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The membranes are very expensive for the true RO performance. Even with prefilters I'm surprised you get a year out of one. I forget one of the few really good things in NY is the tapwater. What you have coming out of the tap without filtration would barely be a step above drinking mud.
That's how Chicago was for me, I could smell politicians in it. Think and smelly.

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Sure. vaping is new, and we haven't had time to really assess the risks involved. That said, extrapolating from what we do know it seems clear that vaping is a lot safer than smoking, right? If I had to place a bet, I'd actually put my money on certain forms of vaping being better for you than not vaping, but... there's no way to be sure at this point.
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I'm not familiar with the first study, but the second one sounds like when they exposed living lung tissue to e-cigarette vapor and found "significant cell damage" after seven days. The part they usually leave out of the news reports is that they "couldn't form a comparison" to cigarette smoke, because that killed the cells off within the first 24 hours.
And the process they used or I should say the machine cranked up to unrealistic settings made the cells die. Yes, push things to their extremes and show the proof that this or that is bad for you AT THOSE LEVELS.
Slapping a warning label on cigarettes didn't stop anybody. Heck, Stop Signs don't stop anybody. There was no diclosure statement saying when I adopted my dog he wouldn't lick his .... then try to kiss me. [emoji3]

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Both are old news, debunked.... unless it's actually new, there's very few studies that have actually held up, at least any that have been anti-vape..
 

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The parent either didn't know her child had it or gave it to her to play with.


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Texas girl chokes on fidget spinner part
By Robert Jimison, CNN
Updated 3:15 PM EDT, Wed May 17, 2017

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10-year-old Britton Joniec choked on a bearing from her fidget spinner
Her mom posted on Facebook after doctors removed the part from the girl's esophagus
(CNN) Fidget spinners are driving many adults crazy, but one Texas woman is warning about her daughter's dangerous experience.

The mother is sharing her experience in hopes it will serve as a warning to other parents about the choking hazards of the latest toy craze. A fidget spinner has a stable middle and a disc with two or three paddles that can be spun, much like a ceiling fan, to relax the user.

Kelly Rose Joniec of Houston wrote in a Facebook post that she was on her way home Saturday afternoon when she heard Britton, her 10-year-old daughter, choking in the back seat. She pulled over and discovered that her daughter had swallowed one of the bearings from her fidget spinner. After trying to dislodge the small piece of metal with the Heimlich maneuver, Joniec took Britton to the nearest urgent care center.


Doctors were unable to tell where the object had gotten stuck. It wasn't until after an ambulance ride to Texas Children's Hospital that an X-ray revealed the round metal bearing in the girl's esophagus.

In the post, Joniec wrote, "Britton was taken to surgery to endoscopically locate and remove the object. Fortunately we had a positive outcome, but it was pretty scary there for a while...not only because of the initial ingestion, but then the concern about the composition and structure of the object, and finally, the risk with general anesthesia."

The Joniec family said in a statement to CNN, "our full attention and focus is on caring for our daughter and ensuring she continues to lead a healthy life." No other updates about Britton's condition were available.

Efforts to contact several fidget spinner makers for comment were not successful. Learning Express Toys, which carries the gadgets online and in over 125 stores across the country, has a warning for consumers on its website. "CHOKING HAZARD - Small parts. Not for children under 3 years."

The US Consumer Product Safety Commission agrees: "Anything with small parts, keep it away from young children. If it can fit through a toilet paper roll, don't give it to a young child, and make sure to follow the manufacturer's instructions," spokeswoman Patty Davis advised.

Many toys come with choking hazard warnings. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, choking is a leading cause of injury and death among children, especially those 3 or younger. In a statement from the Committee on Injury, Violence, and Poison Prevention, the academy warns that "Food, coins, and toys are the primary causes of choking-related injury and death. Certain characteristics, including shape, size, and consistency, of certain toys and foods increase their potential to cause choking among children."

Several schools have banned fidget spinners because they've become a distraction. The devices have long been a tool for teachers, guidance counselors and therapists.

"Promoting fidgeting is a common method for managing attention regulation," said Elaine Taylor-Klaus, co-founder of ImpactADHD, a coaching service for children with attention disorders and their parents.

"For some people (with ADHD), there's a need for constant stimulation," she said. "What a fidget allows some people -- not all people -- with ADHD to do is to focus their attention on what they want to focus on, because there's sort of a background motion that's occupying that need."

CNN's AJ Willingham contributed to this report.
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The problem with that is that vaping is new.
I'm sure nobody died of smoking related illnesses in the first ten years after the invention of the cigarette.

Nobody did ANY test like we can do now in the first ten years of cigarettes... hell, not even for the first couple of hundred years I would believe... they start realizing things and THEN started doing tests in what? the 50-60S and still not until the 70s did they start doing something.

Huge difference, INSANELY HUGE difference.
 

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Wow! That high? I used to keep saltwater reef tanks and made my own synthetic seawater. I needed as close to 0 ppm to mix into and used a RO / DI system for tap water of 30-40 ppm. If I had to deal with 1000 ppm water I would have gone through one RO filter a month.

yup.. radiation from nuclear tests have contaminated a LOT of areas....seriously... there's lots of info about it, maps with the hot spots, etc.
 
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