Yes, actually I did try the ones that came with the kit. Two, in fact. One worked great and I would have continued to use them except the second one I tried didn't produce any vapor no matter how much juice I put in it. Thinking of expense...and not wanting to waste the juice I do have...I went to the boge cartos. Yeah, pretty much want to toss it all at this point. The second flavor is Turkish Hills...tastes like eating soap. And still tastes like metal. I filled a new one with Lester as well. I filled them both really carefully, although I can't tell how many ml from this bottle (its a lot larger and no markings) I filled the condom thingie 2 1/2 times just about, for each new one. Still taste like metal.

I could just cry.