Let's make a list of juices/flavors that crack tanks, ce2's/clearos...

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anglsage

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I just bought my first tank a few days ago and only use vapor renu liquids. Thanks for the heads up! I'll post here if I find any juices that are incompatible with my tank. I got the smoktech dct. Looks like I may just have to invest in a more sturdy one. I thought I was done buying for a while. Bah! :blink: oh well :vapor:
 

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I just ordered a couple of new juices which I believe will be safe, but I thought I'd check this thread to be on the safe side. It would be nice if this thread were stickied with an updated list to make it easier to find. I know it's easy enough to replace the tubing if it cracks, but would rather not have to go through the hassle.

Anglsage, I notice you are also from Tulsa. There seem to be more and more of us here. :) If you haven't done so already, you might want to check out our thread Okie Vapers
 

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My tank has a polycarbonate tube and with it I got some root beer juice. I used it and had no problem. Granted it was only 1ml but I liked it so much that I ordered some flavor to DIY it. It should be here tomorrow. People on UK Vapers just love the little mama tanks and keep telling me to get one so I took a closer look. From this very thread they have the list and TPA Root Beer is on it. Did I make yet another mistake?

I ordered from The Perfume Apprentice. On the bottles they sold me last time the label says Flavor Apprentice. I seek them out cause that's exactly what SVC gave me with my tank. Did they just throw me under the bus with a known defect? This is confusing.
 

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All I can say is that I've heard that some root beer flavorings can crack a tank. I'm not sure which ones. I am a big fan of BWB root beer and have put a ton of it through my tanks with no problems whatsoever. I'm not sure what brand of flavoring they use, but I can say that some root beer flavors are perfectly safe with tanks.
 

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All I can say is that I've heard that some root beer flavorings can crack a tank. I'm not sure which ones. I am a big fan of BWB root beer and have put a ton of it through my tanks with no problems whatsoever. I'm not sure what brand of flavoring they use, but I can say that some root beer flavors are perfectly safe with tanks.
Well that really stinks. I get turned on to a juice that will kill my tank by the people that sold it to me. Just great. I wana be done with this vaping crap. Its one annoyance after another.
 

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UPDATE

My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to crack. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/259319-heres-pic-my-polypropylene-tank.html

The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing, and they come in 8 colors. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. These tanks can be used with most XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto.

There is also a thread here on ecf which will show you how to make your own "syringe tank mod". http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...756-homemade-syringe-tank-mod-looks-easy.html

Also, bear in mind that different vendors may use different ingredients to make the same flavors. So, a flavored e juice you get from one vendor that is safe for yout tank may not be safe from another vendor, or vice versa. For instance, I have no trouble at all with VaporGod strawberry kiwi, but Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake will probably crack a polycarbonate tank. Also, just because a certain juice may crack my polycarbonate tank, it may not crack yours. I don't know why... Clear as mud, huh?

Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

Any juice that has:

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake, snickerdoodle
KBV Hummingbird nectar
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Vapor Renu Teaberry, cherry vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew baha blast and Strawberry limeade
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake
Nutmeg
Clove oil
Mt. Dew flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
Sassafras
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
Vaporgod Licorice
VAL Goddess
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Alien Vision's Pineapple Pulp
ECBlend's Gingerbread, double flavor
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime


Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out.

With so many folks using tanks nowadays, let's all contribute here!!

Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.
 
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Here is a list of juices I have used that did NOT crack my stardust. (all are 12mg nic)

Vaporbomb - Watermelon (~2 tanks worth)
Vaporbomb - Strawberry (~3 tanks worth)
Vaporbomb - Wild Cherry (only ran 1 tank of this, didnt like it)
Vaporbomb - New Melon (~3 tanks worth)
EC Blend - Dragons Blood (1 tank, then put up to steep a bit more)
Vapornine - Carolina Tobacco (1 tank worth)
Currently vaping a mix of the Vaporbomb strawberry & watermelon. (on 2nd tank now)

Will update if anything cracks it and also as I try other flavors. I know you were asking what cracks it but figured people may want to know what they can use without trouble.
 

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Can we not just get the industry to agree on using polyethylene tubing so that there are no cracking issues with any flavors? Seems like it's the tank's materials that are at fault more so than the liquids.

I was using a ST 7ML tank with ST dual coil cartos for like 2 months and never had a single cracking issue with any of our juices.

Sure enough I got a new tank that I ordered from someone on ECF and within 24 hours that tank cracked. It's kind of the tanks fault, hate to say it.

And yes, Ripe Banana definitely seems to cause cracking, probably because it has sour notes. In my opinion though all tanks should be using PE grade plastic to avoid this issue, if you're buying something thats NOT using this plastic, they're a bit behind on the curve at this point I feel.
 
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If i'm unsure of a juice, I just squeeze a drop onto a blank cd, they are made from polycarbonate.

Seems like a good idea, but the percentage of polycarbonate would be different in the cd vs the tank. There are other compounds involved in cd's that the tanks don't contain. I think you are onto something tho. There must be an alternative source of the same polycarbonate to use for "testing".

I would suppose that one should factor in the heating of the juice to vapor as well when performing these tests.
 
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