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XfooYen

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I'm on it thx. I got a first gen aga but I wanna wait till the T2's get here. Wanna be able to match up wick to air hole. But I'll def get that 28g


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The 1st gen AGA wick hole is larger than the T2. The air holes are too small on all of them imo. I open them up to 1/16 and it's perfect. Airy, but not too much. Tons of vapor.
 

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VAMO in transit!!!

BTW, I am planning on using the batts from my Young June Lavatube. They are flat tops. I saw nowhere that says I cannot use the flat tops (18650). Can anyone verify this?

If this VAMO is acceptable, I will probably use it as my PV when I leave the house and keep Ida at home in bare feet. :D

The Vamo will accept both flat top or button top. There was a loose bat issue with the flat tops but I think the newer big spring fixed that.
 

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VAMO in transit!!!

BTW, I am planning on using the batts from my Young June Lavatube. They are flat tops. I saw nowhere that says I cannot use the flat tops (18650). Can anyone verify this?

If this VAMO is acceptable, I will probably use it as my PV when I leave the house and keep Ida at home in bare feet. :D

Yea, the vamo can use flat tops.

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VAMO in transit!!!

BTW, I am planning on using the batts from my Young June Lavatube. They are flat tops. I saw nowhere that says I cannot use the flat tops (18650). Can anyone verify this?

If this VAMO is acceptable, I will probably use it as my PV when I leave the house and keep Ida at home in bare feet. :D

Discount Vapers sells magnets you can put in them flat tips for that reason if they don't work.


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Any comparison between the AGA-T and the DID (other than RTD charges $7 more for the AGA-T)?

The aga and did your probably talking about are different diameters. Aga is bigger diameter like provari and did that they sell on the sites is the mini one. Bout diameter of an ego bat.


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Any comparison between the AGA-T and the DID (other than RTD charges $7 more for the AGA-T)?

The key functions for all genesis attys are the same. SS wick, coil, positive and negative connections, tank, and top cap with air hole. The nuances of each will be slightly different. The wick holes bight be different sizes. The air holes might be higher or lower, bigger or smaller. The tanks can be solid ss or glass. The end result is always dependent on how you build your wick and coils, and what you use for power. If you can't decide on one or the other, get the one that looks the nicest for your mod and try to find a review on it to see if there's any red flags that would prevent you from purchasing it. I hear the DiD clones are pretty good. The AGA-T2 is a solid performer. Either way, you're going to hate it until you get the hang of building coils. So the question should be; Which device don't you mind staring back at you while you glare at it out of frustration? ;)
 

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The key functions for all genesis attys are the same. SS wick, coil, positive and negative connections, tank, and top cap with air hole. The nuances of each will be slightly different. The wick holes bight be different sizes. The air holes might be higher or lower, bigger or smaller. The tanks can be solid ss or glass. The end result is always dependent on how you build your wick and coils, and what you use for power. If you can't decide on one or the other, get the one that looks the nicest for your mod and try to find a review on it to see if there's any red flags that would prevent you from purchasing it. I hear the DiD clones are pretty good. The AGA-T2 is a solid performer. Either way, you're going to hate it until you get the hang of building coils. So the question should be; Which device don't you mind staring back at you while you glare at it out of frustration? ;)

That's as good a criteria as any X. Truthfully, I am not even remotely intimidated by any of it. I fully expect issues to start. That's the fun in them...trying to conquer them. How are the rebuildables for flavor changeovers?
 

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The Vamo is set at the same PWM frequency. You might as well give it a try. There aren't any current PWM devices at higher frequencies. The Vamo will probably feel warmer than the Provari but it shouldn't burn the juice. Make sure you set it to use V-RMS by holding down either + or - button for ten seconds until you see " N02". Keep it on that setting and leave it there. The Vamo remembers that setting even after battery removal but it arrives in V-AVG (N01) mode by default.

Xfoo, are you saying the Vamo is set at the same PWM frequency as the Provari or the LavaTube?

Vamo is VW indeed. Just for clarification, Vamo and Provari doesn't have the same frequency, it's 33Hz vs Provari 800Hz.
AFAIK, all of the Chiness VV VW's are 33Hz.

Blix, Thanks that's what I thought because Xfoo mentioned that there weren't any devices at higher frequencies (except Provari). Thus a significant factor in Provari's higher price. Just wanted clarification as some of us folks may not have caught that.

I think you're mixing two different things Chak. I'm not an electrical engineer, but PWM is PWM and frequency refers to the "refresh" rate. It's similar to your TV screen refreshing itself. The picture is not constant like people think. It is actually giving you a new picture 60 times a second (if it is a 60Hz set). That's how come you see seamless motion. The higher the Hz the more seamless it is. But there is a point at which the human eye cannot notice the difference.

Bronze, I am not an electrical engineer either, however, I am an electrical technician. Xfoo was talking about Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) "switching" frequency used to control the power output. The average value of voltage (and current) fed to the load is controlled by turning the switch between supply and load on and off at a fast pace. The longer the switch is on compared to the off periods, the higher the power supplied to the load is. How many times that switch is turn on and off is the called the switching frequency.

The Vamo is the same freq as the YJ LavaTube. 33.3Hz


Yes. It's either and very easy to switch from vv to vw. Hold both + and - buttons for 5 sec to toggle.

Do you ever use the VW mode?

The clarification part was to Chakris. :)

Thanks again, Blix.

I do. After using both for a while, there's not much difference. If you know your preferred voltages and you know the ohm's law conversion in your head, then vv is trusty. VW is solid but if I need to fine tune a flavor, I switch over to vv. It's nice having the option. VW is more of a set-it-and-forget-it thing. VV is more of a sweet-spot finder. The good thing about VW is you can go from a 3ohm carto to a 1.5ohm Nova without changing anything, and the output will be constant.

I also tend to use VV more than VW because I like to fine tune the voltage to find that sweet-spot for a particular juice. With the Vamo in VW mode, you can vary the wattage in increments of .5 watts compared to increments of .1 volts in VV mode.
 
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Thanks for the clarification Chak. Some people refer to Hz as the "frequency".

You're quite right, Bronze. Frequency is measured in Hz. Switching Frequency of 33.3 Hz = 33.3 cycles per second; 800 Hz = 800 cycles per second. The difference is in what is being changed (frequented); is it power being turned on and off, or current alternating between pos + and neg - , or a computer monitor being refreshed?
 

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You're quite right, Bronze. Frequency is measured in Hz. Switching Frequency of 33.3 Hz = 33.3 cycles per second; 800 Hz = 800 cycles per second. The difference is in what is being changed (frequented); is it power being turned on and off, or current alternating between pos + and neg - , or a computer monitor being refreshed?

It's a direct current being turned on and off. The 33Hz mods have a cycle peak of 6 volts no matter what the voltage setting of the device. The duty cycles are changed so the V-RMS (voltage-root mean square) is calculated to equal the mod's voltage setting. That's why people perceive these devices as firing hotter than say, the Provari. That's because in essence it's true, in that it is always firing at 6 volts, just at different cycles.
 

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*waves Vamo at thread*

Haven't posted here yet. I'm still stuck on my T3s. I really like the bottom feeding aspect of them, but get better flavor out of T2s when I keep them full. There is more of a wick taste in the T3s (three air holes) after they get half way full.

I'd use T2s exclusively if I didn't always realize I need to wet the wick during my chain vape sessions because I just got another dry hit. I wish the original T3s were still available. I hear they were better than the ones with three air holes.
 

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*waves Vamo at thread*

Haven't posted here yet. I'm still stuck on my T3s. I really like the bottom feeding aspect of them, but get better flavor out of T2s when I keep them full. There is more of a wick taste in the T3s (three air holes) after they get half way full.

I'd use T2s exclusively if I didn't always realize I need to wet the wick during my chain vape sessions because I just got another dry hit. I wish the original T3s were still available. I hear they were better than the ones with three air holes.
Jam a wood toothpick in one of the air holes and break it off. You can also rebuild the coils using cotton which should taste better than the silica.
 

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Jam a wood toothpick in one of the air holes and break it off. You can also rebuild the coils using cotton which should taste better than the silica.

Interesting. I mean, I enjoy airy draws, but the plastic/wick taste can get in the way. I guess maybe it's a trade off. I'll have to do some experimentation. Thx!
 

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Interesting. I mean, I enjoy airy draws, but the plastic/wick taste can get in the way. I guess maybe it's a trade off. I'll have to do some experimentation. Thx!

I got 2 of the mini T3's to give em a shot since they use the same heads. And I also got some 1.8 ohm heads for it. They have been performing great for me thru about 2 fills. And with the 1.8 coils it seems to run beautifully. My reg T3's were running crazy


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Okay, just got this in the mail:

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Mine had a little problem between the stem where the coil and wick sits and the base, no contact on the positive, but I got that sorted.

First impression after half a ml:

Seems nice and solid with all stainless steel metal parts, nice weight. A lot of wick going on in it with the dual coils(measured resistance 2.1Ω)
Love the swivel drip tip(not changeable though)

As I'm putting this one up against a Vivi Nova, I chose an e-juice I know I can barely taste in a VN, HHV Nice Pear.
NP is awesome in a Genesis, nice real pear taste.
Put it on my Vamo, watts at 7.5 and vaped. Expected to be disappointed.

I wasn't.

Nice rich pear taste! Excellent actually, and upping the watts to 13,5 watts made it even better. Being dual coil it takes plenty wattage without tasting burnt as the heat is spread out on two sets of coils.

Also get a nice nic buzz after a few draws, so it seems really effective in delivering the goods. :)
Draw is tight-ish, which I like. Spot on for me.

This blows the sucky Vivi Novas out of the water on all counts, hope this positive impression lasts.

Highly recommend!
 
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Okay, just got this in the mail:

20130119221458773.jpg


Mine had a little problem between the stem where the coil and wick sits and the base, no contact on the positive, but I got that sorted.

First impression after half a ml:

Seems nice and solid with all stainless steel metal parts, nice weight. A lot of wick going on in it with the dual coils(measured resistance 2.1Ω)
Love the swivel drip tip(not changeable though)

As I'm putting this one up against a Vivi Nova, I chose an e-juice I know I can barely taste in a VN, HHV Nice Pear.
NP is awesome in a Genesis, nice real pear taste.
Put it on my Vamo, watts at 7.5 and vaped. Expected to be disappointed.

I wasn't.

Nice rich pear taste! Excellent actually, and upping the watts to 13,5 watts made it even better. Being dual coil it takes plenty wattage without tasting burnt as the heat is spread out on two sets of coils.

Also get a nice nic buzz after a few draws, so it seems really effective in delivering the goods. :)
Draw is tight-ish, which I like. Spot on for me.

This blows the sucky Vivi Novas out of the water on all counts, hope this positive impression lasts.

Highly recommend!

Where did you get these from? I was looking for them and not paired with the SVD. Lemme know


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