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yeah... I had a hard enough time getting her to let me polish the door! I have plans for something that will utilize my trident... But that is going to be a deployment project for me and my dremel!
I wouldn't have thought that you should put a Buttafuco on your wedding mod. . . . . . . .. just being silly.
So guys tell us/me has anyone got it working as good (maybe not as the RM2) as a tube mod and dripper? I'm waiting for my invoice from Rob and can't wait to fit my "full sizers" on it
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yeah dude, from a taste point of view the reo is every bit as good as dripping and in some cases better even, because dripping can wind up oversaturated and wind up having cooked juice hanging out in the atty where a properly set up and squonked reo can actually surpass it slightly in these areas...
well I received my immortalizer and this thing really isn't going to work on the reo as-is, thought it might be worth a shot, the only way to use it would be modifying the heck out of it and building a completely new cap, not worth it... I'm not opposed to modifying and I expected to but this thing is just too unsuitable even with some modifications, it would need to be completely re engineered and not even be an immortalizer anymore
well I received my immortalizer and this thing really isn't going to work on the reo as-is, thought it might be worth a shot, the only way to use it would be modifying the heck out of it and building a completely new cap, not worth it... I'm not opposed to modifying and I expected to but this thing is just too unsuitable even with some modifications, it would need to be completely re engineered and not even be an immortalizer anymore
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got to be bottom fed; most RBA RDA are NOT, although if you want to forgo the tank feed system in the Reo GO FOR IT.
The new sub ohms kit Rob has been promising can NOT come to soon!!!!!!!!!!
but for the meantime, squonk or not, for those that don't mod (DIY pos pin, and bottom fuse) . we suffer a bit of v drop and batt issues with low resistances. (sub .9 Ohms)
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I've seen people pull their positive post and just take a cut out of the insulator to mod for bottom feeding (then re-assemble of course), it seems super easy, but is it a bad idea?
That depends. It increases the potential of a hard short. I would only do that if I felt very confident about my ability to envision the physics of it (the dynamics of practical application), and if I also had the experience to prove out that feeling of confidence.
it's always going to be much better to drill the center post, personally I wouldn't cut the insulator at all unless it was hard plastic and then only cut out a small section, like from 12 o'clock to 2 o'clock, like 1/6th of the circumference. if it's soft then I wouldn't do it at all, personally I wouldn't do it at all no matter what given the choice but in a pinch these would be my thoughts on it. actually if I had to do it in hard plastic insulator I would cut my groove as a spiral going up, would offer a bit more stability and protection by still fully wrapping the center post, yet allowing fluid passage.
drill it
drill it
it's always going to be much better to drill the center post, personally I wouldn't cut the insulator at all unless it was hard plastic and then only cut out a small section, like from 12 o'clock to 2 o'clock, like 1/6th of the circumference. if it's soft then I wouldn't do it at all, personally I wouldn't do it at all no matter what given the choice but in a pinch these would be my thoughts on it. actually if I had to do it in hard plastic insulator I would cut my groove as a spiral going up, would offer a bit more stability and protection by still fully wrapping the center post, yet allowing fluid passage.
drill it
that spiral idea is actually quite brilliant in my brain, I'll have to take a shot at it at some point
I almost went that route. Pdib did that and had problems with the post spinning in the insulator when tightening the screw when installing a new coil. I'm glad I drilled the post. Super easy to do if you take it slow and add lube.
Other people have successfully channel-cut. Not me. If one has the gumption to drill, it's so much more . . .. . . . . gooder
I've been looking at my trident and am not sure of the best way to make it a bottom-feeder. The posts are already cross-cut to place the wire in them (not drilled).
I think i'll just stick to my RM2 and normal grands.
I think i'll just stick to my RM2 and normal grands.
well since I figured I wasn't going to use the immortalizer atty on the reo I decided to put it on one of my tubes and try it out. what makes the immortalizer sweet is that it's airflow is set up much like the kayfuns, the air comes in from directly below the coil, goes around the coil and straight up the drip tip. this combined with a small chamber I'm convinced is one of the best ways to extract peak flavor from a coil
my theory is air comes in from the inlet hole as a jet stream. if your coil is too far and this jet stream disperses before hitting the coil you get a harsher vape, peak flavor is by hitting the coil directly with this jet stream of air by having the coil as close as possible to where the air stream is coming in.
when coming in from the side of a coil as most bf atties are, you can adjust coil height to adjust flavor to a certain extent. it's apparent that the flavor and vapor quality differs from different points of the coils orientation as you move the coil slightly up and down. I find it best when hitting dead center of the side if not slightly above if possible, too low and some of the incoming air goes under the coil, this adds harshness because this air looses velocity in the chamber by going under and away from the high velocity airflow, this low velocity vapor mixes back into the vape and adds harshness and throat hit
the flavor from the air coming from straight below hitting the coil and continuing straight up around the coil and out the tip seems to really bring out peak flavors with no harshness, maybe it's partially because gravity keeps more fluid at the bottom of the coil which is the face that's getting hit with the air stream jet? then there is def something about the air stream coming from the bottom straight up, hitting the sweetest part of the coil and continuing straight up through the drip tip, velocity stays highest with no L bend it has to take from a side flow atty, the aerodynamics and laminar airflow and the chamber size all play a role in the end vape and it is as good or better than a side airflow because it looses the least amount of velocity of airflow around the coil and out the drip tip.
ok so much for my theories but I only carry 2 devices daily, and that's my reo and my kayfun. the kayfun gives me as much intensity as my reo but is slightly less harsh. it's sweeter, it's just a little more peak flavor in my opinion. they are both great amazing vapes no doubt and the reo wicking is superior to the kayfun because of it's manual feed. I've thought of ways to integrate my kayfun to the reo for the best of both worlds but hesitate to butcher an almost $200 atty that works awesome. this is what attracted me so much to the immortalizer, it's like a kayfun in dripping form
so anyway, I used the immortalizer on a poldiac for a day or 2 and damn this thing tastes great. the draw is a little tight but the vape is extremely nice, sweet intense with no harshness. it's like the kayfun but in dripper mode. I really wanted to try and use it on the reo so I took it apart removed the center pin completely and tested the squonk and I'll be damned it works it actually works great I was originally thinking the lower air chamber was too large to fill and that the fluid filling up the air passages would affect it in a bad way too but after trying it on the poldiac I realized that even just dripping, eventually the lower chamber winds up getting fluid in it anyway and the immortalizer deals with fluid in the well fine, it just sucks what it can back into the chamber as you draw and the fluid doesn't really block the passages. this is what made me think it might actually work on the reo and boy it does
I drilled the lower pin of the immortalizer and mounted it. the large chamber means it needs a really deep hard squonk but it's fine because when you release it it sucks everything back down, you're filling the whole lower chamber and then filling the whole base and even filling the space between the inner and outer sleeves flooding the whole thing but then the release makes everything go back down, leaving a fully saturated wick and coil. the bottom airflow makes for a very sweet intense vape. so far I just have a basic 8 wrap 28 ga micro at .9 ohms, at 20 watts it's awesome... the air draw is a little tight, might have to massage that a little but the immortalizer is really great on the reo, flavor off the charts, with squonking to boot. the cyclone was good but if it was a solid 9 with dual coils the immortalizer is a 10 with just one, best of both worlds, kayfun taste with reo wicking and feed... it's so good that my reo is off over there on the table all by itself just dancing like mc hammer, singing can't touch this, da nan na nah, nah nah, nah nah can't touch this... it's crazy good now I def need another reo for my cyclone though it's been a few hours and I think it's finally realizing that it has lost it's home
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I drilled off to one side rather than straight through, yeah I meant to do that
pre squonk dry
squonk till fluid comes up over the coil
then recedes
and you're left with wet coil and wick, ready to vape
anyone that has a rm2 and any other straight drilled post BF atty may have noticed how the rm2 drains more completely than a drilled center pin atty no matter where the pin is drilled, the rm2 deck is sucked dry even before the squonk is fully released, reason is the chamber below the ceramic deck. the lower chamber acts like a tiny accumulator tank, an accumulation chamber. the immortalizer with it's ceramic deck is very similar to the rm2 in this regard and it completely evacuates the deck as well as the rm2 does because the ceramic deck is really above the lower deck, so it drains completely even if the actual deck remains a little wet. the ceramic deck is pretty nice...
the immortalizer being stainless steel and aluminum is actually a perfect match for my reo which is aluminum and stainless. my immortalizer looks a little different than it should because I cut it on my lathe. turns out the immortalizer is actually chrome plated stainless steel and I don't like the chrome at all so I cut it off the outside surface, no idea why they decided to chrome plate a stainless steel atty, that's the only thing negative I've found about this atty so far. other than that it's a very nice piece, great threads and build quality throughout. mine is a real one, it's #149 from the first batch imported but there are clones out there from fastech for under $20. real ones go ~$65 in the classies or ~$95 new. the cyclone and now the immortalizer are both great atties but paired with a reo they become supercharged and beyond great.... this is the best there is folks, cyclone for big thick flavorful clouds and the immortalizer for absolute peak flavor and an amazingly sweet intense yet smooth truely wonderful vape, both are awesome... but now I need another reo
my theory is air comes in from the inlet hole as a jet stream. if your coil is too far and this jet stream disperses before hitting the coil you get a harsher vape, peak flavor is by hitting the coil directly with this jet stream of air by having the coil as close as possible to where the air stream is coming in.
when coming in from the side of a coil as most bf atties are, you can adjust coil height to adjust flavor to a certain extent. it's apparent that the flavor and vapor quality differs from different points of the coils orientation as you move the coil slightly up and down. I find it best when hitting dead center of the side if not slightly above if possible, too low and some of the incoming air goes under the coil, this adds harshness because this air looses velocity in the chamber by going under and away from the high velocity airflow, this low velocity vapor mixes back into the vape and adds harshness and throat hit
the flavor from the air coming from straight below hitting the coil and continuing straight up around the coil and out the tip seems to really bring out peak flavors with no harshness, maybe it's partially because gravity keeps more fluid at the bottom of the coil which is the face that's getting hit with the air stream jet? then there is def something about the air stream coming from the bottom straight up, hitting the sweetest part of the coil and continuing straight up through the drip tip, velocity stays highest with no L bend it has to take from a side flow atty, the aerodynamics and laminar airflow and the chamber size all play a role in the end vape and it is as good or better than a side airflow because it looses the least amount of velocity of airflow around the coil and out the drip tip.
ok so much for my theories but I only carry 2 devices daily, and that's my reo and my kayfun. the kayfun gives me as much intensity as my reo but is slightly less harsh. it's sweeter, it's just a little more peak flavor in my opinion. they are both great amazing vapes no doubt and the reo wicking is superior to the kayfun because of it's manual feed. I've thought of ways to integrate my kayfun to the reo for the best of both worlds but hesitate to butcher an almost $200 atty that works awesome. this is what attracted me so much to the immortalizer, it's like a kayfun in dripping form
so anyway, I used the immortalizer on a poldiac for a day or 2 and damn this thing tastes great. the draw is a little tight but the vape is extremely nice, sweet intense with no harshness. it's like the kayfun but in dripper mode. I really wanted to try and use it on the reo so I took it apart removed the center pin completely and tested the squonk and I'll be damned it works
it actually works great I was originally thinking the lower air chamber was too large to fill and that the fluid filling up the air passages would affect it in a bad way too but after trying it on the poldiac I realized that even just dripping, eventually the lower chamber winds up getting fluid in it anyway and the immortalizer deals with fluid in the well fine, it just sucks what it can back into the chamber as you draw and the fluid doesn't really block the passages. this is what made me think it might actually work on the reo and boy it does I drilled the lower pin of the immortalizer and mounted it. the large chamber means it needs a really deep hard squonk but it's fine because when you release it it sucks everything back down, you're filling the whole lower chamber and then filling the whole base and even filling the space between the inner and outer sleeves flooding the whole thing but then the release makes everything go back down, leaving a fully saturated wick and coil. the bottom airflow makes for a very sweet intense vape. so far I just have a basic 8 wrap 28 ga micro at .9 ohms, at 20 watts it's awesome... the air draw is a little tight, might have to massage that a little but the immortalizer is really great on the reo, flavor off the charts, with squonking to boot. the cyclone was good but if it was a solid 9 with dual coils the immortalizer is a 10 with just one, best of both worlds, kayfun taste with reo wicking and feed... it's so good that my reo is off over there on the table all by itself just dancing like mc hammer, singing can't touch this, da nan na nah, nah nah, nah nah can't touch this... it's crazy good
now I def need another reo for my cyclone though it's been a few hours and I think it's finally realizing that it has lost it's home pics
I drilled off to one side rather than straight through, yeah I meant to do that
pre squonk dry
squonk till fluid comes up over the coil
then recedes
and you're left with wet coil and wick, ready to vape
anyone that has a rm2 and any other straight drilled post BF atty may have noticed how the rm2 drains more completely than a drilled center pin atty no matter where the pin is drilled, the rm2 deck is sucked dry even before the squonk is fully released, reason is the chamber below the ceramic deck. the lower chamber acts like a tiny accumulator tank, an accumulation chamber. the immortalizer with it's ceramic deck is very similar to the rm2 in this regard and it completely evacuates the deck as well as the rm2 does because the ceramic deck is really above the lower deck, so it drains completely even if the actual deck remains a little wet. the ceramic deck is pretty nice...
the immortalizer being stainless steel and aluminum is actually a perfect match for my reo which is aluminum and stainless. my immortalizer looks a little different than it should because I cut it on my lathe. turns out the immortalizer is actually chrome plated stainless steel and I don't like the chrome at all so I cut it off the outside surface, no idea why they decided to chrome plate a stainless steel atty, that's the only thing negative I've found about this atty so far. other than that it's a very nice piece, great threads and build quality throughout. mine is a real one, it's #149 from the first batch imported but there are clones out there from fastech for under $20. real ones go ~$65 in the classies or ~$95 new. the cyclone and now the immortalizer are both great atties but paired with a reo they become supercharged and beyond great.... this is the best there is folks, cyclone for big thick flavorful clouds and the immortalizer for absolute peak flavor and an amazingly sweet intense yet smooth truely wonderful vape, both are awesome... but now I need another reo
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