expect any major revelations, I'm sure I can discover some small tips to fully understand the device.

What I'd like to see for Kayfun V4.. a way to seperate the tank and get to the coil without emptying the tank. Also would be cool if the device could be made to be able to fully fill from a fill hole so that it's impossible to overfill, so someone could just blindly fill it up.

 

[Akdare]

Nah, I like reading even small tips and tricks, just the shipping stuff is boring, so I'll keep trucking on when I can. I know I won't get any drastic improvement over what I'm getting, since it's pretty close to the experience I get in my small rebuildable drippers, meaning just about perfect. I do run into the occasional less saturated vape or some leaky/gurgly, probably because I'm running it at around 15 watts. Keeping the airhole half covered for a tighter draw seems to do a good job keeping the vape saturated.

What's been nice is even if I get the occasional gurgle with thin liquid or occasional less saturation with thick liquid, it gets fixed for the entire vape session with either one drag for gurgle or one dry pull for dry. Such an easy device to find consistency with.

So even though I don't expect any major revelations, I'm sure I can discover some small tips to fully understand the device.

What I'd like to see for Kayfun V4.. a way to seperate the tank and get to the coil without emptying the tank. Also would be cool if the device could be made to be able to fully fill from a fill hole so that it's impossible to overfill, so someone could just blindly fill it up.

Furthermore, I would also like for it to clean the litter boxes, and let my dogs out while I'm at work.


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[Jerms]

Furthermore, I would also like for it to clean the litter boxes, and let my dogs out while I'm at work.


Sent from my iPad

Yours doesn't clean the litter box? May want to send it back, sounds defective. Have you tried lubing the oring?

 

[Bronze]

Nah, I like reading even small tips and tricks, just the shipping stuff is boring, so I'll keep trucking on when I can. I know I won't get any drastic improvement over what I'm getting, since it's pretty close to the experience I get in my small rebuildable drippers, meaning just about perfect. I do run into the occasional less saturated vape or some leaky/gurgly, probably because I'm running it at around 15 watts. Keeping the airhole half covered for a tighter draw seems to do a good job keeping the vape saturated.

What's been nice is even if I get the occasional gurgle with thin liquid or occasional less saturation with thick liquid, it gets fixed for the entire vape session with either one drag for gurgle or one dry pull for dry. Such an easy device to find consistency with.

So even though I don't expect any major revelations, I'm sure I can discover some small tips to fully understand the device.

What I'd like to see for Kayfun V4.. a way to seperate the tank and get to the coil without emptying the tank. Also would be cool if the device could be made to be able to fully fill from a fill hole so that it's impossible to overfill, so someone could just blindly fill it up.

I've come to realize the wicking/build tips are more important to the high/100% VG users. The 70/30ers like me seem to have less issues. Stands to reason.

 

[Bronze]

Furthermore, I would also like for it to clean the litter boxes, and let my dogs out while I'm at work.


Sent from my iPad

Yours doesn't clean the litter box? May want to send it back, sounds defective. Have you tried lubing the oring?

Rename it the KayNotSoFun.

 

[Dusty_D]

What I'd like to see for Kayfun V4.. a way to seperate the tank and get to the coil without emptying the tank. Also would be cool if the device could be made to be able to fully fill from a fill hole so that it's impossible to overfill, so someone could just blindly fill it up.

Two excellent suggestions. Taking notes..