Many people have stopped vaping.

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Knifemaker

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Hang in there XG!

I was in the same boat. I finally ordered the EGO and found Freedomsmokesusa.com and tried the 36mg in 80-20 pg-vg, and WooHoo, more throat hit than my old analogues. and a ton more flavor. After 40 years smoking, and not being able to quit, I never even want one any more.
Now if we can just keep the government off our backs!

Mike
 

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I can't really add to much that anyone else has said. I completely agree. I never even knew about vaping until a co-worker got one at a 7-11. She showed it off for a few days but then never mentioned it.

More I thought about it, the more I wanted to try it because for so many reasons, I was ready to get off cigs. I started out with one of the "flashier" sites that seemed to have a good rep and they were... adequate at best. I weaned myself off cigs for about three weeks or so with that brand. However, once I found my way to this site, I have learned so much. Now, I'm using a product that I really like, getting ready to try my hand at a Riva and can honestly say that I have not had a real smoke in a week... something I haven't been able to say for the past five years. My co-worker who started it all? She quit after a week because it wasn't like a "real cigarette".

But, on my part, on breaks I have had a lot of people take notice and interest in the e-cig. One co-worker is even waiting for her order to come in after doing research online herself! What makes this site so great is the firsthand experience. Everyone has made mistakes or tried sooooo many different products and we all get to learn from that. Like anything "on the fringe", word of mouth will help get people to the right place but if you aren't really interested in the effort, then it probably won't matter what ends up being chosen.

Sorry for the length of this... but I see myself becoming passionate about this even after only a month.
 

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Nearly every person i have spoken to who have tried electronic cigs, have stopped vaping and started smoking analogs again.
They all said they had no clue this site existed, and that their first purchase of an ecig was disappointing. "They don't work, I threw them out after the second day".

It just goes to show that most of these "over the counter" e cigs are defective and don't deliver.

I believe that only a small percentage of people who have tried ecigs before and were disappointed, end up on this site and ask for help, so as to make an educated purchase.

Sad really...

Very true. I work with a guy who bought a Blu starter kit. It looked interesting so I started looking around for some info on e-cigs and this was one of the first things that I saw. I obviously ended up picking up a 510. It worked well enough but without this forum I'm not sure if I would have been able to deal with the growing pains.

The guy that I work with never ended up really using the Blu and I've been analog free other than a couple of days for four months. I'm also down to 8mg nic juice.
 

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I first saw ecigs on a TV commercial a long time ago & thought, "Wow, that's cool" but it was expensive & the price put me off and I never thought about it again until Mom decided to quit smoking several months ago. She mentioned that she was getting an ecig in addition to some kind of free govmt assistance program with a hotline mentor of sorts & some free nic lozenges (on a graduated scale of less & less over a 6 wk period, then none). Hard to say how well she's doing because she continues to claim that she hasn't had a single cigarette all this time despite the fact that she's been busted sneaking one several times & continues to deny.

Anyway, she gave me the ecig kit (Blu) because she said she didn't need it. The kit was complete, so I think she didn't try it. The best part was telling me that it wasn't necessarily the highest rated out there & I could check out others on the internet. I tried it & after a day or so, figured out how to get the vapor. I thought this just might work if it were a little stronger & the battery lasted longer. Since I knew there were others out there based on her comment, I did some research.

I was so excited about it that I ended up falling for another brand that isn't really one of the best but I also found this forum and that's been a Godsend. Turns out the initial research I did (ok, only 1 day but all day!) was at least enough to point me to a KR808 & though I've since turned to V4L, which is a much better supplier than the first one, I am happy with the KR808 model. I'm still working on getting the juice just right to make me happy. As I continue to learn from all the people on this forum, I'm getting closer.

I think people really need support from others to make the switch successful. If I didn't know Blu wasn't the only option, I may have given up. If I didn't learn that there is a learning curve to all this and you have to experiment a little, I might have given up. Now that Mom's been listening to my journey through all this, she asked for the Blu kit back :) That just proves to me that a little support from others with vaping can mean success where going it alone might not.
 

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I had no other options. I would wake up every morning coughing, sometimes until I puked and since I had nothing in my stomach, a little stomach juice would come up and after that, I would have intermitent coughing fits all day. But now I'm good, no problems whatsoever.
As far as everyone else goes. I don't care if they are quitting cigarettes or using an e-cig or whatever. They know what's available to them. If they try e-cigs and go back to smoking, that's their decision and none of my business. It seems that e-cigs are becoming somewhat of a religion to some people.
 

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maybe those that werent successful with ecigs werent successful because ecigs are in fact a placebo.

I'm not going to pretend thats a fact based statement...but nor is the idea ecigs are an effective alternative. We simply have too small a sample size, and very limited stats to back up ANY claim. To put it in simple terms - who the hell knows what these things are doing.

I think when we wonder why someone gave up vaping - its important to remember that while its possible the learning curve is too extreme, the effort too high, the desire not strong enough - we simply dont know chemically, if its really doing what we think its doing (someone point me to a definitive study to prove me wrong).

As it stands - placebo or not, effective or not - its worked for me. But i certainly cant say why it didnt work for someone else.

Psychologically - ecigs are fantastic, anything beyond that is pure speculation.

If someone tells me ecigs are a waste of money - I simply cant argue it. The inverse is equally true.
 

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Nearly every person i have spoken to who have tried electronic cigs, have stopped vaping and started smoking analogs again. They all said they had no clue this site existed, and that their first purchase of an ecig was disappointing. "They don't work, I threw them out after the second day".

Without good mentorship from an experienced e-cig user, I can believe this - there is a learning curve with the transition.

It just goes to show that most of these "over the counter" e cigs are defective and don't deliver.

Isn't this the truth? It's as if Big Money is behind putting defective product on the market within arms reach to cause so much of the disappointment. This is why, we experienced vapers need to get the word out to promote product that works. I would like no better than to see EVERYONE smoking analogs to realize that the e-cig market does have REAL solutions and quality product.

I believe that only a small percentage of people who have tried ecigs before and were disappointed, end up on this site and ask for help, so as to make an educated purchase.

I agree. For now. I see the tide changing however, I see the word of mouth happening. I see mentors born every day. I have seen huge market acceptance for the e-cig tech and I think it's going to be a very, very, big year.

Sad really...
Hold that thought. Let's bring this up again Jan 2012.
 

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Fortunately I found this forum first. I wish I could remember how I first learned of ecigs but I know I googled the term and landed here. Best thing I ever did! I know I wanted to quit smoking, hence the username, but in reality I didn't really believe it would work.

I know I was getting ready to travel at the time and flying can be a smokers worst nightmare. I would chew nicotine gum just to get me through until I could step outside of the airport. Remember back in the day when you could walk outside of any airport and find a dozen lighters laying around the the smoking area? They wouldn't let us take them on the plane so we would leave them for each other outside, for people we didn't even know LOL. Anyways smokers are friendly people and now that we are vapers we are just as friendly. But instead of sharing lighters we share juice and most importantly information.

I haven't bought a lot of equipment and pretty much stick to the same juice. With that said, if I didn't have the "right" equipment and didn't know how to use it, I'd be freezing my ... off having a smoke right now. Without this forum, I probably wouldn't have ever even tried a PV.

I don't buy anything without checking the Deals and Steals thread and always read the noobs sub-forum to see what people are recommending. This forum makes it easier for those that want to try it. The biggest problem is that not everyone who want to try a PV knows of this forum.
 

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maybe those that werent successful with ecigs werent successful because ecigs are in fact a placebo.

I'm not going to pretend thats a fact based statement...but nor is the idea ecigs are an effective alternative. We simply have too small a sample size, and very limited stats to back up ANY claim. To put it in simple terms - who the hell knows what these things are doing.

I think when we wonder why someone gave up vaping - its important to remember that while its possible the learning curve is too extreme, the effort too high, the desire not strong enough - we simply dont know chemically, if its really doing what we think its doing (someone point me to a definitive study to prove me wrong).

As it stands - placebo or not, effective or not - its worked for me. But i certainly cant say why it didnt work for someone else.

Psychologically - ecigs are fantastic, anything beyond that is pure speculation.

If someone tells me ecigs are a waste of money - I simply cant argue it. The inverse is equally true.

doubtful, i recently purchased life insurance, after being analog free for 6 months, and still popped hot for nicotine in the urine test, disqualifying me from prime rates and forcing me to purchase the preferred tobacco user plan. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. it's the ONLY reason i'm transitioning to no nic, an extra $100 in my pocket each month after renewing my policy next year will be nice.
 

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Its tough sometimes. I started with a DSE901 when they first came out, then went to a 510 a few months later. The only juices I had were from Totally Wicked, which frankly, tasted like .... I had serious troubles with batteries and found myself carrying a pack of cigarettes in case I ran out of power, or burned up an atomizer, or ran out of juice. I put the electronics down for almost a year before I ordered a Tornado. Used it for a few weeks before I gave up again.

Then I started dating a girl who is allergic to cigarette smoke. Luckily she's got no problems with the vapor. So I upgraded my Tornado with mega batteries, atomizers and cartridges. I ordered all kinds of liquid from a variety of retailers, fell profoundly in love with Geoff's Blend from Tasty Vapor. Now I'm sitting at my desk, puffing away on my Chuck, dripping Backwoods Brew Melonbacco and couldn't be happier. Haven't had a real cigarette in months and don't have any plans to go back. I loan the Tornado out to folks who want to try ecigs, and have converted several who, with proper guidance, have chosen quality products to vape and are happy with it.

Sometimes it just takes awhile to find the equipment that you can live with, the juice that keeps you happy and the drive to put it all together and get off the stinkies.
 
doubtful, i recently purchased life insurance, after being analog free for 6 months, and still popped hot for nicotine in the urine test, disqualifying me from prime rates and forcing me to purchase the preferred tobacco user plan. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. it's the ONLY reason i'm transitioning to no nic, an extra $100 in my pocket each month after renewing my policy next year will be nice.

You'll dig being no-nic - that's when there's no cravings. You can still enjoy vaping, but when you choose. That came in handy when I was on a plane, and many other situations.

Also, it took being nic-free for me to realize how cheated I was seeking a nicotine buzz. It's not a very enjoyable substance when compared to ANYTHING else. Once you're nic-free you may 'binge', only to find how true this is. People only use nicotine to avoid withdrawal.
 

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When I first heard an ad on the radio for Smoker's Savior I thought an electronic cigarette might work for getting me off cigarettes. Then after Googling I read reviews about Smoker's Savior.

All Bad.

The idea still made sense so I Googled further and found this place and Don DaBoom Vape's 6 part guide. Bought a KR808 starter kit from CigEasy and here I am, over a year later, and cigarette free. The only smokers I have not been able to get to switch are my sister and a friend. My sister got turned off when she tried a kiosk e-cig and my friend doesn't think it tastes tobacco-y enough.

Just goes to show that a poor product slams the door for some people who then lumps all e-cigs together as "bad." My friend just turned 30 and still thinks he's bullet-proof. He doesn't want to quit. Can't make any headway there.

Yesterday I was at a party and was vaping outside with the other smokers. One guy told me he tried e-cigs for four months and then went back to cigarettes because e-cigs made his blood pressure too high. Another smoker tried my "carry along for a demo e-cig" and said it tasted pretty good and was a lot better than paying 8 bucks a pack. Then he laughed and went back to his Marlboro Light.

You need to take care of three variables:

1.) If someone wants to quit
2.) Does a little research
3.) Buys the right e-cig for them

... they can switch over from cigarettes no stress no strain.

But the smoker has to do all three in order to make the transition work. Everybody I know that went back to smoking was missing one of the three.
 

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Nearly every person i have spoken to who have tried electronic cigs, have stopped vaping and started smoking analogs again.
They all said they had no clue this site existed, and that their first purchase of an ecig was disappointing. "They don't work, I threw them out after the second day".

It just goes to show that most of these "over the counter" e cigs are defective and don't deliver.

I believe that only a small percentage of people who have tried ecigs before and were disappointed, end up on this site and ask for help, so as to make an educated purchase.

Sad really...

I've been here over a year and a half and I'm seeing more posts of people who used to post here - went back to smokes and are now coming back here to 'try again'. This is a fairly new 'phenomena' - not that there weren't some earlier - just that I'm seeing it more these days. So despite all the problems people can have starting up - esp. if they got ripped on bad models, the urge to quit is still there and they decide to come in more focused this time... Again, no 'scientific' studies here but just an observation by someone who's been paying attention.
 

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I've ran into the same disgruntled and disappointed would-be vapers. It's really upsetting that there are so many who really wanted to stop cigarettes but were knocked back by crappy, and usually expensive, e-cigs.
I stress, and I mean stress, to those people and everyone who even seems slightly interested, that they come here to the forums first and read, ask, and study for just a few days. A visit and study here will put them on the right path.
Read forums, then order.

Yes, I do that also. However, I get really frustrated that more people don't take me up on that suggestion. Perhaps this site is overwhelming at first, but if you scroll through the threads it's pretty user friendly. I just don't get why someone wouldn't to make as informed a decision as possible.
 

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I think most of the current starter kits are garbage. Also people for the first set look for something like a cigarette - this is a big mistake. I also paid my price and throw a hell of a lot of money out on the window. But I wanted to change. I knew I could not just quit smoking so went on to the mod category. With the new devices and low res attys the experience is very much satisfying. Different from analog very much but something else, which makes you not to want an analog.
 

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Agree 100% with the OP. Been analog free for almost 2 months now. I've always wanted to quit, as many do, but none of the other cessation products really work (ok maybe 10% of the time).

So I always go to 7-11 to get coffee when I'm out and about and buy my analogs from them as well. See, I didn't smoke at home so I find every possible excuse to get out, buy me a coffee and have a smoke. I did smoke during the work day though.

There was this one time where the cashier told me about the NJoy that they have when I complained about the prices of cigarettes. And he said his neighbor absolutely loves it and don't smoke anymore. That first time, it fell into deaf ears. Why so .... Because I was in denial that smoking really affects me in a bad way. Oh yeah, I only smoke 1/2 pad or 3/4 pad at most if I'm stressed. That's not like 2 pads, right? That was my attitude and maybe others have the same.

One day, after coming back from work, I stopped by 7-11 to, once again, get my coffee and buy my 2-packs of Marlb Ultra Lights 72s as I'm already out. Yeah Ultras 72s but I don't smoke leisurely, i.e. like I'm always rushing when I go out to smoke especially during sub-freezing days so I tend to take in a lot of the smoke.

Then it just dawned on me, what losing $20 will do to me, in case the NJoy 2N1 does not work. So I broke down and bought the NJoy starter pack and *did not* buy any analogs. So practically forcing me to use the NJoy. Well, what do you know ...... I never bought analogs from that moment on. Wife noticed that my clothes don't stink, I do errands much quicker now
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and I've cut down on my coffee intake.

Was going on a vacation with the family to Orlando, FL so I was worried sick what's gonna happen if it breaks or if the flavor runs out, etc, etc. I bought a refill, $20, but then again, that still would probably not suffice. This is when I found out about ECF. Researched about NJoys and was surprised to see a big community and multitude of PV options. Learned about the "condom" method of refilling cartos. Ordered my Joye 510 from cignot to bring with me to the trip but didn't arrive in time {I was too late in placing order}. So instead of buying more NJoy refills, went to a local shop that sells e-juices and bought me a couple bottles to bring to our vacation.

My quest to quit analogs started when I promised my kids, while looking them straight to their eyes, that I will quit. Never thought e-cigs can make it happen but it did.
 

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Great story francis_a. I think that smoking is actually two addictions. One is the physical addiction to nicotine the other is the psychological addiction to what is called "hand to mouth gratification". Over eating is the exact same psychological addiction. I'm truly convinced that tweeting is the electronic version of hand to mouth gratification and is addictive. E-cigs are the perfect tool to attack the physical addiction of nicotine by gradually lowering your dosage over time while still providing that all important psychological addiction of hand to mouth. I hope to eventually become nic free but I'm not sure I'll ever kick the hand to mouth thing. That addiction is deep rooted and goes back to when you were 1 year old and mom set you in the corner with a pacifier in your mouth and left you there too long.
 

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Nearly every person i have spoken to who have tried electronic cigs, have stopped vaping and started smoking analogs again.
They all said they had no clue this site existed, and that their first purchase of an ecig was disappointing. "They don't work, I threw them out after the second day".
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A person must want to quit smoking for a very good motive. Without a good motive it won't happen no matter what.

Believe it or not, I began vaping because I believed God spoke to me about my smoking. He said something like, "Why do you insist on the all or nothing approach? These electronic cigarettes are my answer for you now. I will tell you when it is time to quit smoking/vaping all together."

So far I haven't heard from God about my vaping.

This might sound crazy to you. It's just the important motive I needed to have before I would switch to ecigs.

Dave
 
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