Mech Mod, Squonking with MTL?

[Vapemesilly]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

 

[Skeebo]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

You'll be pushing about 17.5 watts on a fresh battery. I've never used a mech with mtl, someone with more experience will advise better than I could.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

With a 1 ohm coil on a fully charged battery (4.2 volts), like Skeebo said, you will be at 17.5 watts.

As you vape on any mech your battery will drop below 4.2 volts fairly quickly giving you less and less power (wattage) as your battery drains.

With a 1 ohm coil:
3.8v = 14.4w
3.6v = 12.9w

If you wanted to stay around 15 watts then consider a 0.9 ohm coil. Most of your vaping time on a battery will be between approximately 3.6-3.8v.

A 0.9 ohm coil at 4.2v = 19.6w
3.8v = 16.4w
3.6v = 14.4w

You will know when you need to swap batteries as your hit will be weaker than your desired wattage. To be safe I wouldn't go much below 3.6v with a battery in a mech.

As always Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators is your friend.

Good luck.

 

[Rossum]

A mech mod will never actually put 4.2V into your coil due to battery sag and losses in the switch and other components.

I've been MTL vaping mech squonkers exclusively for 5+ years. I was using regulated (DNA 30/40) squonkers at around 15 watts before that. I would say you'll want to go a bit lower than 1.0Ω, at least I did. With single-coil atties, I've been at around 0.75Ω pretty much the whole time.

 

[Vapemesilly]

You will know when you need to swap batteries as your hit will be weaker than your desired wattage. To be safe I wouldn't go much below 3.6v with a battery in a mech.

With a mech mod, how do you know when your battery has dropped below 3.6v?

 

[Rossum]

With a mech mod, how do you know when your battery has dropped below 3.6v?

You'll notice the vape getting weaker. For me at least, it's basically impossible to run a battery down below about 3.7; I want a fresh one before I get there.

Also the bottle can become a sort of battery gauge with a squonker. I always refill the bottle when I change batteries. In my ADV, mod running straight unflavored, that's once a day. In my nightstand/breakfast vape, that's every 2-3 days. A half a bottle usually takes the battery down to about 3.8V.

 

[zoiDman]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

With a Mech, the 1st thing you do is Calculate what the Lowest Ohm Build that can be used for a given Battery's CDR. Then you adjust the Ohms of your Build to find the Hit you like without going lower on the Ohms than what your Battery can handle.

And you might end up with a Build that it a little lower than what you would Normally use.

With a mech mod, how do you know when your battery has dropped below 3.6v?

The Hit you will get will start to feel Weak.

The Type of Batteries we use can be Safely Discharged well past 3.6 Volts. And at say 3.2 Volts, whereas it is still OK to use, the Hit will be getting Very Weak.

So you will know.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

With a mech mod, how do you know when your battery has dropped below 3.6v?

I am able to tell when the strength of my hit gets noticeably weaker. It’s like you’re used to say 25 watts and then are dropped to 12 watts - except on a mech it’s a gradual drop off as your battery drains.

You can always pull your battery and check it in your charger — that’s what I did when I first started using mechs.

I have some regulated mods that give a low battery warning at 3.2v. That is still within the safety margin.

 

[zoiDman]

You'll notice the vape getting weaker. For me at least, it's basically impossible to run a battery down below about 3.7; I want a fresh one before I get there.

Also the bottle can become a sort of battery gauge with a squonker. I always refill the bottle when I change batteries. In my ADV, mod running straight unflavored, that's once a day. In my nightstand/breakfast vape, that's every 2-3 days. A half a bottle usually takes the battery down to about 3.8V.

When I used a Mech Squonker, the ONLY Time I ever used it much lower than about 3.6 Volts was a time I was helping someone do some Home Repair without a Spare Battery.

By the time I got home, it was like at 3.3 volts. And I felt like I was back-in-the-day doing hits on a RN4081 with a worn-out Carto.

LOL

 

[zoiDman]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

BTW - With a Mech, you also do your Build so that on a Fresh Battery, the Hit is a Tad Warmer/Stronger. Then as the Battery tappers off, you go into the Middle Voltage Sweet Spot.

Or at least, that's How I Did it.

 

[zoiDman]

So I want to dip my toe into the mech squonk mod world, single battery, for MTL vaping. I now vape at around 1.0 ohms at 15 watts on my regulated stuff. What I am wondering is how will a mech mod squonker hit with a 1.0 ohm coil vaping with a MTL RDA?

Will it be comparable? Will it be too much? Too little?

Anybody vaping this route? What can you tell me?

Thanks.

BTW2 - Are you using a RDA and Dripping right now on a Regulated Mod?

 

[Vapemesilly]

BTW2 - Are you using a RDA and Dripping right now on a Regulated Mod?

I am using a regulated squonker with a MTL RDA.

Thanks for all the input folks. Very helpful.

 

[Falconeer]

When I use a mech squonker I build beteen 0.75 -0.9 Ohms and to me it's pretty noticeable when the power had dropped off and vapour production has declined - you'll really just know when it happens.

 

[zoiDman]

I am using a regulated squonker with a MTL RDA.

Thanks for all the input folks. Very helpful.

Then it sounds like it should be a relatively painless Transition to go to a Mech Squonker.

Because the Wattage you are currently using is Very Close to what a Mech is going to produce.

 

[PapawBrett]

Been vaping mech squonkers for eight years, usually around 1.4 Ohms single coil in MTL atomizer (11 Watts or so). A 2200mAh Battery will last pretty much all day. That os vaping about 3 to 5ml of e-liqyud a day. A 3000 mAh should last longer. The vape will weaken, and produce less then your batts weaken and produce less.
As with any Mech Mod, double check your coil builds for shorts/ breaks before installing and firing the mod.

 

[Falconeer]

Rossum has given a very good rule of thumb if you are vaping around the 1.0 Ohm mark - change the battery when you fill the bottle.

I'm back experimenting with a basic Kanger Drip Box running a single 0.9 Ohm coil and am getting two days out of a bottle and battery but YMMV.

The atomiser was designed to use twin coils but this is what I did ...

 

[Rossum]

The atomiser was designed to use twin coils but this is what I did ...

I can't imagine that was a very good vape. The chamber on that atty is way too big for a single coil at 0.9Ω.

 

[zoiDman]

I can't imagine that was a very good vape. The chamber on that atty is way too big for a single coil at 0.9Ω.

That... And the Air Inlet Holes on the RDA that comes with the DripBox are Ridiculously High.

The DripBox is a Very Cool Little Squonk Mod. The RDA that comes with it, not so much.

 

[Falconeer]

I suppose it depends on what you want out of a vape - I cut my teeth on Nauti Minis and iSticks and am a Tootle Puffer at heart and so this wee oufit is actually working pretty well for me five days in.

I'm running the thing with the coil and wick as in the picture and with that airflow about a quarter open and it's working fine for me and producing as much vape as I want.

I also do have to say I've enjoyed the fun of getting an atomiser I didn't rate when I first tried it as issued to work satisfactorily, especially as the full kit cost £10.00 at the January Sales!

I've just had my first drag of the day with this set up BTW!

Each to his own! Happy vaping all!