Let's find a new name for e-cigarettes!

[mcclintock]

Vapor cigarette seems to me the most technically descriptive. In these days of iPhones, they're not very electronic. I never liked the term "atomizer" very much, that's the thing on a can of spray paint that makes the mist, it's like they're trying to cover up that it vaporizes through heat. Cigarette fits, even if it doesn't look like one, as it does make almost any flavor more cigarette like except cig flavors themselves: pipe tobacco flavors are lighter and more cig-like, fruity flavors are more intense and cig-like (although admittedly this is somewhat dependent on nicotine level).

 

[Phild0]

Huh???? I have never tasted a custard cig......

 

[amoret]

It's too late to change it now, but I'm kind of fond of Electronic Nicotine Delivery System - ENDS.

 

[Phild0]

I like the idea of www. penis-forum .com in place of the existing.

Ok, YIKES!!!!!!

 

[Stinkytofus]

e-hookah, vaporizer, e-vaporizer

 

[bullet08]

vape. simple and it's the word of the year. words have power. they convey meaning. keep calling it cig is wrong. it's nothing like a cig. i've been calling it vape and people around me know it as vape. as long as people keep calling it e-cig, they will associate it with smoking.

 

[rolygate]

I call it an EV, an electric/electronic vaporizer, but it's unlikely to catch on.

Also keep in mind that it doesn't matter what the name is, it won't affect any regulations - they just move the goalposts as necessary, in order to protect the current tax and revenues. But I agree it would have altered public perception, if the term had always been something like EV or PV and never e-cigarette or ecig.

The pharma shills and rentseekers (basically all/most of the ANTZ) will always use the worst possible name if there is one, as that is a basic technique of propaganda. Once the term 'e-cigarette' is out there, it will always be used by journalists and researchers who want to make a buck. It would never die even if everyone else used something accurate like EV. And, unfortunately, the term 'electronic cigarette' or e-cigarette is about the worst possible option, since it is both inaccurate and illogically associates a nebulizer with burning chopped-up plants.

Unfortunately, the only reason you know about the ecig at all is because that's what it was called by early marketers. It would have been absolutely impossible to get the first smokers to switch if it had been called a nebulizer or vaporiser or anything like that. Today we'd have about 2,000 people using them globally if ecigs had been marketed at first as inhalers of some kind. Hardly anyone would have found it on the web and and hardly anyone would have bought one.

So for the first few years, the name 'e-cigarette' is what got us the mass participation, and it couldn't have been done any other way. Now it's a millstone round our neck. These things can be changed over time - cars, trains and so on weren't called that originally - but it requires a massive effort and some way to shift all those who have an investment in the term. Bit hard to move if your business is called 'Whizzo E-Cigarettes' and it cost you $10,000 already on web promotion to get where you are, and a change to Whizzo EVs is going to kill all new traffic to your site for 6 months. And that's the reality.

 

[Rickajho]

I think we need to disassociate vaping from cigarettes if we don't want to be regulated like them. Don't you think?
What would you change the name e cigarette too?

I think this topic has been discussed to death a bazzillion times already. And discussing it yet again isn't going to improve the conversation, the issues, or the likelihood you can disassociate e-cigarettes from the one thing that is effective in getting you off real cigarettes. You are barking up the wrong tree thinking a couple of 'magical words' are gonna change everything.

 

[bullet08]

business cater to people you do cash transaction with them. we start calling it vape, they will have to catch up. if they don't, they lose money, and i'm sure they don't want that at all. words can change how people perceive things. we keep on calling it e-cig, it will always be viewed and associated with cig. if we make the effort and change it, soon people will learn to distinguish it from cig and smoke. why do you thing advertisement firms spend millions of dollars coming up with right words and images to use? we have to change our image.

 

[spartanstew]

Bit hard to move if your business is called 'Whizzo E-Cigarettes' and it cost you $10,000 already on web promotion to get where you are, and a change to Whizzo EVs is going to kill all new traffic to your site for 6 months. And that's the reality.

Not really, whizzo e-cigarettes could keep everything they have in place and have a mirror site called whizzo EV's where traffic is re-directed. Companies do it all the time and doesn't really add to the cost (ecf, for example could do it rather easily).

As for the rest, I agree the term was needed initially, but it is time for a change. However, nobody seems willing to do that (change). It just takes one person/web site to get the ball rolling.

 

[SuperTaz]

I think this topic has been discussed to death a bazzillion times already. And discussing it yet again isn't going to improve the conversation, the issues, or the likelihood you can disassociate e-cigarettes from the one thing that is effective in getting you off real cigarettes. You are barking up the wrong tree thinking a couple of 'magical words' are gonna change everything.

Woof!...You can teach an old dog new tricks!

 

[jpargana]

Cigarettes are composed of paper wrap, tobacco, filter.

Vape stuff is composed of mouthpiece, atomizer, tank and batteries. Similar to an inhaler.

Anyone calling inhalers "cigarettes" must have some strong agenda.

Did you know what we used to call chocolate cigarettes ? Well, "chocolate cigarettes"...! There was no paper, no tobacco, no nicotine in those, and they were sold to "the children". (Many times, paid for by our parents or grand-parents). Back then, people were smart enough to realize that it was called a "cigarette" because it was MEANT to resemble a cigarette in a jokingly way, but it wasn't definitely a cigarette... and people were OK with that.

The "agenda" you speak of was first spread by the manufacturers themselves, even before ANTZ's realized such a thing existed. Did manufacturers have an agenda against their own products? No. They simply called them "electronic cigarettes" to catch the interest of current smokers. I do not think I would have started vaping back in 2009, when those things were still not widely known, it they were called "vaporizers"... which are usually used for "other things". To me, personally, "electronic cigarette" is quite to the point, to describe a product that "can be used as, or in place of", a cigarette, and yet it is NOT really a "cigarette", because it is an "electronic device".

I'm also OK with "NA-beer", for example: it is still beer, but without the alchool.

"OK, but NA-beer clearly states that it is a NON alchoolic beer."
Would be "smokeless cigarettes" a better term back then? No, because people would believe e-cigs were something like heat-no-burn tobacco devices. Which our devices clearly are not.

I'm actually OK with e-cigarettes because:

- I get stranger looks when I tell people I use a "vaporizer" ("other stuff" use inferred), than when I tell them I use an electronic cigarette. That, at least, is a name the misinformed people recognize.

- There are still a lot of smokers out there who could benefit from the switch

- And, unfortunately, the ANTZ's agenda will allways be there. It doesn't really matter what we call our devices. If it it is used as a cigarette and releases "smoke", it will still be a "cigarette" in their little heads, even if what it really is a big, pink box mod.

 

[Darryl Licht]

I agree that e-cig isn't the greatest descriptor and has negative connotations to the uninformed sheeple.

So I vote for PVD (Personal Vaporizing Device)

 

[Ryedan]

I'm lost on that..since the 70's?? What am I missing? How is it a derogatory term?

Edit: Not trying to hijack the thread, my brain stopped there and refuses to go further until it knows why...should have thought to use PM
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Don't feel bad, I didn't know either. I've always used the word oriental to refer to ... hmmm ... I'll get back to you on that

 

[wheelie]

I have always called them "vape systems". Vape is the word of the year and made the dictionary. CHEERS!

 

[DoubleEwe]

I will go with 'Battery Operated Nicotine Gizmo', cant work out what the acronym would be though...

 

[Jode]

There really is no need to hurry these things. I believe the name is already going in a new direction with "vape" being word of the year. I call all my setups, "VAPES". I never use the term e-cig, but do not have a problem with the name because as many have already stated.....it can help to catch somebodies ear and lead them to discover how much better vaping is over smoking. No big movement is needed here. Call em whatever feels comfortable to you....e-cig, vapes, PV's, P.E.N.I.S ( still laughing like an adolescent)

 

[rolygate]

And there we have it. 93 different suggestions for the new word for ecigs, indicating that any agreement is unlikely to say the least.

 

[cags]

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[93gc40]

Maybe Guns should be renamed as High Velocity Nail Drivers.
You can call a Lion a chair.... You gonna sit on it?