I have considered mech boxes as well but I like the idea of a tube though. Its different from what i have currently.
That would be me. I can understand and respect "budgets" but if you can afford the GP PAPS V4 then do it. The "pogo" Gpin means you just screw on your 510 topper and no adjustments are required. It ships with a Gpin for flat tops and includes an extra for button tops. The "switch/lock/fire" is golden. Short throw, no accidental unscrewing, it just works. Ideally suited for a beginner or pro. I don't mean to sound like a fan boy as I'm sure some of the clones will work and others have more experience in this area than I do. They have a Forum on ECF where the owner provides great support and the users are very helpful.
Yes, no-centerpin mod is great thanks... Someone, can't remember specifically, some weeks ago used the term pinless-510 mods, which I used if remembered , and is also spot on, I actually preffer that personally...
I don't agree with you guys(some of you, lol) opinion about pinless-mods, and highly prefer them if available for simplicity, and I will not use an atty that dosen't bother making an adjustable 510 or atleast a fixed protruding 510... The smpl is imho the greatest design i've ever seen in a tube, but hey, thats just me... I also only use 18650's and highly prefer one 18650 tube again for simplicy/cleaning, but of course respect that others are different...
If a mod is great, then I can live with a regular 510 obviously and "split-mid-tubes"...
(I agree, btw)
Sorry for missing the point, then
I don't agree with you on that, though...
I don't see it as irresponsible... As said, my first mechs where smpl's, and the OP talked in his first post about getting maybe a smpl and knowing the dangers and needing fixed protruding 510 pins...
When I got my smpl, I had zero experience, obviously, as it was my first, but I had studied about mechs and pinless-510 mechs for maybe 1 year prior...
If you mean that it's irresponsible to recommend it to someone not bothering doing there homework, or not expressing that they know the dangers up-front and also not expressing wanting one in the first place, then yeah, obviously we can agree on that... Who wouldn't
18650s are seldom exactly 65mm though so it's important to have a possibility for adjustment. As for 18350s, great for stealthy setups and the battery life is decent if the resistance of the coil isn't too low.I mostly agree... I think they were originally made adjustable so people had the flexibility to use button tops. Since no one uses those f$&@king things any more, manufacturers should just go ahead and design around the fact that all 18650's are 65mm long, and build around that. Duh. That's how even the original SMPL still stomps on adjustable 510 mods today.
Atty manufacturers should make all 510 pins protrude enough to be safe in a direct to battery mod. If those two things happened, we could do away with most adjustable 510's.
The oddball vaper who regularly uses 18350's can go ahead and keep their adjustable 510 mods and their select-a-size tubings. The vast majority of us have been over those after that first lousy 10 min vape session and a dead battery.
You are right. I know more after reading this thread but still do not want to make the news. I am all for safety at this point. Would you recommend a sony vtc5 with the king and the others suggested? Again ty very much for the advice. Going to stop by a local shop as well and continue the research before buying anything.I think we are both making Assumptions.
I'm assuming someone who has never owned a mechanical doesn't have the safe habits developed yet to use a pinless mod safely. Otherwise they probably wouldn't need advice.
You are assuming they do, and have safe habits.
Now I could be wrong, but when giving advice to beginning mech users. I choose to err on the side of safety.
If my assumptions are right, the new user will appreciate not making the news
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