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Then off to get some ice someplace to dump in the coolers over night
Check and see if you can find some dry ice. It will last longer and keep foods cold without the water causing problems.
My daughter told me that Dollar General is starting to allow the first hour they are open they will only allow senior citizens to shop. Check your local stores for similar policies.

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Good morning Yiddle and Rose. We're busy emptying out our fridge and freezer to let the unit totally defrost. Pedro told us it should start working again once it's defrosted. The part will be ordered and should arrive in 3-10 business days at which time he'll schedule a repair visit, but we'll have to empty and defrost it 24 hours before he comes out for that. Oh joy. At least we're not bored

I, personally, have had just about all the doom, gloom, and talking heads I can take! I just about threw something at my TV tonight when some Dr. said how critically important the "Millennials" are in the fight against this virus "because they understand tech better than anybody". What in Hades does that have to do with the situation?!!

I have prepared as best I'm able and can afford. I'm staying inside and there's nothing more I can do except wait it out.

Millennials can be useful in contacting people to check on them and help them with telemedicine or finding things online or bringing needed supplies to those who need it etc. Our Nextdoor site has people who have offered to help vulnerable residents in need. So nice to see that.

We called our neighbor to see if they had coolers we could use and she sent over both her high school kids to bring us 3 coolers. They were happy to do it and then stay for a chat. They'e bored and want to be back at school! The girl is graduating so she's seeing all her required tests and classes cancelled not to mention graduation and celebrations and doesn't know what it's all going to mean for her being able to start college. Sigh. This virus has caused so much disruption. At least I'll be happy to postpone my dental check-up!
 

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Check and see if you can find some dry ice. It will last longer and keep foods cold without the water causing problems.
My daughter told me that Dollar General is starting to allow the first hour they are open they will only allow senior citizens to shop. Check your local stores for similar policies.

Jerry

I think we'll be ok with just ice since we'll just need the coolers for 24 hours or so. These coolers are rated for 3-5 days! Guess we need to look into replacing our 40 year old coolers.

I heard one of the grocery store chains, can't remember which one, is doing that from 7-8:00 every morning - just seniors. Nice. Sounds like others may try the same thing.
 

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At least I'll be happy to postpone my dental check-up!

AH - But mine didn't postpone - nor cancel . . . Matter of fact, went yesterday to Miami to pick-up "teeth" and Today & Friday it is to Physical Therapy, Wednesday - FL Drivers License Renewal & Update (Verify American :facepalm: w/Original Birth Certificate/SS Card/2 Forms Confirming Address {I think SS Income Letter & Medicare card will prove it :lol: } - Eye & Hearing Test too). AND - Next week, Monday is Primary Doctor (Yearly Check-up & Follow-up Labs) & Cardiologist, Tuesday - Pulmanologist. Not to mention, Visiting Nurse M/W/F for check-up and to follow-up with new insuline use. SO - I guess Ya' can say I'm still "Self-Isolating" . . . :) :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Well - Do Ya' have any room for "Me" . . . Remember "We" are related . . . ;)

AND - Also remember to take a really deep breath every now & then, this too will pass . . . "We" do care about Ya' . . . Just Sayin' . . . :wub:

Dan :: snooze you lose ..

Yes, I just dropped my phone number and email address right here and now .. it won't last, so if you want it, I suggest you jot it down ..

As far as "Room in the Bunker" goes, Dan .. I read your medical update post a minute ago and I don't know if those requirements / etc, can be met very well outside of your area .. just sayin', pal .. :eek:
 
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I heard one of the grocery store chains, can't remember which one, is doing that from 7-8:00 every morning - just seniors. Nice. Sounds like others may try the same thing.

Yeah, that's happening in my area and it is nice .. I'm not much of a Morning Person as it relates to getting out and about early, however, most places around here are going with the first hour or two of opening for the day, so, you'll find the Overnight Re-Stock fresh and ready to go, no hustle and bustle .. stocked shelves, what a treat .. o_O
 

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First off....my apologies for my late night/early morning rant. And Willie....it wasn't your post that set me off... It was the culmination of days/weeks whenever and wherever I go online or turn on my TV, the constant barrage of doom and gloom and the stupid statement made by that Dr. was the last straw for me! Too many politicians and others putting so much emphasis on how important younger people are, while acting as if older folk are irrelevant, makes me feel as if they think we are expendable and that just touched a raw nerve with me.

People who don't have the equipment to go online, or who don't have access to the internet aren't going to be helped by any tech savvy individuals. The very people here in this thread and forum are testament to the fact that we all made it here without having a Millennial to hold our hands!

The only time I require tech help is when I'm having an issue with my computer, and I come here for that help. We all know how to use google to search for whatever, and when needed we ask each other, and thankfully there are those who will always reach out to assist.

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Ermergency situation just came up. Realized my stock of Spam and TastyKakes is running low. Getting geared up now to search for some at the local markets. :D

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Are you mocking me .. ?? :po_O:eek:

I read your furnace / fridge shtuff .. how about this one from the "When it Rains it Pours" file .. ??

Got up yesterday and went downstairs, put a load of clothes in the warsher .. ate a little breakfast and hit the shower .. went downstairs to move the load to the dryer and my sewer drain line had backed up ..
 

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I don't know if anyone reads 'Wired', the magazine, I can't post a link because you have to subscribe to get the content .. however, as a follow up to what Bea mentioned and Sandra's comments, here is a bit of an interesting article that 'Wired' published ::

With the world descending deeper and deeper into coronavirus chaos, we all face unnerving unknowns: how long we’ll have to remain in isolation, when the pandemic will peak, the depths to which the stock market will tumble. But what’s abundantly clear is that this novel disease is most deadly for the elderly. The young may not present any symptoms at all, and this is especially dangerous to their elders, because they can pass the virus on to them without realizing it.

Italy has been hit particularly hard, with some 2,000 deaths thus far. Overwhelmed hospital staffers have had to make devastating decisions about who to treat and who they must let perish. The reason why Italy is suffering so badly, write University of Oxford researchers in a new paper in the journal Demographic Science, may be twofold: The country has the second-oldest population on earth, and its young tend to mingle more often with the elderly, like their grandparents. Such demographic research will be critical in facing down the threat elsewhere, as more countries grapple with a deadly pandemic that’s just getting started and we learn more about how the virus is transmitted within families and communities.

In Italy, 23 percent of the population is over age 65, compared to the US, where that population is 16 percent. “Extended longevity has played some role in changing the population structure,” says University of Oxford demographer and epidemiologist Jennifer Beam Dowd, lead author of the new paper. “But it actually has most to do with how rapid the decline in fertility has been in a population.” That is, it’s affected more by Italians having having fewer children than it is by them living longer.

At the same time, young Italians tend to interact a lot with their elders. Dowd’s Italian coauthors note that young folks might live with their parents and grandparents in rural areas but commute to work in cities like Milan. Data on the composition of Italian households bears out this familial arrangement too.

The study’s authors argue that this frequent travel between cities and family homes may have exacerbated the “silent” spread of the novel coronavirus. Young people working and socializing in urban areas interact with large crowds, where they may pick up the disease and take it home. If they have no symptoms, they’ll have no clue that they’re infecting their elders, the most vulnerable population.

“We know now that the mortality is higher in older individuals, but what's not clear yet is why,” says Carlos Del Rio, executive associate dean of the Emory School of Medicine at Grady Health System, who wasn't involved in this research. For example, it could be a matter of older people having weaker respiratory systems, which could also lead to a higher mortality rate among seniors for diseases like pneumonia.

Other researchers studying why children don’t seem to get that sick from Covid-19 have pointed out the corollary: Kids tend to have “pristine” lungs that have not already been damaged by a lifetime of inflammation caused by allergies, pollutants, and diseases. This might make them more resistant to attack by the new virus.

Despite a full lockdown in place in Italy since the weekend, the virus has already spread far and wide. But with this kind of demographic knowledge, public health officials can better confront the threat elsewhere, Dowd says. “One of the points that we were trying to make is that it's not necessarily just about isolating the older population—we are identifying that they're the most vulnerable—but the general social distancing that's being encouraged to flatten the curve,” says Dowd. Flattening the curve means slowing the rate of new infections, buying researchers time to develop treatments and vaccines, and giving hospitals some respite. “I think our point was that's actually more important when you have a higher fraction of your population that is vulnerable,” she says.

But while separating younger and older people might work in theory, it can create practical problems. For example, desperate to flatten the curve, local officials in the US are closing schools. If parents can’t look after their children—because they’re still working out of the home, or because they’re ill themselves—that care might fall on grandparents.

To complicate matters even further, a study in Italy doesn’t exactly track with what we might expect in a massive country like the US, where the demographics vary greatly from place to place. Some cities might have far more young people than seniors, and some suburbs are likely just the opposite. Or think about Florida and its masses of retirees. “Florida is like an uber-Italy,” says Andrew Noymer, a demographer at the University of California, Irvine, who wasn’t involved in this research. “Florida is going to be a tough situation, I would predict.”

In a place with so many elderly people, many of them living close together in retirement homes, social distancing will be extra important to avoid disaster. “It’s not destiny to say Florida is going to be absolutely clobbered by this,” Noymer says. “There is time with social distancing to flatten the peak. Maybe we can make this the dog that didn’t bark, so to speak.”

An aging population doesn’t have to mean a devastating Covid-19 outbreak. In Japan, where over 28 percent of the population is over age 65, by March 16 there had been only 814 confirmed cases and 24 deaths, compared with Italy’s 24,747 cases and 1,809 deaths, according to WHO figures. Japan, along with neighbors including Hong Kong and Singapore, had rapidly ramped up testing in the early days of the outbreak and instituted strict travel controls.

But Dowd says we can use Italy’s example to take practical steps in fighting the pandemic. We might pinpoint areas with older populations and try “to anticipate a little bit where the burden of care is going to be the most severe.”

After a long delay in the rollout of mass testing in the US, on Friday the FDA approved the use of two commercial coronavirus tests. This may help Americans keep infected young people and healthy elders apart. In the meantime, if you want to check in with your grandparents, do it by phone.
 

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@Uncle Willie . . .

Why - THANK YOU - for being so kind . . . :thumbs: However, I want Ya' to know that I really was trying to be "Cheeky"/Humorous with Ya', especially given your statement & 'stance" . . . AND - Although I know you would make yourself/place available, if there was such an emergency, like "You" said, given "My" medical NEEDS - I would be much better off staying where I am or at 'My' best friends home about an hour away (just like I do when Hurricanes are headed "Our" way) . . . Anyway, I have taken the opportunity to take down "Your" personal info so "We" can stay in touch in RL (as I do with a number of ECF Friends alreay) - or once in a "Blue Moon" - or even if there is a possibility I come up to "St. Louie" to visit the city so "We" could meet in person (look for "My" person info in a future email) . . . Just Sayin' - Big Guy . . . :rolleyes:

went downstairs to move the load to the dryer and my sewer drain line had backed up ..

Does that mean the "Bunker" is flooded . . . ;) :lol: :lol::lol:

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Does that mean the "Bunker" is flooded . . . ;) :lol: :lol::lol:

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Nope, called a guy that knows a guy that came out that day and spiraled some kind of new fangled Water Jet thing into the drain .. ran a scope down it as well .. small tree root had invaded in one spot and his Water Jetting machine knocked it out, clean as a whistle .. (it did not cause a major water backup, it was just running slow and by warshing clothes and taking a shower at the same time, caused it to ..)

Nope, called a guy that knows a guy that came out that day and spiraled some kind of new fangled Water Jet thing into the drain .. ran a scope down it as well .. small tree root had invaded in one spot and his Water Jetting machine knocked it out, clean as a whistle .. (it did not cause a major water backup, it was just running slow and by warshing clothes and taking a shower at the same time, caused it to ..)
 
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I don't know if anyone reads 'Wired', the magazine, I can't post a link because you have to subscribe to get the content .. however, as a follow up to what Bea mentioned and Sandra's comments, here is a bit of an interesting article that 'Wired' published ::

Willie, I want you to know I really appreciate your breaking this into good paragraphs.
 

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Yeah, where's the sarcasm emoji when it's needed :)


Right here . . .

Sometime this one works: :rolleyes:

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Then again Ya' can just take a look at "My" Signature Line . . .





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Good morning. It's 33 with sunshine right now, but going up to 55 this afternoon with rain tonight. At least the kids that are home from school will be able to go outside to play and run off some energy.

Except for going to the grocery and drug store we've been staying in. We haven't had a chance to get bored because of our broken fridge. Yesterday we had to turn it off and completely empty it into coolers for 24 hours. We're supposed to be able to plug it back in and use it normally until the new part comes in. Then we'll have to do it all again before the repair guy comes back to install it. It was a good time to wash everything out thoroughly.
 

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Yes, I just dropped my phone number and email address right here and now .. it won't last, so if you want it, I suggest you jot it down ..

As far as "Room in the Bunker" goes, Dan .. I read your medical update post a minute ago and I don't know if those requirements / etc, can be met very well outside of your area .. just sayin', pal .. :eek:

You forgot to include your address and SS#. :D

Are you mocking me .. ?? :po_O:eek:

I read your furnace / fridge shtuff .. how about this one from the "When it Rains it Pours" file .. ??

Got up yesterday and went downstairs, put a load of clothes in the warsher .. ate a little breakfast and hit the shower .. went downstairs to move the load to the dryer and my sewer drain line had backed up ..

Me mock you ... I wouldn't to that. I just remembered my son bought that mask years and years ago and was wondering if it was still around. It still has a 'sealed' filter to screw onto it to protect from a nerve gas attack. It's actually a mask that was issued to all Israeli citizens way back and he picked it up from some surplus gear catalog.

Geez, glad your plumbing didn't turn into a bio-hazard cleanup disaster. I think I'd rather deal w/ our broken fridge than that kind of mess.
 

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Morning, misfits.

Only about 32 overnight, heading for, uh, 60??

We've pretty much not been "to town" for a week, although that's our usual, once every week or two. So happily missing the chaos. Other than what's on the screen, of course.

Maybe by the time we need to go again, there will be TP in stock :)

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