Let's be honest, smoking cigarettes is far cheaper than vaping!

[hurricanegirl100]

No, he's not right. Check out my signature. That's every penny I've spent on vaping: juice, mods, tanks, batteries, etc.

I don't even DIY and I've saved on average $125 per month for the last 2 years.

Spartan's right on that, too. When I quit smoking and started vaping, cigarettes were $5.00 a pack (tax included) in Ohio. I smoked a pack a day.
5 x 30 = 150.00

My mods and RDA's are paid for. Done. So, now, all I buy is juice. Around $50 a month

150 - 50 you do the math.

 

[supertrunker]

227 + (3 x 9)...
Amazing how it all adds up!

Still cheaper than smoking however.

T

 

[hurricanegirl100]

227 + (3 x 9)...
Amazing how it all adds up!

Still cheaper than smoking however.

T

God, I've been crunching numbers for too damn long! Thanks, SuperTrunker!

And, keep in mind, I bought all of that over a period of 3-4 months.

 

[hurricanegirl100]

No one forced you to subohm or told you that you had to subohm. You could have very well stayed with ego's and cheap juice and kept spending $40-$50 a month. When I started with ego style gear (Halo Triton) I only went through 3 ml of juice a day. Now that I am subohming, I go through about 7-8 ml a day. But it was my choice to subohm. It was also my choice to spend almost $1,000 on mods over the past two months.

If you need a car to commute to work, you could very well get by spending $5k to $10k on a used Honda or Toyota. You don't need to spend $100k+ on a Mercedes or a Porsche.

Okay, not a thousand a month, but maybe a thousand a year? Why the hell not lol..that Coolfire IV rocks, incidentally!

 

[mcclintock]

Keep in mind:
Stuffing your own smokes is like building coils and DIY juice.

Actually the effort using an injector machine is closer to the minimum effort to vape, unless using prefilled cartridges. 10-15 minutes a day making cigs or refilling tanks plus charging batteries ... although you don't need a lighter . It's good preparation for switching to vaping, actually.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Actually the effort using an injector machine is closer to the minimum effort to vape, unless using prefilled cartridges. 10-15 minutes a day making cigs or refilling tanks plus charging batteries ... although you don't need a lighter . It's good preparation for switching to vaping, actually.

The comparison was cost not effort.

That said,
I drip mostly or use a genesis tank lately on a dual 18650 box mod.
I spend less than a minute total a day filling multiple times, and seconds swapping batteries maybe once.
Less effort than stuffing a pack or hand rolling one single cig.

 

[MrDripper]

No matter what we do or where we go, there will always be haters.
It may be from smokers, government or businesses but they will come.
The poster is entitled to his opinion.
But to come into our house and tell us that we're wrong, disingenuous or that there is a cheaper way to smoke cigarettes is wrong.
We're overcoming an addiction and a killer habit here.
Would you take a reformed drug addict to a Grateful Dead concert?
Please, take your hate elsewhere.

 

[jseah]

View attachment 462637 View attachment 462638 View attachment 462639 Okay, not a thousand a month, but maybe a thousand a year? Why the hell not lol..that Coolfire IV rocks, incidentally!

And all the money I spent on mods in the past two months is still less than half of what I spent on my last Canon L lens for my camera (another expensive hobby).

 

[MR. Mad]

I am new here and I am surely not the type to stir the pot, but something is bothering me. I see all these members with banners at the bottom explaining how much money they have saved thus far by not smoking, and vaping instead? I just have to shake my head and wonder what planet they come from.

Ten years ago I purchased a top of the line cigarette injector for $25. That same injector costs $35 right now, and it has been highly improved. I can buy top quality bulk tobacco wholesale on the internet, top quality filtered cigarette tubes, and produce world class cigarettes for just about $1.25 per pack. A few years ago it was less than a $1.00 per pack. These are first class top quality cigarettes, better than anything you can buy in any store. You can make them in any style or strength you like, regular or menthol.

A fumble fingered klutz with no practice can pump out one cigarette every 30 seconds, I can do 5 or 6 per minute, and I am kind of a klutz myself! I know poor people and rich people who make cigarettes this same way. Who still buys cigarettes in stores for $5 to $10 per pack? Seriously, who does that? Certainly not anyone with an IQ above 75.

Don't tell me it would have been to difficult for you to do, because messing with Mods, and e-juice, and batteries is far more time consuming and difficult than pumping out cigarettes on a tube injector. So my former habit cost me $1.25 per day for a pack. I can already tell that I will be burning far more than $1.25 in e-juice daily.

All I am saying is that vaping is more expensive than smoking for anyone with common sense, so stop bragging about how much money you saved, that is disingenuous. Brag about why you are doing it for your health.

Are you totally for real ? Philip Morris posted a second-quarter profit of 1.85 BILLION so yea no one is paying that.
btw u can also try to make your own pepsi.

In a lot of states its illegal to import tobacco so while prices may be low where you are its not the same for everyone.

In my case i was a 2pad smoker to the tune of around $14 per day and oddly enough my IQ is way above a 75 .That was about a year and a half ago now if we do the math my initial purchase was around $80 to get started after that i budgeted my self $100 per month for 5 months and got all my tanks, batts and diy supplies. also i have built my own coils since 30 days or so after i first started vaping. after that i put myself on a $50 per month budget for anything vape related i wanted.

This has been going on for 1.5 years if we do the math , $600 for the first 6 months then $600 for the next year. That's about $1200 in a year and a half give or take a $100 or 2 .Also take into account that after the first 6 month period i am only at $600 per year . now compared to the price i was paying for analogs $14/day my current average for vaping including the tons of gear i have purchased is $2.1/day over the last 18 months. Over the last 12 months has been $1.60/day and this also takes into account new mods,tanks, batts , juice all of it.

may not be as low as the $1.25 of your roll your owns but still a hell of a lot less than i used to spend.

 

[supertrunker]

If only mathematical ability and accuracy were coupled with the ability to use paragraphs and basic punctuation, it would be a start.

It took me a while to get into rebuildables, but i am now kicking myself to death, thinking about the extra 45c i could have saved, had i seen the light a little earlier.

I'll struggle on of course, sustained by the thought that one day i might look upon a Canon lens!

T

 

[MR. Mad]

If only mathematical ability and accuracy were coupled with the ability to use paragraphs and basic punctuation, it would be a start.

It took me a while to get into rebuildables, but i am now kicking myself to death, thinking about the extra 45c i could have saved, had i seen the light a little earlier.

I'll struggle on of course, sustained by the thought that one day i might look upon a Canon lens!

T

Guilty as charged .

ok i fixed it up a bit.

 

[Rossum]

I am new here and I am surely not the type to stir the pot, but something is bothering me. I see all these members with banners at the bottom explaining how much money they have saved thus far by not smoking, and vaping instead? I just have to shake my head and wonder what planet they come from.

Ten years ago I purchased a top of the line cigarette injector for $25. That same injector costs $35 right now, and it has been highly improved. I can buy top quality bulk tobacco wholesale on the internet, top quality filtered cigarette tubes, and produce world class cigarettes for just about $1.25 per pack. A few years ago it was less than a $1.00 per pack. These are first class top quality cigarettes, better than anything you can buy in any store. You can make them in any style or strength you like, regular or menthol.

A fumble fingered klutz with no practice can pump out one cigarette every 30 seconds, I can do 5 or 6 per minute, and I am kind of a klutz myself! I know poor people and rich people who make cigarettes this same way. Who still buys cigarettes in stores for $5 to $10 per pack? Seriously, who does that? Certainly not anyone with an IQ above 75.

Don't tell me it would have been to difficult for you to do, because messing with Mods, and e-juice, and batteries is far more time consuming and difficult than pumping out cigarettes on a tube injector. So my former habit cost me $1.25 per day for a pack. I can already tell that I will be burning far more than $1.25 in e-juice daily.

All I am saying is that vaping is more expensive than smoking for anyone with common sense, so stop bragging about how much money you saved, that is disingenuous. Brag about why you are doing it for your health.

The problem with this analysis is that you seem to be comparing RYO cigs with store-bought juice. That's an unreasonable comparison. You need to compare RYO cigs to DIY juice, or store-bought cigs to store-bought juice. If you do that, vaping is cheaper than smoking every time.

I never did the RYO thing, not because I'm stupid, but because it wasn't worth my time. I smoked 2 PAD. At 30 seconds per stick, that would have been 20 minutes of my time, every single day, and horribly tedious. To me personally, it simply wouldn't have been worth the $10 or so I could have saved every day. I do DIY some (but not all) of my juice. In 20 minutes, I can make several months worth of juice. I do spend 3-5 minutes per day filling my mods with juice and swapping out the batteries. I probably average another 15 minutes per week re-wicking or re-building. I do that strictly on an as-needed basis. None of that involves 20 minutes of repetitive motion tedium.

Have I personally saved money by vaping? If you just look at consumables, Yep, no doubt about it. OTOH, if you also count the mods and atties I've bought, then the answer is "definitely not", but I don't need all that gear to stay off cigs, I just happen to like it and can afford it.

 

[AndriaD]

The problem with this analysis is that you seem to be comparing RYO cigs with store-bought juice. That's an unreasonable comparison. You need to compare RYO cigs to DIY juice, or store-bought cigs to store-bought juice. If you do that, vaping is cheaper than smoking every time.

I never did the RYO thing, not because I'm stupid, but because it wasn't worth my time. I smoked 2 PAD. At 30 seconds per stick, that would have been 20 minutes of my time, every single day, and horribly tedious. To me personally, it simply wouldn't have been worth the $10 or so I could have saved every day. I do DIY some (but not all) of my juice. In 20 minutes, I can make several months worth of juice. I do spend 3-5 minutes per day filling my mods with juice and swapping out the batteries. I probably average another 15 minutes per week re-wicking or re-building. I do that strictly on an as-needed basis. None of that involves 20 minutes of repetitive motion tedium.

Have I personally saved money by vaping? If you just look at consumables, Yep, no doubt about it. OTOH, if you also count the mods and atties I've bought, then the answer is "definitely not", but I don't need all that gear to stay off cigs, I just happen to like it and can afford it.

For me, I have "all that gear," and keep buying more on a regular though not frequent basis, so that vaping is ALWAYS easier than smoking -- in all the choices I have of tank and mod and juice, there will be SOMETHING that will work reliably enough that my brain doesn't wander to the thought of cigarettes. Electronics wear out and just go FUBAR for whatever reason, batteries run out, wear out, hopefully not but possibly flame out... juice can spill, or just run out if I've been too lazy to make it, or for whatever reason, an old familiar vape can start tasting like crap... Almost every part of vaping is fallible in one way or another, so there must be MULTIPLE options and ways of getting it done. I can't afford to be cavalier about my salvation from 39 years of hopeless addiction. But it's STILL cheaper than smoking, in every possible way, and I've got a bunch of shiny stuff over on the counter, rather than a big bucket of ashes out on the porch.

Andria

 

[mechhunter]

OP I get what you are saying, and I actually agree.

It's all about market share. As more smokers start to vape prices will go down. It's already starting to happen as you can buy a quality regulated mod and atty for less than a hundred dollars, compared to a couple of years ago when mech mods, which are really just metal tubes, sold for hundreds.

We should start to see quality ejuice prices decline as well.

 

[KattMamma]

hardware is going down.

juice? I see this the same as ink for inkjet printers... sell you cheap hardware then keep you coming back for the consumables.

 

[AndriaD]

hardware is going down.

juice? I see this the same as ink for inkjet printers... sell you cheap hardware then keep you coming back for the consumables.

I discovered eBay as the cure for that particular extortion -- buying them 4 at a time! Dirt cheap compared to retail!

Andria

 

[WillyZee]

when taxes kick in on juice everywhere

I wonder if the trend of high watt, high juice consumption will continue?

 

[distruzio]

Nonsense. I was spending AT LEAST $20/day on cigars and cigarettes. Now Im spending $25/week on juice. All the money I spend on mods, coil, and cotton is far less than the money Id be spending on healthcare costs associated with tobacco use considering the higher costs for insurance ans medical care.

In the past 6 months Ive spent about $1k on assorted vaping related purchases. 6 months smoking was, at a minimum and NOT including the medical costs of insurance and expenses, $3600.

Vaping is faaaaaaaaar cheaper.

 

[Lessifer]

when taxes kick in on juice everywhere

I wonder if the trend of high watt, high juice consumption will continue?

I prefer middle range watt, high-ish nic, low juice consumption.

I've always been conscious of how much juice I consume and I try to keep it below 3ml a day, usually about half that.

Whenever I see someone post that they go through 10+ml/day, my wallet aches. Not that there's anything wrong with it, just not for me.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I am new here and I am surely not the type to stir the pot, but something is bothering me. I see all these members with banners at the bottom explaining how much money they have saved thus far by not smoking, and vaping instead? I just have to shake my head and wonder what planet they come from.

Ten years ago I purchased a top of the line cigarette injector for $25. That same injector costs $35 right now, and it has been highly improved. I can buy top quality bulk tobacco wholesale on the internet, top quality filtered cigarette tubes, and produce world class cigarettes for just about $1.25 per pack. A few years ago it was less than a $1.00 per pack. These are first class top quality cigarettes, better than anything you can buy in any store. You can make them in any style or strength you like, regular or menthol.

A fumble fingered klutz with no practice can pump out one cigarette every 30 seconds, I can do 5 or 6 per minute, and I am kind of a klutz myself! I know poor people and rich people who make cigarettes this same way. Who still buys cigarettes in stores for $5 to $10 per pack? Seriously, who does that? Certainly not anyone with an IQ above 75.

Don't tell me it would have been to difficult for you to do, because messing with Mods, and e-juice, and batteries is far more time consuming and difficult than pumping out cigarettes on a tube injector. So my former habit cost me $1.25 per day for a pack. I can already tell that I will be burning far more than $1.25 in e-juice daily.

All I am saying is that vaping is more expensive than smoking for anyone with common sense, so stop bragging about how much money you saved, that is disingenuous. Brag about why you are doing it for your health.

You bring an interesting perspective that I never really considered before. I spend a lot of time basically "tinkering" with my vape stuff -- builds, mixes, cleaning, make sure all the batteries are kept charged, inventory and ordering of supplies, etc. etc. As a smoker I would never in a million years have spent any time rolling my own -- can't say why, just wouldn't and didn't. If I had, you're right, the $ savings of vaping evaporate. Except for the savings in hospital stays and surgeries for lung cancer and heart disease I won't have to pay for. How much is not having a stroke worth lol?

As a smoker, I spent about $200 a month or $2,400 a year on store bought smokes. At the time it was worth it; I enjoyed smoking. Rolling my own never appealed to me and I'm not inclined to spend time doing things that don't really interest me. I don't spend any where near that on vape gear and mixing supplies and I do enjoy tinkering with it.