Losing plenty of money vaping

[sidetrack]

There is not a one of us that hasn't made a mistake or a poor purchase. I consider myself one of the lucky ones and I managed to spend $1000.00+ (lots of DIY flavors)in the first 3-4 months. It took me 6 months to break even and now I spend roughly $12.00 per month on hardware and juice. Now, if I change my hardware that all goes out the window but for now I am perfectly happy with my 3.7v 900mah PV and I DIY my own 0mg juice. I figure in two months which will be my anniversary I will have saved $700.00 in my first year of vapeing. Next year will be real cheap if I stick with the same hardware and it will only cost me about $143.00 for the whole year! ...............Notice I keep saying "stick with the same hardware"? I have my eye on a provari as a one year "Happy vape/birthday" present to me. There goes the big savings. I figured my cost will be about $33.00 a month then which is still a heck of a lot better than the $160.00 I was spending on analogs.

 

[Dj Xy]

Basically I check the classies for stuff I may want, watch for sales, trade stuff that I don't use for stuff I will use, and as for venders being out of stock, its happens, most venders work out of there homes, just be patient and they will get stuff back in stock(nitelite is notorious for being out of stock on juices)

 

[BigFatDan]

Frankster,

I used to smoke 6 packs a day. I've purchased a 21.99 starter kit. a 25.99 starter kit a 69.99 starter kit (which sucked) and a 57.99 starter kit and about 35 dollars worth the eLiquid. Also, the 69.99 one was supposed to be returned, so let's not count that.

$140.97 + maybe like 30 bucks in shipping.

Given it costs me $0.70 to $1.00 a pack and I've spent more money. I somehow only manage to vape a couple mLs of liquid per day.


I think you have LKIACSS (Little Kid In A Candy Store Syndrome) You may or may not be buying stuff you don't particularly need.

How many starter kits do you have?
When you bought the juice, did you buy small sample kits? Or did you "try" 30mL bottles of stuff you didn't like?

How much were the carto's per package?

Where were you buying this ....?

$300.00 worth the eJuice from BlueMist Vaping Supplies is over 30 10mL bottles or 8 180mL bottles. I'm sure the website you bought that from jipped you big time. $300 dollars should be over a year's worth of supplies dude.

Add me on skype - Big.Fat.Dan and maybe I can help you through it? You may be able to sell some of the stuff you don't want on this very forum, or even on craig's list. I think you can even trade eJuices you don't like for ones that you do.

 

[throatkick]

No doubt it will cost some $$ until you settle. I have 3 egos, 2 leos, 4-5 510 batteries, a passthrough, adapters galore, have bought juice from 5-6 different places, tried DIY, have 3-4 chargers etc etc etc.

After all this I settled on a $30 box mod and bulk 801 attys. Sometimes I use cartos now too.

My cost now is about $80 per month. I used to smoke 3 packs a day which cost $12 per day.
So let's round up my vaping costs to $100 a month. Cigarettes.. 12x30 = $ 360.

I am much less than 1/3 the cost and I have been extremely liberal with my vaping budget.

The fact that I have not caught a cold in a year while others around me have been very sick, the fact that my blood pressure dropped like a rock, the fact that I sleep like a log at night, the fact that my house, car and clothes don't stink, the fact that I can now actually breathe etc etc. All this for less than 1/3 of the cost? Sounds like a decent deal to me.

The best part is I do not miss cigarettes. I have no reason to go back. There is no torture, dilemma or doubt.
I couldn't put a price on that.

Lastly, look at my signature for actual numbers. Let's say all the stuff I bought and no longer use cost me $1000. I am still way ahead of the game when it comes to $$.

 

[burns_erin]

Some people save, some people do not, for myself, I save, as you can see in my siggy, I put in the COG as my kit price. So mine is fairly accurate. BUT, I smoked ALOT. A really lot, And cigarettes are very high around here. So my cigarette habit was more expensive than my house note and my home owners insurance combined. It gives me alot more room than you. I do not go in for expensive mods (yet...), I DIY alot. I use alot of unflavored juice. I will also vape things I don't really care for the taste of. I buy things on sale and with discount codes. And Ce's and Visions are much easier to clean than fillered cartos in my opinion. So I rotate them to be cleaned and reused. This also isn't my first rodeo at this. I have had several "phases" and my banner reflects this more recent attempt at quitting analogues for good. I also, even on previous attempts forced myself to meet the break even point even if I did not save money. So I got into what I consider a "good" yhabit in that respect.

I won't say it will get better, cost wise, because you had a relatively speaking cheap habit to start with. And if you are not convinced of the health benefits, well that is personal opinion, you are right about that. What I will say, is that for me, I have state insurance and they do not include e-cigarettes in their tobacco use premiums, and also my blood pressure has decreased. I haven't been at this long enough this time to see if it helps my cholesterol and during previous attempts I has not really tracking those numbers (this time I am). And subjectively, I can tell you my lung function has improved, AND (this is a very important distinction for me) quitting with an e-cigarette does not and has not resulted in hospitalization for bronchitis and pneumonia as quitting without it ALWAYS did.

Good luck to you. And at least now if you find something you don't want, you can always sell here or PIF.

 

[FRANKSTER]

No doubt it will cost some $$ until you settle. I have 3 egos, 2 leos, 4-5 510 batteries, a passthrough, adapters galore, have bought juice from 5-6 different places, tried DIY, have 3-4 chargers etc etc etc.

After all this I settled on a $30 box mod and bulk 801 attys. Sometimes I use cartos now too.

My cost now is about $80 per month. I used to smoke 3 packs a day which cost $12 per day.
So let's round up my vaping costs to $100 a month. Cigarettes.. 12x30 = $ 360.

I am much less than 1/3 the cost and I have been extremely liberal with my vaping budget.

The fact that I have not caught a cold in a year while others around me have been very sick, the fact that my blood pressure dropped like a rock, the fact that I sleep like a log at night, the fact that my house, car and clothes don't stink, the fact that I can now actually breathe etc etc. All this for less than 1/3 of the cost? Sounds like a decent deal to me.

The best part is I do not miss cigarettes. I have no reason to go back. There is no torture, dilemma or doubt.
I couldn't put a price on that.

Lastly, look at my signature for actual numbers. Let's say all the stuff I bought and no longer use cost me $1000. I am still way ahead of the game when it comes to $$.

Hello there...I see you have a nice breakdown of cost and benefits. For me, I miss smoking, nothing beats a cig in the morning with coffee or after a meal...The first thing I used to do after sex was reach for that smoke...I miss all that. As far as health issues, I think we do not know enough about vaping to say that it is much better than cigs...I smoked 2 packs a day and I felt great...I have been vaping for 2 months and I feel the same. I sleep like a baby then and now. I am very serious...I had no problems with smoking.

I got into vaping because it looked like alot more fun than smoking and just hated rolling my cigs...it was either roll them or spend 25 dollars a day( that's alot of money to smoke) Also, I was drawn in by the fact there were all these flavors which by the way, I only found 2 that are worth talking about. This is why I am here...I figured that I was pushing the envelope on the health issues with cigs, but I never got sick. I only started to cough and gag with e-liquid. I have to say that in my experience most of these juices taste like either perfume or vomit. I have to say that.

Anyway, good luck on your journey

 

[FRANKSTER]

Some people save, some people do not, for myself, I save, as you can see in my siggy, I put in the COG as my kit price. So mine is fairly accurate. BUT, I smoked ALOT. A really lot, And cigarettes are very high around here. So my cigarette habit was more expensive than my house note and my home owners insurance combined. It gives me alot more room than you. I do not go in for expensive mods (yet...), I DIY alot. I use alot of unflavored juice. I will also vape things I don't really care for the taste of. I buy things on sale and with discount codes. And Ce's and Visions are much easier to clean than fillered cartos in my opinion. So I rotate them to be cleaned and reused. This also isn't my first rodeo at this. I have had several "phases" and my banner reflects this more recent attempt at quitting analogues for good. I also, even on previous attempts forced myself to meet the break even point even if I did not save money. So I got into what I consider a "good" yhabit in that respect.

I won't say it will get better, cost wise, because you had a relatively speaking cheap habit to start with. And if you are not convinced of the health benefits, well that is personal opinion, you are right about that. What I will say, is that for me, I have state insurance and they do not include e-cigarettes in their tobacco use premiums, and also my blood pressure has decreased. I haven't been at this long enough this time to see if it helps my cholesterol and during previous attempts I has not really tracking those numbers (this time I am). And subjectively, I can tell you my lung function has improved, AND (this is a very important distinction for me) quitting with an e-cigarette does not and has not resulted in hospitalization for bronchitis and pneumonia as quitting without it ALWAYS did.

Good luck to you. And at least now if you find something you don't want, you can always sell here or PIF.

I like that toss in of the rodeo. Cigs in New York cost about 12-13 dollars a pack..there was no way I was giving that money to those swindlers in Washington so the last year I had to roll and it was terrible, but I had to feed my habit which I must admit, I loved. I had no health issues at all. I was very lucky. I tried or am trying to trade about 70 ml of juice for 15 ml and there are no offers. The only reason why I even want the 15ml is because I have nothing decent to vape. Otherwise, I would just give it away.

Great to hear you are doing well.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Frankster,

I used to smoke 6 packs a day. I've purchased a 21.99 starter kit. a 25.99 starter kit a 69.99 starter kit (which sucked) and a 57.99 starter kit and about 35 dollars worth the eLiquid. Also, the 69.99 one was supposed to be returned, so let's not count that.

$140.97 + maybe like 30 bucks in shipping.

Given it costs me $0.70 to $1.00 a pack and I've spent more money. I somehow only manage to vape a couple mLs of liquid per day.


I think you have LKIACSS (Little Kid In A Candy Store Syndrome) You may or may not be buying stuff you don't particularly need.

How many starter kits do you have?
When you bought the juice, did you buy small sample kits? Or did you "try" 30mL bottles of stuff you didn't like?

How much were the carto's per package?

Where were you buying this ....?

$300.00 worth the eJuice from BlueMist Vaping Supplies is over 30 10mL bottles or 8 180mL bottles. I'm sure the website you bought that from jipped you big time. $300 dollars should be over a year's worth of supplies dude.

Add me on skype - Big.Fat.Dan and maybe I can help you through it? You may be able to sell some of the stuff you don't want on this very forum, or even on craig's list. I think you can even trade eJuices you don't like for ones that you do.

Hello there, I do not know where you got that 300 from blue mist vapor...I do not think I ever mentioned that. I did in the 2nd and 3rd week rely pretty much on what GrimmGreen was saying was great juices, but they all were from different vendors, Yes, I was guilty for taking someone's opinion, but at that point, I knew nothing at all. So when a reviewer like Grimm is saying the juice is great.. I at lest expected it to be decent. I was not looking for great, but decent. I received neither.

As far as where I purchase my cartos and juice. I buy them in the same places that everyone else does so I know I am not getting ripped off. That is for sure. It is not my fault that I think the juice sucks. I use a k-go ans silver bullet. I have no problems with them and no problems anymore with the cartos so I am set with that.

It's all about the juice...you are one of the lucky ones to have something you can vape...I cannot vape tobacco that taste like perfume or vomit...Maybe, that is just me.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Save money?...what the hell does that mean? Nope not me. I didn't start vaping to save money. I did it to improve my health. I love mods and try to buy attys/juice/cartos when I can catch a good sale. I have enough cartos on the way to me right now, plus what I already have, to last me a couple of years. Attys get used only to test juices but my dual coil atomizers are on my Reo's. Juice...never can have enough. I love trying out new juices. I've narrowed down my favorite vendors so buying from all of them has stopped...even new vendors just starting, I don't buy from, until I see some reviews.

Hello there, not everyone starts vaping for health reasons, I certainly did not. I felt great while I was smoking and I feel great now...no difference.

Happy to hear you are having a good time...My good time in vaping is starting threads like this and I sit back and lmao at some of the responses...I love it!

 

[burns_erin]

I will not stop. I see something I do not like or do not understand and I must say something. I said something good about the sb and I also said great thing about the dulsis, but I cannot help all the other things I talk about. I fail I have a valid argument. I am happy for all the people on ecf who have found their 2 or 3 juices that they can vape all day. The juice I want is out of stock so I must vape juice that in my opinion is horrible...There is nothing I can do about that but keep trying.

Also, controversy is good, it keeps you thinking and questioning everything around you. I also think it's fun

btw...is Turkish tobacco e-liquid suppose to smell and taste like perfume? I am not trying to be funny but I have a turkish tobacco that I am vaping right that smells and taste like a flower. God...where is the Dulsis!

Flowery can usually be abated by steeping. So if it tastes bad now, let it sit for a week. Also, cutting it with unflavored can work wonders as well IMHO.

In fact, I really can't say enough about the joys of unflavored, lol.

 

[Princessdee]

My signature is figured on the $21 a carton I spent on tobacco by mail. Only mine, I didn't put hubby's in there.

At first there was the outlay for batteries and atties (901 type).
Then hubby learned to build mods.

Then he built more mods, better mods.

Then I learned to DIY my favorite liquids. I rarely buy pre-made liquid anymore. There are 2 I like that I can't make, so they are bought. (but at $8 for a 30ml bottle. I stay away from the expensive shops.) I sent all the liquids we didn't care for to the sandbox. Someone is getting some use from them, anyway.

I buy cartos now (approx $1 each) and they last a day or 2 each. Atties for flavor testing only, get washed and I can't honestly remember the last time I bought one.

Mod batteries last a long time. I'm using some that are over a year old.

My signature savings are real. I know they are. But it takes time. I spent well over $1000 my first 6 months. Now I'm not spending that anymore. Just cartos and flavoring and nic. It's all we need. And a tank. I need that ;-)

As for the pic, I'm a fat old grandma, so enjoy the pic of my pups ;-)

 

[burns_erin]

I like that toss in of the rodeo. Cigs in New York cost about 12-13 dollars a pack..there was no way I was giving that money to those swindlers in Washington so the last year I had to roll and it was terrible, but I had to feed my habit which I must admit, I loved. I had no health issues at all. I was very lucky. I tried or am trying to trade about 70 ml of juice for 15 ml and there are no offers. The only reason why I even want the 15ml is because I have nothing decent to vape. Otherwise, I would just give it away.

Great to hear you are doing well.

Us Texas gals hvae to throw in comments about rodeos, it's the law. There is also one a about Big BIG Hair, but I haven't figured out how to fit that one in there.

I used to do the handroll thing too, but they jacked up the cost of the tobacco so the price was the same regardless, and my time is valuable...ish.

When I get a chance I will try to see what you have for trade and what I might be able to trade with you, or what I may be able to PIF.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Us Texas gals hvae to throw in comments about rodeos, it's the law. There is also one a about Big BIG Hair, but I haven't figured out how to fit that one in there.

I used to do the handroll thing too, but they jacked up the cost of the tobacco so the price was the same regardless, and my time is valuable...ish.

When I get a chance I will try to see what you have for trade and what I might be able to trade with you, or what I may be able to PIF.

Thank you for the offer

 

[mjt]

I know exactly what you are talking about. When you purchase a carto, the vendor tells you how much e-liquid it can hold, but they fail to mention that if you put in too little, there is a good chance you are going to dry burn the carto. I take no chances now, in a 510 boge, I put in at least 1ml using the syringe method and wait for a few drops to come out from the bottom. I then make very sure that they are dry because you can harm your battery. Also, if you buy dual coils, you need to put at least 2 ml in the carto. I have done this after I burnt about 20 cartos.

It is not your fault, the fault lies with the vendor for not giving out this information...telling me a carto can fill up to 3 ml is not enough information. They think everyone who comes to their website knows all this before hand. The first week I started vaping I was putting about 15 drops in a krd carto and they vaped well. Based on that experience, why should I think that 15 drops to try out the juice is not enough. It is the vendor's responsibility to explain this, not yours.

I have also spent too much money starting out and I cannot even find a juice that is vapable...I mean decent. I purchased just recently 2 sample packs of juice that arrived yesterday consisting of 12 tobacco juices. On a scale from 0-10 each one in my opinion received a 0 that is 12 out of 12 zeros. I find it incredible that so many people love all this juice. I must come from the Bazzaro world. None of this makes sense to me. These were highly recommended vendors.

Frank, just a suggestion, but maybe you should try non tobacco flavors. I wasted a ton of money trying tobacco's and at best they are tolerable. Menthol is better than regular ejuice tobacco. I'm finding I need menthol or fruit type flavors.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Frank, just a suggestion, but maybe you should try non tobacco flavors. I wasted a ton of money trying tobacco's and at best they are tolerable. Menthol is better than regular ejuice tobacco. I'm finding a need menthol or fruit type flavors.

Thank you...I know I have to diy my own juice, that is for sure. As soon as I can afford it, I will be going in that direction...I must first get my dulsis and honey-flue cure, this way I have something to vape in the meantime. I cannot help but want to try a few juices from bwb...I hear nothing but great things about this vendor...very small purchases like maybe 10ml each. I read what you were saying wrong...I tried a few non-tobacco flavors...I cannot handle them. I know the flavor that I want, it's the dulsis and any variations of it. Sorry I read your post wrong.

I agree with you 100 percent...that is the only road I can take. Thank you for the post. I need to start another thread on this ry4...I cannot believe what a great following this juice has...I tried one and I cannot vape it. thanks.

 

[intime]

I appreciate this thread bc I have wondered if I will ever feel I am really saving money. I started vaping in Oct. bc I was very ill & could no longer smoke. I walked out of the hospital, lit up & knew I had come to the end of 35+ yr pad+ run. I had to stop. I went to a smoke shop & bought disposable(yuck), then started researching. I found utube & ECF, which helped me to decide on an upgrade. I am going good with what I have and have managed to save a little money, which is important to me right now too. It may be a good thing that I really can't go to crazy with all of this & can just be grateful that what I have works. I do hope to save $$$$ and look forward to continuing to feel good about my choice.

 

[OnlyInMyVapr]

You cannot be serious...I have purchased approx about 50-75 cartos...I use five at a time to rotate because the juice I vape sucks. How much does your juice cost...you get it for free. I have tossed at least 10 30 ml juices in the trash...I purchase the gear and juice in the same places everyone else does...your statement is totally illogical

I have just started vaping as well and as far as your costs go?

I bought 30 Vapor King Cartos and 40 DCC for a total of 45$ From V4L and CCV
I've bought 6 30ML bottles and 15 6ML Bottles for about 90$ from MV, V4L, VR and VG during sales
I paid to much for my 2 808 bats and charger for 75$ a couple weeks ago
I bought 2 tanks and 2 replacement inserts for 30$
and just bought a Provari a couple days ago that I get tomorrow for a total of 186$
-------------------------------------------------- 426$
I havent been smoking since 11/24/2011... I smoked Newports my whole life so 6.12$ x 8 = 48.96 I haven't spent
So my new total is 377.04... I'll smoke my juices no matter what and find out which ones I like the most/least when the Provari gets here but I'll still smoke them all. I currently have most of my juice left but for a pessimistic view lets say I have 250ml instead of the 270 i started out with. If I smoke 5 ml a day that gives me 50 days of vaping or 10ml/day = 25 days. Low side 25 days x 6.12 = 153$ not spent on smokes max side = 306$ minus that from what I spent so far on my initial investment 224.04 spent on vaping to 71.04 spent on vaping. My supplies will last me a minumum of 25 days. If I get the same deals on the juice that I got before in 3 months I'll be roughly even at the least .... in a year I will have saved a minimum of a 1000$ if I spent no more than 856.76 on supplies till 11/2012. Not to mention the healthy side effects......... and of course the fact that you threw away 300ml or so of liquid that im sure someone would have bought... but anyway hopefully you'll reach a wise decision by the end of this thread and have some beacon of hope that doesn't start with fire. Good luck

 

[Shilo]

Was there a reason for this post...I can take criticism as well as anyone...maybe it is b/c I am from New York. Still, there is no reason for your comment...How do you know what I am feeling when I write my post? I am sitting at my computer lmao and you make it sound like I am throwing a fit. Shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere. People on ecf are way too serious this is vaping not brain surgery.

I am not a ledge somewhere and don't need to be. You are so rude and no sir you can not take criticism at all. I got much support privately here yesterday for saying what others agreed with and were thinking also.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I am not a ledge somewhere and don't need to be. You are so rude and no sir you can not take criticism at all. I got much support privately here yesterday for saying what others agreed with and were thinking also.

I do not understand you...when you see my name on a thread...just pass it by...you must be interested in something and I am not rude at all...I just tell the truth...some people cannot handle it.

 

[PsychOfMSE]

I do not understand you...when you see my name on a thread...just pass it by...you must be interested in something and I am not rude at all...I just tell the truth...some people cannot handle it.

You can keep saying you are just telling the truth, and for the most part you are. The problem lies in your delivery of the "truth". Just because you are telling the truth doesn't mean you aren't being rude in the delivery. You have obviously been combative in many of your posts when 99% of people here are just attempting to help you.

You are making it abundantly clear that either you do not want advise or you are disguising your combativeness as asking for help.

Either way, grow up and quit being argumentative. If you want help, ask for it. If you don't like the answers you get then ignore them and move on.


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