Without seeing it, I'll have to say that if it's over $150, I'll get a clone first.
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Without seeing it, I'll have to say that if it's over $150, I'll get a clone first.
Unfortunately, I do think it'll be at least 160. Just thinking of how both the erlk and squape R have proven that it's a viable price point. And it seems like it'll be coming with a good amount of customization parts. Sigh. I really really want one though.
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I have just finished watching a video interview by one of the Russian reviewers with Marketing Director of svoemesto in Germany. That interview was in Russian. 4 Parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVNjf90fm58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfHW2IVJLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=445MsfodhRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4g8P-_ihGU
He revealed nothing except that it is a very complicated device, using state of the art latest technology and it is vary unlikely that it is going to be cloned in China anytime soon. I've learned nothing new. The 4 will include SS tank, PC Tank and Glass Tank. A new, completely different 510 Drip tip will also be included. It will have Airflow Control and juice Control. Sounds like the AFC is not going to be easily accessible. It will have SubOhm kit that will have more Airflow and more heat resistant insulator (sold separately). Also, for extra money you could purchase a Hybrid adapter for almost any Mod. It consists of 41 parts.
It sounded to me that the price is going to be way above 2 bills. IMHO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVNjf90fm58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfHW2IVJLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=445MsfodhRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4g8P-_ihGU
He revealed nothing except that it is a very complicated device, using state of the art latest technology and it is vary unlikely that it is going to be cloned in China anytime soon. I've learned nothing new. The 4 will include SS tank, PC Tank and Glass Tank. A new, completely different 510 Drip tip will also be included. It will have Airflow Control and juice Control. Sounds like the AFC is not going to be easily accessible. It will have SubOhm kit that will have more Airflow and more heat resistant insulator (sold separately). Also, for extra money you could purchase a Hybrid adapter for almost any Mod. It consists of 41 parts.
It sounded to me that the price is going to be way above 2 bills. IMHO
I'll wait for the second version clone of the second version of the original. You know, the one where they get all the glitches out of it. 
Such a shame that a company spends so much time/money/R&D on producing something new and exciting only for people to look forward to the counterfeits coming out. Each to their own I suppose but I'd always prefer to support the innovators over the imatators.
Im looking forward to the KF4 coming out. Hopefully santa will help me out this time next month
Im looking forward to the KF4 coming out. Hopefully santa will help me out this time next month
Start pricing stuff with a reasonable profit margin and things might change. Two bills for an "atomizer" that might or not satisfy you? Too much in my opinion but I though the Erlk was overpriced too (still think its pushing the boundary) but the Erlp is 100% worth it (at 39€). I2R came up with something great. Want to have a great vape and don't want/need a super finish, get the erlp. Want be in the exclusive group with unique serial number and bragging rights, get the Erlk.
Svoemesto should do something like that. How much time was devoted to that finish and detail we see on those pics? Probably more than it took to make all the parts.
And speaking of parts... 42 parts? Seriously? What does it do? Directfuel juice injection? Unless there is something revolutionary, the part count seems way too high to everything work correctly for any consumer.
Don't get me wrong. I want one even though I have no idea what it is but the information we got until know doesn't speak much in favor of it,
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Tony
Svoemesto should do something like that. How much time was devoted to that finish and detail we see on those pics? Probably more than it took to make all the parts.
And speaking of parts... 42 parts? Seriously? What does it do? Direct
Don't get me wrong. I want one even though I have no idea what it is but the information we got until know doesn't speak much in favor of it,
Regards
Tony
^^^^^ They did, the KFL, and it took off.
Oh, I think I missed something, maybe a down graded 4
Oh, I think I missed something, maybe a down graded 4
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My casual review of a KFL+ yields 24 parts in stock form. O-rings, screws, tank sections, insulators, evap chamber, chimney, base, topcap, blah. If you add optional parts such as full size Makrolon tank, short tanks (22mm & 23mm), colored tanks, long mode parts, etc, you might get 40+ parts today. 42 if you include optional accessories is not a surprise to me.
I could be wrong, but not by much.
Thank you for pointing that out, as I was thinking the same thing.
The description of the KF4 includes extra tanks and hybrid connectors and the like...I don't think they mean that there will be 42 parts in service when using the device...just that the whole kit contains 42 pieces...which we've just seen as not too far off the current model(s)...
Such a shame that a company spends so much time/money/R&D on producing something new and exciting only for people to look forward to the counterfeits coming out. Each to their own I suppose but I'd always prefer to support the innovators over the imatators.
Im looking forward to the KF4 coming out. Hopefully santa will help me out this time next month
It sounded like they didn't care about clones because they said they can manufacture way more than clone makers and they'll sell out. It might actually help them to have clones floating around. How many authentics have they sold because someone bought a clone and they liked it so much they bought an authentic?
41 parts. Vaping for me has always been to get me off analogs. It's turned into a hobby but atomizers costing over $100 is still ridiculous to me. I understand the cost of development but it's getting to the point these authentics are pricing them out of the mainstream.
"41 elements"
Ok, pix are up this am on site. Here is the video release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmDgCzo6btU
Here is the 3 tank options shown, ready to go!!! http://www.svoemesto.de/
In a few weeks, this will be sitting on a mod in my hand. have a great week ECF!
Here is the 3 tank options shown, ready to go!!! http://www.svoemesto.de/
In a few weeks, this will be sitting on a mod in my hand. have a great week ECF!
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OH HELL YES ACCESS TO COILS WOTHOUT DRAINING!!!! HELLLL YES
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Also am I the only one who finds the bulging middle section really ugly :/ looks like I'm gonna have to stick to the m-tank look
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My OCD is not accepting the "bulge" look. I own a GUS Estia, that i only dislike the bulge =/ Will fit my PapsX, but i like smooth, straight lines.
Also they have a juice feeling system very similar to the Aqua v2 it seems. Juice flows from the tank, down some holes and to the base where the wick is. Ha!
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The chimney looks like they researched that. But from experience it's only marketing lol.I just wanna know if it makes my juice taste better.
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