I agree, as well. Make that three of us.
Great review and follow-up. And good timing, as I sit here getting to know my 4 hour old Stick.
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Great review and follow-up. And good timing, as I sit here getting to know my 4 hour old Stick.
Just got an email from Janty, mine has left the building but without a tracking number since it was a warrantee item issued. Its all good
Wow thanks for putting your time to give us a thorough review! I've just finally gotten my stick today so you can tell I'm extremely happy! Your review is excellent!
Here's custom sig made just for you for! Keep up the good work!
Very Cool Gallardo! Thanks very much! I shall display it with pride!
Finally got my stick! it was well worth the wait I think i can finally drop analogs. Are we going to be able to purchase additional USBE cables for this? Id like to keep one at my desk at work and one in the car.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Here's a test I think everybody should do.
Instead of sucking on the stick, blow into it. Watch where the vapor comes out.
On the stick I have, I can blow into it and vapor will come out of the tube (designed area) and out of the USB port. If these were fully sealed, no vapor would come out of the USB connector. But it does. Of course, this means the tube is not air sealed.
No vapor comes out of the end as stated in OP's original post.
So, how about everybody post their findings from a blow? Where do you see vapor come from?
Ludo,
Can you explain why I get vapor from the USB port? I am assuming the USB port is connected to the screw area and liquid can definitely get there. I am not concerned as long as there is something that is protecting the USB electronics from the liquid. A leak onto the USB electronics can totally trash the unit since that is where the re-charge line is situated. (I bought a battery charger too....so I'm sure I would work around it.)
Instead of sucking on the stick, blow into it. Watch where the vapor comes out.
On the stick I have, I can blow into it and vapor will come out of the tube (designed area) and out of the USB port. If these were fully sealed, no vapor would come out of the USB connector. But it does. Of course, this means the tube is not air sealed.
No vapor comes out of the end as stated in OP's original post.
So, how about everybody post their findings from a blow? Where do you see vapor come from?
Ludo,
Can you explain why I get vapor from the USB port? I am assuming the USB port is connected to the screw area and liquid can definitely get there. I am not concerned as long as there is something that is protecting the USB electronics from the liquid. A leak onto the USB electronics can totally trash the unit since that is where the re-charge line is situated. (I bought a battery charger too....so I'm sure I would work around it.)
There is an opening between the atomizer shaft and the compartment behind it to have airflow, I think that is what DW mentions every time he posts. The connection between the atomizer and atomizer screw is fully sealed however.
We have put this to a test a few months ago. We drained the circuit board and other parts in liquid and tested the unit. The unit worked and is still working today.
It's just standard legal department boilerplate.
Like my toaster's instructions which repeatedly point out how wonderful it is that my settings stay in memory unless there's a power failure, then warn me to always unplug the toaster when not in use.
I received my stick at around 3 pm EST today. It hasn't really left my hands since. Battery is still going strong. I won't go into some huge, in depth, review. I'm not really good with them. I will say, however, that I'm impressed and I'm glad I bought a second one (that should be here Monday). I've owned the Kissbox and I own several Zimoshi mods. Those, up to this point, were my favorites. If the stick keeps up the performance I've seen with it today, those will be shelved as backups. Don't get me wrong, they're good devices and I love them but the form factor of the stick has won me over. It's just so....small. I've also not had an issue with a single atomizer I've tried to put in it and I have them from MVS and Dietsmokes. My only issue has been trouble getting the battery out. Anyone have a quick solution to that one?
See this is the problem...
There is a plastic bushing in the atomizer. The purpose of this bushing is to insulate the positive and negative terminals from making contact with each other.
Apparently someone up at Janty assumed this bushing would also act as a gasket to 'seal' the connection. That person who made that assumption was wrong.
The janty stick is no more sealed that any other PV on the market and as most of us who have had liquid come through the connection between the battery and atomizer of other PV's know, it is not sealed.
To create a seal would require a gasket and there is no such gasket in the janty stick or the atomizer.
You know, I realize that from where you are sitting you honestly believe I am the one in the wrong here but I would like to point out that I was the one that paid you for a product based on the information you supplied and I did not get what you promised with regards to delivery schedule or product design.
It was YOU that wronged me (and many others that don't seem to care). When confronted with this it was YOU that was unappologetic and rude. You were supposed to be the professional and you have conducted yourself like a child.
I will likely still buy the adapters from Janty since they will serve a valuable purpose for me but I can assure you with absolute certainty that I do not now, nor will I ever trust a word you have to say as this entire experience has shown me you lack any sembalance of integrity.
If you are unsure with the meaning of any of the words I have used or you are unclear with regards to the specific meaning of those words strung together, then please have someone with a solid command of the English language explain it to you. You could stand to learn the lesson I have tried to offer.
You can now have a break as I will desist in posting on the Janty forum. Any issues regarding Janty I will gladly direct to PM with Ethan. He has been the ONLY part of dealing with Janty that has not been incredibly unpleasant.
I am done with you Ludo.
DW
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LMAO! The circuit hack in an apt. and a western Union Account to purchase from a supplier in China. Come on, none of these sellers are real companies, they buy this **** from China, you can get atomizers for about $3/ea. same for batteries. Kits, about $10. Then they sell them to you for $40 to $150+
The *custom* stuff... Hacked up 5 dollar flashlights with another 5 in batteries... $100+ all to add a couple worthless volts to an already worthless design.
Don't get me wrong, I know that all sounds deragatory and I actually mean to be facetious; the point is, did you really think you were dealing with a Fortune 500 or something? Most of the these probably started as mods that people started requesting, they're trying and makin a buck at it.. No biggy... Not slammin ya but again, are ya really surprised and, can ya throw that stone....
So, here's some food for thought for ya. E Liquid rocks, hands down. You need something to hold the liquid and a source of heat to vape it. That doesn't mean it HAS to be a battery operated 5mm strand of NiCr wire stuffed in a stainless steel tube. Which just FYI, 30 meters of 40 guage 80/20 NiCr is about 7 bucks, 1 meter of stainless steel 10mm tubing, about $5.00. IMHO, the only thing about the entire design I find useful and clever is the NiFoam.
Yes, the vapor does come out of the USB port which is telling me that there is no seal. If it were sealed, how would the air come in as we inhaled? So about the atomizer being sealed.... I don't think so. 8-o
Now it truly makes sense that e-liquid would leak out. Thanks for the perfect example DisMan. Now I know I'm not crazy and I do know how to properly screw in an atomizer.
I remember when Ludo first promoted the stick, it was touted as being a dripping machine. I now see that it has been changed as dripping to top off your cartridge, not directly on the atomizer. Does anybody else remember this??
Quote from the JantyUSA site"
"The Manual Version has a fully sealed atomizer compartment allowing you to drip without a problem."
The atomizer compartment can be cleaned by simply using a tissue paper.
"However, JANTY recommends dripping on the cartridges instead of dripping directly on the atomizer."
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q, I think you are thinking of the Prodigy or the Screwdriver, the stick is not a modified flashlight. Different design....
I remember when Ludo first promoted the stick, it was touted as being a dripping machine. I now see that it has been changed as dripping to top off your cartridge, not directly on the atomizer. Does anybody else remember this??
Quote from the JantyUSA site"
"The Manual Version has a fully sealed atomizer compartment allowing you to drip without a problem."
The atomizer compartment can be cleaned by simply using a tissue paper.
"However, JANTY recommends dripping on the cartridges instead of dripping directly on the atomizer."
I remember that. As I understood it, the whole compartment was to be sealed off, the air would get in around the atomizer tip (where it sticks out of the Stick body).
Ludo, don't get me wrong, I love Janty products and you guys have been great, but there is a problem of misinformation. I'm not bashing you, I'm not mad at you or anything - just please pay more attention to what you say and how you advertise. People end up disappointed. Had you said only that the electronics board is coated and liquid-proof, we wouldn't expect it never to leak.
Ah OK, lemme add to it: box, rectangle, triangle, cube, cylinder, dodechahedron... whatever... Anyway ya spin it it's a battery holder with a switch. Which is fine, but it is what it is.
Anything that will provide a more consistant voltage for a longer period of time and get rid of those obnoxious micro controllers and cheap-... air pressure switch is a step in the right direction IMHO. I have to admit though, the prices crack me up, $10 worth of parts, maybe 15 minutes to assemble tops..... If there were R&D to cover on the back-side I'd get it, .......
Mine leaks like a ...... Only 3 hr. in my shirt pocket and I have a quarter size spot of liquid on my shirt. It takes another 15 mins to clean the damn thing all around the bottom cap where the led is. Then when I unpluged the the usb connector, liquid on it too. I now charge without the atomizer attached and leave the stick upside down at night to drain.
My manual doesn't leak at all that I've seen. Only problem I've had is when I accidentally put it in my pocket atomizer tip end down and then my next drag got me a mouthful of juice where it had drained up into the tip. My own stupid fault on that one. I do have trouble getting the battery out of the unit after I remove the battery cover though. Not a problem when I can charge with the battery in the unit, will become a problem when I'm out and need to change batteries.
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