Looking for a durable variable wattage
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The I taste vtr holds up good goes up to 15w mine has met the concrete floor many times and still going strong. I am currently trying out the elvt 2.0 30 watt mod to see how that does. The vtr I think is around $90 or so bought mine last year so I may be wrong and the elvt 2.0 I got from fasttech for like $55
See I really hate box mods because of how bulky they are. Should've mentioned that. Sorry
A blemished provari of the non p3 variety?
Where the market is right now, regulated tubes are a little sparse.
Maybe the new SVD 2?
Where the market is right now, regulated tubes are a little sparse.
Maybe the new SVD 2?
I do like the SVD 2.0 Now that I looked at it, I was thinking a Vamo but I HATE the bottom open channel of a Vamo cause hair and dust collects down there. The flat tops are -really- nice for keeping clean. Anyone else have other recommendations?
Edit: Tube mod vs Box mod, what the devils the difference?
Edit: Tube mod vs Box mod, what the devils the difference?
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The differences are in the eye of the beholder. Back even 8-10 months ago, tubes were where most of the innovation was. Now, it's all about the box.
Have you held a box mod? They are often smaller than they appear - especially something like the iStick which is tiny - but it does seem a little fragile.
As for durable - as previously mentioned a Provari 2.5 blem would be a good investment. They are still available and are probably the most durable APV out there. I know $130 is expensive and it's VV only, but if you are really as hard on your equipment as you say you are, it's a great option.
The only other recommendation I have for you is another box - a REO VV. No wattage adjustment on this one either, but it's made from a solid block of aluminum. Only problem would be finding one. I've seen them here on the classifieds a couple of times - they tend to sell for around $140-160.
I have a non VV version of the REO that has been dropped, kicked, trod on, dropped out of a truck window, scraped and abused - but it has never let me down.
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Ususally the chipset. Most DNA devices are boxes just because of ease to build. However, many people (my self included) like the yihi sx chips better. The IPV2 is my favorite mod right now.
As far as bulky goes, it won't turn awkwardly in your pocket like a tube can, and it's easier to sit on a table. So, it's give and take. I also like that regulated box mods are shorter than regulated tube mods, so a drip tip isn't poking out of my pocket, but don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see ya
If it's 150 or less, I'm good, I just have a hard time justifying 250 bucks for a Variable Wattage, that doesn't come with a Battery, a charger, a tank, nothing just the mod. I've never held a box before, and I don't drop my stuff -too- often but I am one of those people that thinks just because I haven't doesn't mean I won't. I'm willing to pay more for peace of mind, than I am for flash or panache. If the price is justified in the quality then I am like GREAT but 130 bucks for a blemished VV? No way. Not when there are mods like the Vamo that are 50-70 and stainless and do VW, Or the SVD 2.0 thats pricey but durable. So if boxes are more fragile than tubes, then nay nay on them.
bottom open channel? you mean the topcap area with the 510/eGo connector?
btw, the way to use that is you screw the topper down till it just makes contact, then unscrew the mod topcap upwards to press firmly upwards onto the topper.
It's purpose is physical/mechanical, but anyway, no hair and dust will collect there while topper is properly connected, but I guess stuff could collect there if the thing sits open for six months, buy then you just unscrew the topcap off and wipe with some toilet paper.
For durability you could always get a mech ... with a kick.
If more people start getting kick modules, maybe we would see less mods coming out and more kicks instead, so you could get the mod you really want and just pop one kick or the other in it.
Box mods are solid aluminum. Not fragile. I think he was referring to the istick as fragile.
And type the words "Vamo threads" in google real quick. Not a rock solid mod. If you're nice to it, it will be nice to you.
And type the words "Vamo threads" in google real quick. Not a rock solid mod. If you're nice to it, it will be nice to you.
Among other things I have two Vamos and a Provari 2.5. The vamos have been kind to me on the whole - and yes I've dropped them a couple of times too and they still work. Well, one came with a damaged 510 connector that never worked correctly and the other has a wonky screen and a button that works most of the time, but they both still vape after more than a year.
If you think a Vamo or an SVD is up to the task and will fit your needs than great, they are good APVs that mostly work well. Your original post asked about durable mods - I just wouldn't say they are particularly durable.
Finally of course only you can decide what meets your needs. I'd recommend a visit to the APV forums here on ECF. It'll give you a chance to read about what issues and opinions people have on every APV out there - might give you some more ideas.
A tube is the natural form factor for the shape of the battery.
For a regulated mod, you have to have somewhere to put the electronics; putting it on top the battery ends up making a longer tube; you might end up with a 1 foot long 1 inch thick cigar that you stick in your mouth to take a vape; I guess some people actually like that idea.
Or, you could just put the electronics on the side of the battery; then enclose that in a box.
Then nowadays as demand fuels higher power and longer battery life, the move is towards multiple batteries; if you stack those like in a flashlight, that makes the thing even longer if you're going with the tube form factor, so box becomes inevetable.
I can feel that; once you are used to vaping and in it for the long haul, rid of cigarettes, - and I mean like a year or 2 that you've turned the corner and actually $saved$ some money that you would have been spending ------- that's the time to look at a provari;
meanwhile you could just as well have spent the same money on 2 - I guess even 5 - vamos or svds and therefore have backups and be set for a few years at least anyway.
Have you considered merging the durability of a mech with the ease of changing a Kick module ? 
My first mod was a Sigelei ZMAX. It was really good (albeit a little too large for my taste; I had moved from the "e-Go world"). But, in less than one year, I started having issues with the button - it would frequently misfire.
Later, I bought a Roller by Atmizzo. It's much smaller (I valued that), quite sturdy, durable, and easily repairable (can be totally disassembled and properly cleaned, lots od spare parts if needed - never used one still). The idea of having a softer, copper thread ring (that can be replaced for 4 Eur) in order to PROTECT the steel threading of BOTH the mod and the atomizer was also a great one. Basically, with proper maintenance and some spare parts I believe it can last for years. I have one for an year now, and it's still like new - only replaced the threaded copper ring once. That is meant to protect the threading of your atomizers, making THEM last longer too. And it's "only" around 120 Eur - not cheap, but still cheaper than some other mods.
As for electronics, it works very well with the Kick module, which can be easily replaced if something goes wrong. (That's yet to happen )
No fiddling with chips, no soldering, no buying the whole damn thing all over again - just replace a simple part and problem solved.
Of course, the Kick will not give you VV, or remaining battery charge, or read you resistance, or all those fancy things the Sigelei used to have - but it gives me all the features I valued, anyway: VW, reversed polarity protection, overcurrent protection and overdisharge protection.
Having that setup is like having a small, durable regulated mod with only the most basic (but most important and useful) electronic features.
Just my 2 cents.
My first mod was a Sigelei ZMAX. It was really good (albeit a little too large for my taste; I had moved from the "e-Go world"). But, in less than one year, I started having issues with the button - it would frequently misfire.
Later, I bought a Roller by Atmizzo. It's much smaller (I valued that), quite sturdy, durable, and easily repairable (can be totally disassembled and properly cleaned, lots od spare parts if needed - never used one still). The idea of having a softer, copper thread ring (that can be replaced for 4 Eur) in order to PROTECT the steel threading of BOTH the mod and the atomizer was also a great one. Basically, with proper maintenance and some spare parts I believe it can last for years. I have one for an year now, and it's still like new - only replaced the threaded copper ring once. That is meant to protect the threading of your atomizers, making THEM last longer too. And it's "only" around 120 Eur - not cheap, but still cheaper than some other mods.
As for electronics, it works very well with the Kick module, which can be easily replaced if something goes wrong. (That's yet to happen
)No fiddling with chips, no soldering, no buying the whole damn thing all over again - just replace a simple part and problem solved.
Of course, the Kick will not give you VV, or remaining battery charge, or read you resistance, or all those fancy things the Sigelei used to have - but it gives me all the features I valued, anyway: VW, reversed polarity protection, overcurrent protection and overdisharge protection.
Having that setup is like having a small, durable regulated mod with only the most basic (but most important and useful) electronic features.
Just my 2 cents.
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I sort of agree. You can get a Vamo VV/VW for $25 from FT. It's a deal whichever way you look at it and a low risk purchase too. If it breaks, replace it and you've still spent $70 less than you would have for a Provari.
But The OP asked about a durable mod and specifically referenced the Provari.
If the OP had asked which is the cheapest mod (that performs well) so if it breaks they can just get another, I would have no hesitation in pointing to the Vamo on FT.
When I mentioned the vamo having a place where dirt and dust collects I meant at the top where the tank would sit that little "moat" or channel. My current apv is a Lavatube 2.5 it's nice but I want more. I recently got a Kayfun 3.1 and the lavatube is really picky about ohms so I am looking for something more durable than aluminum, and that can withstand being in a pocket all day and not ruin a tank connector or itself if I accidentally bump my leg into something or slip and fall.
for durability. I would start by looking at only Stainless or brass body tube mods or METAL shelled box mods.
For work use I would go with a simple stainless or brass Mech with a kick.. You don't need adjustability or a digital readout at work. Just a spare battery and you juice. 18650 Mech with a kick will be smaller than nearly any VV/VW mods.
For work use I would go with a simple stainless or brass Mech with a kick.. You don't need adjustability or a digital readout at work. Just a spare battery and you juice. 18650 Mech with a kick will be smaller than nearly any VV/VW mods.
With the IPV3 out, the IPV2 dropped a good bit in price. I really like the features and solidness.
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