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RADFREE

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Well, I'm about as green as they come on here and totally new to this. I don't even know what some of your abbreviations mean at all! However, I did not start to get into this to save money. Obviously, someone bright enough *sure I was* to smoke for so many years has acted as if they have wheel barrels full of money already. So if I put cost as my first concern then I might as well not even give this a shot. I've spent boat loads on cigarettes over the years and ruined my health in the process. It's time to spend some money that could lead me down a healthier road. Most people trying this to get away from cigarettes are prepared to spend something and have a lot to learn and know it.

I know I do. I'd have already ordered but, I'm overwhelmed right now with all the info and have NO IDEA what the hell I even need to be ordering! No sense just making an order when I'm not sure what most of the merchandise even is yet. I really do think anybody thinking of saving money first as the goal is going to have a really hard time to quit smoking cigs. I've read here quite a bit before joining though not enough I'm sure. I didn't see anyone misleading so far as to cost. Really, given what I've spent this month alone on cigarettes, I'm not too concerned. Ready to take the plunge and want something that will WORK for me even if it is not the cheapest way to go. Maybe, just maybe I'll be around to be at my son's wedding. That's worth a ton more than worrying about saving a dollar or not.
 

Nikkita6

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With my very first Ecig purchase I spent $65 on 510 mega and one 30ml of juice which was more than enough to get me started and keep me going for my first month of vaping.

Two or three weeks later I decided to purchase an Ego kit and 3 more 30ml bottles of juice because I wanted to try the much hyped Ego and some other flavors however, this was a purchase based on a desire to try more stuff, not a purchase of neccessity. vaping can be far more cost effective than cigarettes, if that is a goal for you.

I have spent far more money on vaping within the last 3 months (around $1,000) than I would have spent on cigarettes within the same time period however, this was purely CHOICE AND ADDICTION to shopping, lol. I don't need half of what I have purchased, and right now I have enough juice, extra batteries, cartos, PCC's, and chargers to open a booth at a Flea Market :p ...

$200 bucks, some sound research and smart purchases is more than enough to get a newbie started and set for their first couple of months vaping if cost is genuinely a concern. $50-$75 bucks a month is more than enough to maintain your vaping habit if cost is a concern ... If cost is not a concern, then like myself you will spend a ton of money trying this, buying that just cuz it's so much FUN!
 

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Well, I'm about as green as they come on here and totally new to this. I don't even know what some of your abbreviations mean at all! However, I did not start to get into this to save money. Obviously, someone bright enough *sure I was* to smoke for so many years has acted as if they have wheel barrels full of money already. So if I put cost as my first concern then I might as well not even give this a shot. I've spent boat loads on cigarettes over the years and ruined my health in the process. It's time to spend some money that could lead me down a healthier road. Most people trying this to get away from cigarettes are prepared to spend something and have a lot to learn and know it.

I know I do. I'd have already ordered but, I'm overwhelmed right now with all the info and have NO IDEA what the hell I even need to be ordering! No sense just making an order when I'm not sure what most of the merchandise even is yet. I really do think anybody thinking of saving money first as the goal is going to have a really hard time to quit smoking cigs. I've read here quite a bit before joining though not enough I'm sure. I didn't see anyone misleading so far as to cost. Really, given what I've spent this month alone on cigarettes, I'm not too concerned. Ready to take the plunge and want something that will WORK for me even if it is not the cheapest way to go. Maybe, just maybe I'll be around to be at my son's wedding. That's worth a ton more than worrying about saving a dollar or not.

Good Rule of thumb (not mine - this was someone elses) - count how much you spend on cigarettes in 1 month (include the cigs, lighters, breath mints, spray on deodorizers or anything else that is an essential part of your habit).

Keep that as your ceiling for your initial investment in ecigs.

If you use your ecig for just one month - you're down nothing and you'll know whether this is something you can work and live with.

It's a good place to start from.

As for which device - take the plunge! Find something that appeals to you and ask some advice on it, read some reviews. You're not married to the device - parts of your kit will wear down and require replacement anyway.

Have a great new year!
 

sabre66

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4mths in and $800-1000 bucks spent on liquids a buzz pro, ego-t a volt setup and a bunch of other stuff. The volt setup will be giving away the ego t is my leave the house setup the BP is for home only (to beautiful and big to take out). Considering I used to spend 600 a month on analogs I've saved a crap load. My wife loves me again ........I don't smell. My customers love me ..........I dont smell ........My work vehicle loves me.......it dont smell. And I vape inside ........its cold and rainy.

Now I only have one more mod to purchase (notcigs envy) to replace the ego-t and I'm done with big ticket hardware only juice and cartos..... oh wait I have a GTUS on the way...... that should take me down to about 50-75 or less a month. Quiting cancer sticks alone will pay for our vacations each year, or even that new car I've been eying up.
 

terranq

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Just read the first page of this thread, and I have a question:
Who here has ever said that you can start vaping for $29.99?
Oh, and another question:
Why does someone giving their impression of a juice offend you? You're ranting about people wasting their hard earned money buying things they don't need, and how you just need to know if the juice tastes like what it's supposed to. How are you supposed to know that without wasting your money, unless someone gives you their impression of the juice?

Nonsensical...
 

Bluesmaster75

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Just read the first page of this thread, and I have a question:
Who here has ever said that you can start vaping for $29.99?
Oh, and another question:
Why does someone giving their impression of a juice offend you? You're ranting about people wasting their hard earned money buying things they don't need, and how you just need to know if the juice tastes like what it's supposed to. How are you supposed to know that without wasting your money, unless someone gives you their impression of the juice?

Nonsensical...

I am glad you asked about this as I was going to revisit this subject in a new post minus the hours of inebriating myself before posting lmao. Basically what I was trying to point out is that it shouldn't take someone 15 minutes to give a simple juice review. Reviews are a great starting point when you are starting out in vaping. It shouldn't take more than a couple minutes at best to say 1. Does it taste as described? 2. Does it have Throat Hit? 3. Show vapour production. And the other part of the rant was supposed to try and explain that the act of vaping is supposed to be about getting away from the cancer sticks and that the chase for the cheapest route to getting your nicotine fix should be the least of anyones concerns when they are starting out. It's not hard to find a kit out there anymore with a single battery, 5 pre-filled carts or cartomizers and a usb charger for under 20 bucks actually. But we all know(experienced vapours)what these things taste and vape like. And at the other end of this is the person who tells every new comer that the only way to nirvana is with their almost $300 mod. I was stating in general that we as a vaping community need to do more to educate people and lead them in the right direction with some honesty about guidance. Let's face it not everyone vapes the same but we all have the same goal.

I hope this somewhat satisfies your quest to know what the hell I was thinking when I posted this drunken tyrade. :)
 
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matt1101

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I've made a few orders on different items this month, and it's still going to cost less than smoking would for me. Where i'm at it's $13.65 a pack. Almost every time I'd grab an energy drink or two, maybe gum if I needed it. So Let's just say $18 per trip to the convenience store.

Add in the new $2 tax they will be passing soon (if it hasn't already?), I'd be looking at $20 a trip.

Initial purchases is at $300, so it's still 1/2 of what I paid. The kits, juice and accessories I ordered were ones I read about on this forum (the canadian and ECF as a whole). I did go a bit overboard, but it's been fun and exciting.

I'm pretty much set on batteries for (my guess) three months. Juice for 2 months, though I'll probably order more to try out some new flavours.

I've been able to stay out of the wind and cold also, which is a huge benefit.

Given I was a PAD smoker, I will not spend 7320 on cigarettes and impulse purchases at the macs this year.

I've used it to give up cigarettes so far, which I wasn't able to achieve with cold turkey and other nicotine replacement products. I'm not sure where e-cigs fall when it comes to NRT, but it's an amazing alternative which as helped me a great deal at least, to be healthier.
 

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My experience is completely different than yours apparently as I find vaping to be a great deal less expensive than cigarettes. I spend approximately $40 a month on a good vendor for liquid and supplies. Yes, I spent about $400 in the first couple of months looking for what I like, which exceeded my smoking habit. However once I found what worked I use one vendor almost exclusively for liquid and another for hardware. While I do agree that cost is secondary to feeling healthier, it is a factor for me and I don't mind sharing it.

Secondly, to all those who are kind enough to share your opinions of liquids, please continue to tell us if you like them, along with ANYTHING you think is relevant. Unlike Bluemaster I find them very helpful. NO I don't always agree with you but as I became familiar with your tastes compared to what worked for me, I am able to decide if I want to try something new that you may recommend.

Finally Bluemaster, I don't know how old you are but you could use a lesson in manners. Telling people to F off, etc in a post is uncalled for and rude. Blaming it on a drunken tyrade does not excuse rudeness, it simply shows immaturity. If you don't choose to drink responsibly that is your business; however do us all a favor and keep it off the forum please!
 

Bluesmaster75

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Finally Bluemaster, I don't know how old you are but you could use a lesson in manners. Telling people to F off, etc in a post is uncalled for and rude. Blaming it on a drunken tyrade does not excuse rudeness, it simply shows immaturity. If you don't choose to drink responsibly that is your business; however do us all a favor and keep it off the forum please!

I didn't tell anyone to "F" off. This is a problem sometimes when people read things instead of hearing it. I said "f" off in the context of "gimme a break","quit wasting my time". I appreciate your comments but I still stand by what i said regardless of how I said it initially or the second time in more of the manner you would like to see. But if I was guilty of breaking any rules here I am yet to be notified. And quite honestly you should learn to be less judgemental(do us all a favour ;) ). I didn't know i was being irresponsible by enjoying myself with a bunch of drinks in my own home and sharing my thoughts on a public forum. Happy Vaping one and all. :)
 

Toronto_Mike

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There are plenty of great arguments in this post & I have to agree with Bluesmaster that there will be a huge investment in cash to startup & really, your extended life may be the only return you will recieve. You can't put a price on that! For all of us it's a huge learning curve that costs money. Everyone will be different. Some will be ok with the basics & some will be proned to keep trying new things in hopes of finding a sweetspot. Lets face it with numerous makes & models out there, it's tempting. In my opinion, no manufactureer have a perfect product - they all have a short life or lack something. There is huge market for the 501 but it's not for everyone. I think as more new products hit the shelves, prices will fall even further, products will improve & there will be less of a learning curve. Only time will tell. For the newbies like me - Use the first year as a year for transition & don't worry about the costs, so much - you owe it to yourself, you beat cigarettes & deserve all the rewards.
 

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E-Cigs save lives. Regardless of the cost or the growing pains associated with it nobody can disagree.

Quote from OP

‘If it's not the same for you, and you would continue to smoke if it was cheaper then at that point there's not much more to say’

When I first considered the e-cig as an alternative to analogs I didn’t even consider the money. I wanted to quit smoking because I knew that if I continued smoking it would someday kill me. In fact, I am pretty sure that I would be dead now if I continued using analogs.

I am not even sure if I know what the point of the OP is. It seems to me that the OP is attempting to dissuade people from using the e-cig.

Now, everyone is entitled to their opinion but the OP and anyone who agrees with the OP is wrong.

Yip, most of us start off on the wrong foot when we first start. And most of us at some point spend too much money on equipment and juice.
I started with the piece of junk Green Smoke starter kit and used it exclusively for 2 months. Regardless of how much the kit and cartos cost, the green smoke got me off cigs. I got the kit mid-week. On that Friday, I finished my last analog around noon and started using the kit. I never looked back.

Then I discovered the ECF. My next kit was the 510 and atomizers. This kept me going until I could afford the eGo.

Initially, I spent a lot of bucks on e-cig parts and juices. I bought stuff that didn’t work for me or didn’t work properly.
I was upset; I thought what a waste of money. But you move forward, you stay off the analogs, you try something new to ensure that you live until you are old and grey. You ask for advice on ECF and read through the threads. You try this and try that. Eventually you will get something that works for you.

Now that I have beaten my addiction to analogs, I can now say that I have beaten my addiction to being a vaping nitwit.
I know what works for me and order only what I need.

I mix my own nic juice. This way, if I don’t like it I have nobody to blame but myself.
Mixing your own also has the added benefit of defining the nic content of the juice.
Proud to say that I only vape 12 mg/ml e-juice. Soon it will be less than 12.

I use the Essence line of flavourings from www.happyvaper.com

I order the nic component of my e-juice primarily from a local distributor.

I use the eGo type batteries. (3) eGo 650 mAh batts in rotation are more than enough to keep me going during the day, no need for mods or the desire to get a mod. I did purchase (2) of the Revolutions about 2 months ago. Needless to say this system does not work for me, however it does work just fine as an extra battery.

The only ‘fascination’ I have these days with e-cigs is with the cartos. I am always on the lookout for the next/best one. For me this is probably the most important component of the e-cig. Currently, I use the Fluxomizer Deluxe Cartos from www.gotvapes.com

ECF is like the AA for people who want to quit analogs.
Most of us, including the suppliers, are here to help out.

To quit costs money, to live costs money. If anybody gets into vaping to save money they need to have a visit from the Adjustment Bureau.
The savings will come over the long term.

I have been analog free for 2 years & 4 months.
 

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I think with a bit of self control its absolutely possible to save money. Take a look at my sig. At that I have 2 roughstacks (a short and a maxi, though the short collects dust), 4 sets of batteries, my ego starter kit, about 40 cartomizers, a dcc tank, misc atties and bits, and enough juice to last me halfway through next month. Did I mention $100 of that is in a gift card I haven't used yet? If you go out blowing money like a clot, yeah you can overspend easily. But exercise a bit of common sense and self control and its really quite easy
 

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A couple new members were snatched volley-style by yours truly looking for smaller kits;

At least one understood what I tried to explain and got an eGoVV and an extremvizion as his 1st kit (+juice)...I have yet to have any feedback from it but I bet he will be pleased and wont look back at other options he was confronted with :)

I am trying to steer peeps to what would work right away but in the end,most like to cautiously approach vaping/quitting analogs and take baby steps...with reason!
 

JQside

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Main reason why newcomers insist on slim e-cigs is because they think it will just be temporary. Once they're able to quit smoking they'll eventually give up e-cigs as well. And they'll live happily ever after. They also have high expectations such as telling themselves this wonderful cig look-alike has been invented, ie, as small as it is it's battery will last awhile and one cart is truly equivalent to ten cigs or so, it will taste like the real one, etc. Little did they know that none of that is true. Thing about it also is that chain-vaping is likely because you'll try to trick yourself into thinking it's a real cig and try hard to make the experience as real as possible. Result: battery lasts an hour or less, not to mention constant refilling. Even then you'll still try to look for better slims and convinced you just picked up the wrong slim.

So here's my advise to newcomers: Save yourself time and money. (Time because online shopping is different from walmart shopping.) Get one and only one slim kit just for the purpose of experiencing it, then go for the bigger ones. Believe me, e-cigs won't be temporary.
 

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I agree with some of this post. I do make my own juice, but spend a whole lot of money on PV purchases, attys and cartos, tanks and drip tips. I do believe that a lot of newcomers are receiving good info on this forum as they are frequently told to go with an ego or riva quite often. As for the assumption that forum members lie about how much it costs to vape, not sure where you got that information from and that seems to be a harsh blanket statement that discredits a whole lot of selfless service many members honestly and righteously provide to newcomers.
 

TonyTT

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When somebody first told me about electronic cigarettes, a couple months ago, They were talking about the cheap nic less non-reuseable ones you buy at the gas station. I got interested and jumped the gun and bought two starter kits of E9s. Thankfully HC stopped them and I never got them. So I did more research and got 510s, which I'm still currently on and in a few days I will finally have saved enough money for the provari I want. I've only been at this for 3 weeks but it has been constant research and constant revisits to the drawing board and asking around. If I could list some of my failures in the last three weeks:
-Ordering E9s
-Not knowing about HC's nic restrictions
-510-t tank system flaws
-PG/VG ratios being important for the tank system
-Ordering Nic less juice, assuming that I would want to vape zero nic in between needing my fix

I've gone through the stages just like every new beginner has, wanting a analog replacement, to wanting something more. And everytime I've had a question, the first thing I've always gotten is everyone has different needs. I've wasted in excess of 200 dollars before understanding that I wanted a provari, and at this point I'm not even sure, I guess I'll find out.

The point of this story is that in the last three weeks I was obsessed. I scoured every forum and barked up every tree and troubleshot every problem. When my friends come to me and tell me their interested, I send them info to read, videos to watch, and all in all, I find their level of dedication quite unimpressive. I tell them the first thing they should do is join ECF, and they never do.

Despite how fun vaping is and what we do here, alot of my friends fail to comprehend that it is quitting, and it does require work. You want members to cut the bull...., but I think being able to cut your own bull.... as a newbie is important as well.

You gotta want to find the answers yourself and when a person whines to me that they don't wanna spend the money, when I know they spend 12 bucks every 1-2 days on smokes, I kind of roll my eyes.
 
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