Made the switch to Koh Gen Do Japanese cotton, and what a difference!

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My wicking preference for a long time was white Peaches & Cream cotton yarn from Walmart. I had used cotton balls prior to that, but found the yarn to be superior, because all of the fibers are aligned much better than cotton balls, and it is consistent -- for example, I always know that my 3/32" coils needs exactly two strands of yarn.

I make my own juice, and decided to switch from mixing by volume (using syringes and pipettes to measure and dispense the correct volume of each ingredient) to mixing by weight (dripping ingredients directly into a bottle sitting on a 0.01 gram resolution scale). I ordered a suitable scale from Amazon (an AWS LB-501) with some unused credit, and still had some credit left over and needed to get my order over $35 for free shipping, so I also picked up an 80-count bag of Koh Gen Do Japanese cotton pads to try.

And I can't even believe how much better it is. It is very easy to work with, wicks faster than cotton balls or cotton yarn, and seems to be much less sensitive to heat. I can run my RDA's at 20-25% higher wattage on the exact same build without any burning from the wick not being able to pull enough juice to the coil. The taste seems a bit more neutral as well, although I never had any problems in that regard with other forms of cotton, so I may be just used to cotton in general.

A pack of 80 pads costs just $12: Amazon.com : Koh Gen Do Organic Cotton 80 sheets for Skin Care : Beauty

This is enough to last years, even if you rewick at least one RDA daily. You peel apart each pad in half to give you 160 pads, and cut or pull off (I prefer cutting, it's more precise and repeatable) a strip 1.5 - 2 times the diameter of your coil. Each resulting strip is long enough to make two wicks, even in RDA's with extremely deep juice wells that need very long wicks to touch the bottom. Some of my RDA's with shallower drip wells I can make even three wicks out of each half-thickness strip.

I almost always use 3/32" (2.4 mm) coils, and with this diameter coil, I get 15 strips from each pad. I use dual coils 95% of the time, and each day rewick 2 or 3 of the RDA's in my current rotation. Even with a 10% failure rate (which is much higher than reality due to how easy it is to work with this stuff):

80 pads x 15 "full" strips per pad = 1,200 "full" strips
1,200 "full" strips x 2 "half thickness" strips x 2 "individual wick" strips = 4,800 wicks
4,800 wicks minus 10% for messups = 4,320 wicks
4,320 wicks will rewick 2,160 dual coil RDA's
2 dual coil RDA's rewicked daily = 1,080 days = ~3 years
3 dual coil RDA's rewicked daily = 720 days = ~2 years

Extremely cost effective, super easy to use, and (in my opinion) gives the best results of any wicking material that I have tried (and I've tried all of the commonly used materials except for ceramics)? $12 for enough material that will last a few years even if you are a heavy rewicker like I am? What's not to like?

Don't hesitate. Pick some up, especially if you already use and prefer another form of cotton for wicking. I'm kicking myself for not trying it earlier. I'm also kicking myself for not getting a scale to mix my juice by weight earlier, and for waiting so long to start mixing my own juice in the first place (I just started three months ago), but that's a discussion for another thread.

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Try Rayon. It's more flavorful then KGD, to me.
second.... I tried rayon on a "Oh why the hell not. I doubt its better than my KGD." I was surprised. the flavor is cleaner than KGD was. I have tried going back to KGD and I can definitely taste the difference.
 
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I too used to use Peaches & Cream cotton yarn from Walmart before switching to KGD. I agree with everything that you said and the main selling point for me is how easy it is to work with and how versatile it is. I've been using it for almost two years now and I've barely made a dent in my $12 box.

I tried Rayon and have enough to last multiple lifetimes, but I don't care for it as I don't like the taste of it.
 

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I too used to use Peaches & Cream cotton yarn from Walmart before switching to KGD. I agree with everything that you said and the main selling point for me is how easy it is to work with and how versatile it is. I've been using it for almost two years now and I've barely made a dent in my $12 box.

I tried Rayon and have enough to last multiple lifetimes, but I don't care for it as I don't like the taste of it.
The very first time i used rayon i had a taste that i didnt much like But the same was true of cotton when i first used that...
 

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For quite some time now I have used Rayon. Before Rayon I bought a whole bag of Shiseido, when I tried Rayon, the Shiseido went into a drawer. Every once in a while I'll try it again, then decide rayon is much better. I have never tried KGD, so can't compare. I am wondering if KGD is similar to the Shiseido. Has anyone tried them both?
 
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For quite some time now I have used Rayon. Before Rayon I bought a whole bag of Shiseido, when I tried Rayon, the Shiseido went into a drawer. Every once in a while I'll try it again, then decide rayon is much better. I have never tried KGD, so can't compare. I am wondering if KGD is similar to the Shiseido. Has anyone tried them both?

I can't speak for KGD although i've heard people that have used both Kgd and Muji say there isn't a difference.
I was a long time Muji ... pad user before upgrading my vape experience to Rayon.
I'm not sure if it's cus i've just gotten used to the taste of Rayon or that the learning curve associated with a new wicking material has now passed but i don't taste any rayon at all now.

@Firestorm you should maybe try again sometime but obviously pack more into your coil's, shrinking rayon or not enough rayon in the coil's will defo not taste good, ive never had shrinkage :)
Saying 'Never' was kind of a lie! i mean since getting to know how to use it.
I was exactly the same when i first used it and thought what a load of crap and i to went back to my ... pads but after trying a few more times and going to the rayon thread for a read i finally got it and not only have i had to lower my nic and flavour lvl's as of it my wicks last muchmuch much longerrr :D

People forget about the funky taste they had when they first tried cotton when coming from silica wicks etc... dam! i bet those silica wicks taste like crap now :)
 
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I have the same bag of KGD that a previous poster's image. It's definitely a deal and it's clean and easy to work with. With my bag of Amazon KGD and my two large boxes of Sally's cotton and rayon I'm fixed for a decade. I even have a couple of bags of Silica wicking around here somewhere . . . and several boxes of Boge and Smoktech cartos.

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I use Koh Gen Do and Cotton Bacon 2.0 myself, and I love them both. I like Koh Gen Do for vertical coils and lower resistance builds. Cotton Bacon for the rest.

So many people swear by rayon, but it just isn't for me. It's harder to work with,(especially for rebuilding certain coil heads) and for me, I just don't get the benefits that others seem to over cotton.
I think it's because I tend to run my coils cooler than many people, so I don't get a lot of the negatives that people mention with cotton.

For example, as long as my hands are scrupulously cleaned, I don't get an off flavor from cotton at all. When I rewick my coils, the cotton is never gunked up or nasty, I'll have black crusty coils with cotton that looks brand new.
 
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I have tried Muji, KGD and Rayon. All of them works for me. I agree with you. .... gives me clean taste and its very easy to work with, so I use them on my RDAs. Rayon gives me clean taste also, and it is very durable, so I use them on my K4 and subtank mini. Some of my friends want to try ...., I gave them some, they had some rayon and they gave me some just because they didn't like the taste of it. To be honest, I really don't know what's the different between .... and rayon besides their texture. Do they really have a "taste"?
 
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I have tried Muji, KGD and Rayon. All of them works for me. I agree with you. .... gives me clean taste and its very easy to work with, so I use them on my RDAs. Rayon gives me clean taste also, and it is very durable, so I use them on my K4 and subtank mini. Some of my friends want to try ...., I gave them some, they had some rayon and they gave me some just because they didn't like the taste of it. To be honest, I really don't know what's the different between .... and rayon besides their texture. Do they really have a "taste"?
I find both to have a taste, but both tastes fade after a bit. I'm a recent convert to Rayon bc I find it delivers a cleaner, more powerful flavor, wicks better and lasts longer - BUT - KGD's pretty close, and easy-as-heck to duplicate consistent wicks.

TBH I'm all over Rayon now, but I think a lot of the Rayonati never experienced a good wick job with KGD. KGD rocks when it's wicked properly--rocks.
 
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