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Re edited the " negatives " again...

Going to stick with a tad heavy 9 oz with battery no atty and screen stays lit when connected to usb
When I weighed it with the provided tank (full) and an 18650, I got about 12 ounces. My Kanger KBox 120 with Monster V3, and 2 18650 batteries weighs 9 ounces.

This is a solid feeling mod.
 

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When I weighed it with the provided tank (full) and an 18650, I got about 12 ounces. My Kanger KBox 120 with Monster V3, and 2 18650 batteries weighs 9 ounces.

This is a solid feeling mod.

Agreed very solid unit.. I was just comparing to weight of some other mods I have with this being a tad heavier. Not a complaint of mine just pointing it out.
I am hard pressed to find any negatives with this mod... moved to front of my line going to be all day mod for quite awhile
 

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Yes I did... but I have not played with it yet. Wanted to test for a full day using the same atty I have been using for a while to see how it preformed on the knight
I didn't put the Charon on the Knight. Instead, I built the RBA and put it up on my iStick 100. They took the best of the Crius and the best of the SMOK TFV4, and mashed 'em together. At present, the only thing I'm not liking is the color of the o-rings... How nit-picky is that?
 

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I think this looks better. I might be concerned that e-liquid or drool might make its way through the vent holes. Either way we have a choice.

Drool, dahlink? Oh my.



Mine showed up 1 day early...

Tiny, yet sturdy feeling (320+ grams with a full tank and 18650). This Smoant Knight V1 60 W TC mod (Ni200, Ti, SS) with the Kanger Subtank compatible, top-filling Talos V1 tank showed up for review today. So far - about 1/2 an hour - I'm really liking it.

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Geeze, Shawn, that DOES look quite nice! KatApproved so far. :thumb:



I've got to say that I thought the placement was odd when I saw the xvo stick, and it is one of the most comfortable mods that I own.

So does quite a bit of the mod stick up out of your hand, or u fire with pinky/ring finger? Or neither?


Hoot, like most here, when I first saw the XVO, I was a "no". I saw the button placement and that became my first and sole question about it.

Now that I own and use them regularly, it's become a no-brainer. Right hand, left hand, trigger fire, thumb fire, or even PALM fire. Any way you pick it up, it just works, and works so well!

It's an oddity for sure, but the buttons are of ZERO concern. I 'promise' you that!

That's why I'd have to get used to the button placement. I'm a thumb firer. The button placement does look awkward for that.

You'll be fine. Honest sweetie. :)




So when I change the screen position, do I need to make a face? ;)



When I weighed it with the provided tank (full) and an 18650, I got about 12 ounces. My Kanger KBox 120 with Monster V3, and 2 18650 batteries weighs 9 ounces.

This is a solid feeling mod.


Solid, eh? Euphemism for heavy? :D
 

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I don't mind playing guinea. I'm just not excited to pay for the privilege. :D

The initial idea behind TC was to protect us from overheating our vliquid to avoid nasty byproducts. It is believed that PG/VG start producing the nasties around 700F +/-. We're still waiting on Dr. Farsalinos' latest results, however. You can overheat practically any atty. We may discover that many of us enjoy vaping at temperatures that exceed 700F at the coil. Some may be fine taking the higher risk; others may not. It's still certainly much
less harmful than sucking on the cancer sticks. My current stand is based on anecdotal observations, discussions and my own experience. That's why I'm looking forward to more science.

Hohmtech is stealing a cue from the IT world. Network techs and engineers send a tiny packet of info to a destination, usually a server. They measure how long it takes to arrive and return to its origination. We call this "pinging". It tells us geeks lots of things about the speed, strength, timing and integrity of the network signal.

Hohmtech is using the knowledge that the said "ping" timing changes with the temperature of the circuit, in this case our coils. A ping is sent through our coil and the speed is measured. With algorithms and some fast, basic learning, the mod uses this info to control the temperature. It can theoretically be used with practically any known metal. I believe it has greater potential for TC than using measured resistance. We'll see how it plays out.

Does this help?

Yes, that answers some of my still-forming questions. I do like this idea of pinging the temp tho. That seems to be as advanced as we've become in this new arena, and I'm truly liking the tech of it.

When one is using an atty, be it any (non-TC) atty, there's no way to test the temperature, correct? So how do we know if/when we're overheating one?


Oh, and I :wub: geeks.


Talk nerdy to me? ;)
 

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Take it with a grain of salt..... (seems about right to me) in the little bit of conversations I have had with smoant... They state they have been reading the ecf forum and rather than just copy other people's devices they tried to make them similar but improved.

So far I think they have done a great job
 

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My only regret ... I came close to buying a used Fulgoris dna40 but the seller backed out so still no evolve dna40 here to compare chips with china chips
The knight v1 chip is much better than the xvo clone chip... more power it just creates a fuller vape. And I did like my xvo clones alot till this mod arrived.

So how it compares to an evolve dna40... I can't comment....

As soon as I receive email from 101vape I will order a black knight v1...maybe 2
Knight V1 60 Watt Side-by-Side TC Pocket Box Mod by Smoant - 101 Vape
 

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That's why I'd have to get used to the button placement. I'm a thumb firer. The button placement does look awkward for that.
I'm a thumb fire guy too.

Except with the Xvo, which has topped all for me now, in this regard.
 

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Drool, dahlink? Oh my.





Geeze, Shawn, that DOES look quite nice! KatApproved so far. :thumb:








Hoot, like most here, when I first saw the XVO, I was a "no". I saw the button placement and that became my first and sole question about it.

Now that I own and use them regularly, it's become a no-brainer. Right hand, left hand, trigger fire, thumb fire, or even PALM fire. Any way you pick it up, it just works, and works so well!

It's an oddity for sure, but the buttons are of ZERO concern. I 'promise' you that!



You'll be fine. Honest sweetie. :)




So when I change the screen position, do I need to make a face? ;)






Solid, eh? Euphemism for heavy? :D
Yes, uh huh, si, da, jah, hai

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My only regret ... I came close to buying a used Fulgoris dna40 but the seller backed out so still no evolve dna40 here to compare chips with china chips
The knight v1 chip is much better than the xvo clone chip... more power it just creates a fuller vape. And I did like my xvo clones alot till this mod arrived.

So how it compares to an evolve dna40... I can't comment....

As soon as I receive email from 101vape I will order a black knight v1...maybe 2
Knight V1 60 Watt Side-by-Side TC Pocket Box Mod by Smoant - 101 Vape
Based on the glowing reviews, I'm confident that someone will soon be able to provide that comparison for you, Rick. Maybe even TWO.

Or THREE!
 

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Hohmtech is using the knowledge that the said "ping" timing changes with the temperature of the circuit, in this case our coils. A ping is sent through our coil and the speed is measured. With algorithms and some fast, basic learning, the mod uses this info to control the temperature. It can theoretically be used with practically any known metal. I believe it has greater potential for TC than using measured resistance. We'll see how it plays out.

One of the limitations of using resistance change to determine temperature change is the resistance changes very slightly. It is difficult to operate at such high resolution and any small wander in the resistance from sub optimum connections plays havoc with the sensing.

I expect Holmtech will have great challenges with the timing resolution needed to detect and measure "ping" speed changes over temperature. And there is still the issue of baseline calibration aka how long and hot is your wire before we start firing.

Good on Holmtech for having an original idea, hope it works.
 

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