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I received my Miniatty two days ago. Nice idea with the coin! A small, but interesting marketing idea!

Looking first at the igotcha69 video review, I noticed that screw heads on my atty are bigger in diameter than the poles. In the video review, the screw heads are the same diameter as the poles. No way using a 2.4 mm rod for the coil ( like igotcha69), because I can't partially "sink" the coil between the posts, due to the screw heads. I also noticed that in purgen's video, he also uses a 2.5mm rod for coil. I can't, because my screw heads are too big, so I am stuck with 2mm internal diameter microcoils on 28 gauge Kanthal. Why the chimney is not 2 mm taller? Then it would have been housing a coil that is above the posts.
Scott igetcha69 reviewed a prototype as it is said at our site in the description of MiniAtty. We decided to use standard (instead of custom) screws as it helped us to reduce the price of the MiniAtty.
The chimney could be taller. That's right. I think it will be higher in the next version.
For now Chels decided to shorten the pins. That should also help. With the 1st batch of the MiniAtty, the optimal parameters to avoid shortens:
- max. wick diameter - 2mm
- the wick is between the posts, not above them
- max. Kanthal diameter - 0.28mm

After 3 builds, I managed to "nail" the wicking with japanese cotton, so, now I can say that this atty is almost fantastic. Vapor wise, it is perfectly on par with kayfun Lite Plus, which I have, if no better. Flavor wise, I say that kayfun has a small margin.

A 3ml tank would be best; mine is 2ml.
This would make the MiniAtty much longer. We decided to stay with 2ml, but maybe you're right and it would be better with 3ml.

So, Little Donkey, what about those screw heads?!

One more thing: the chimney edge is very sharp; it shaves the O ring from the upper part of the build deck. I already have 2 shavings.
Good comment. I sent a note to Chels about it. None of the reviewers told us about it.

I tried with 2mm silica, like purgen. Obviously impossible to insert two fold 2mm silica through 2mm microcoil.
He had the version which went to series. So you should have exactly the same dimensions of the MiniAtty as purgen.
 

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Has anyone bought and used the Mini Drip and have some tips and advice? Its so nice looking and the price is so low , I took a chance and Im waiting for it to get here.

The first run is still in progress. We shipped the first items less than a week ago.
Now eagerly waiting for a feedback :)
 

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I dont have a problem with the 2ml capacity, after all the whole Idea for it was to have a small tank atomizer that looked amazing, works fantastic and looks great on 16mm devices like the MicroStick but on my GP Piccolo 4 its amazing beautiful. I have my "tanks" of the tank atties, the Odys for large capacity; 5ml and its still rather slim and elegant for such a heavy tank.

I really hope to see your Mid Atty, Little Donkey. Those will be fantastic on my 22mm PAPs's.
 
Scott igetcha69 reviewed a prototype as it is said at our site in the description of MiniAtty. We decided to use standard (instead of custom) screws as it helped us to reduce the price of the MiniAtty.
The chimney could be taller. That's right. I think it will be higher in the next version.
For now Chels decided to shorten the pins. That should also help. With the 1st batch of the MiniAtty, the optimal parameters to avoid shortens:
- max. wick diameter - 2mm
- the wick is between the posts, not above them
- max. Kanthal diameter - 0.28mm


This would make the MiniAtty much longer. We decided to stay with 2ml, but maybe you're right and it would be better with 3ml.


Good comment. I sent a note to Chels about it. None of the reviewers told us about it.


He had the version which went to series. So you should have exactly the same dimensions of the MiniAtty as purgen.


Thank you for your answer. Two proposals:
1. Screws with smaller head diameter offered as spare parts. Luxury spare parts, if you want:). I will buy it!
2. For those who bought the first version of the Miniatty and want to buy the second version, it will be very nice a discount:D
 

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Hi, we already have a better solution. We've already shortened the pins for all MiniAtties that are in stock now. It became easier to setup the MiniAtty as the chamber of the chimney is higher. If you have an old version of the MiniAtty you can order those shorter pins for only $2 (international shipping for small orders is $5):
Spare parts: pins with philips screws for the MiniAtty - Mini ECIG
 

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Hey Little Donkey, I've got two MiniAttys and here's my :2c:

They both work great, but the second one has a chimney that is some what harder to get off and on. The washer does receive damage at times. Where as the first one slips on like a glove, perfect. I haven't experienced any difference with the pins. Both accept my builds just fine. I would suggest though, since this is my all day atty, solid pins similar to the Spheroid would most defenantly be a BIG plus. I would pay extra, perhaps a version 3 upgrade sort of thing;) Maybe some time when stock is developed you can offer parts such as base, chimney and tube on your web page.
Also, I'm curious why the holes were both aligned on one side on version 2? The draw seems a little bit more airy then need be but, does help to clear out juice faster if flooding does take place.

Anyways, I think both attys are a hit regardless of which one I use and finally I have some thing small, stealthy and dependent enough that will get me through a 12 hour shift at work. Oh yeah, Minneapolis is no friend to vapers anymore. Just sayin.

Keep up the good fight, Chels!!!
 

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Well, Little Donkey, I love the miniatty. It withstood my "second coil and wick test" Many times in my rebuilding history it happens that my first setup comes out perfect. Maybe because I have studied so much and usually build while watching the instructional video. But many times on the second time something goes wrong.

Im used to it as my hands are very bad and it takes me a few tries to make the coil etc. My hands shake etc. But tonight I changed the coil out and though I had to make a second coil because I got it all crimped and crooked etc. It is a wonderful little atomizer. I think that if I keep at it Im going to be as fast ( sure ) at setting up as I am now with my Odys. I have been using the Odys for years so I am able to do it without thought.

I ordered one of your Mini Drip atties. I also got the other tank with the clear window and some drip tips. We shall see if I can get it set up with ease. And if I cant get it on the second coil, well, some lucky less handicapped person can have a go at it.

I have to say that your devices are very well finished and made. Thank you.

Thank you for kind words! Such reviews make us very proud of what we do.
 

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image.jpgOk...so I've been asked by a friend of mine to post some pictures of a finished coil below the screws. The pictures show the first run with the base having two holes opposite one another. Version 2 has them side by side. Version 1 has one higher post. All and all, I've noticed no operational deference between the two. In other words, both work great. So here are some pictures that maybe helpful to any one having trouble.

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Notice after connecting the coil, use your tool threaded to the coil to lower and adjust the coil off the screw heads. Then test burn the coil to see that it burns smoothly from center outward. If the burn is hesitant or partial it's touching a screw head. Insert tool again and tweak some more, then test. After this, be sure the screws are still snug before assembling and test once more.

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The coils pictured are 28g and have 7 wraps. These measure out at 1.1 ohm.
 

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Glad that you like it :)
The chimney probably will be higher in the next run. Also we will make the chimney edge not so sharp and it will not cut the o-ring.

Hey Little Donkey, I've got two MiniAttys and here's my :2c:

Also, I'm curious why the holes were both aligned on one side on version 2?

What do you mean by that? Could you please specify how they are aligned?

And thank you once again for response!
 

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They're the venting holes on the base; image.jpg

No big deal. Was just curious why you thought the change was necessary. I assume it maybe a production thing. Either way, like I said, if flooded it's much quicker to clear out the liquid by tipping it on a napkin for a minute or two. It drains faster.
 

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I dont have a problem with the 2ml capacity, after all the whole Idea for it was to have a small tank atomizer that looked amazing, works fantastic and looks great on 16mm devices like the MicroStick but on my GP Piccolo 4 its amazing beautiful. I have my "tanks" of the tank atties, the Odys for large capacity; 5ml and its still rather slim and elegant for such a heavy tank.

I really hope to see your Mid Atty, Little Donkey. Those will be fantastic on my 22mm PAPs's.

I am glad you like it! The demand for the MidAtty was very low and we decided not to start production. If we can find at least 100 subscribers we'll start production.
You can subscribe here: MidAtty - Mini ECIG
 

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They're the venting holes on the base; View attachment 408691

No big deal. Was just curious why you thought the change was necessary. I assume it maybe a production thing. Either way, like I said, if flooded it's much quicker to clear out the liquid by tipping it on a napkin for a minute or two. It drains faster.

Your photos and instructions look so clear! Can I post them in FAQ?
As for the holes - it just slightly optimized the production.
 
Notice after connecting the coil, use your tool threaded to the coil to lower and adjust the coil off the screw heads. Then test burn the coil to see that it burns smoothly from center outward. If the burn is hesitant or partial it's touching a screw head. Insert tool again and tweak some more, then test. After this, be sure the screws are still snug before assembling and test once more.

View attachment 408630View attachment 408631View attachment 408632View attachment 408627

The coils pictured are 28g and have 7 wraps. These measure out at 1.1 ohm.


What is the diameter of the needle you used for the coil?

And why do you pull the ends of the wick through the base slots? Obviously, you will trim them, but I am interested which is the reason you made this complementary step.
 
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What is the diameter of the needle you used for the coil?

And why do you pull the ends of the wick through the base slots? Obviously, you will trim them, but I am interested which is the reason you made this complementary step.

The filling needle is 16g., slightly bigger then a 1/16 bit.image.jpg
As for the wicking, I guess I just chose to leave longer tails, kneading the ends and poking those through the base with my fingers. Then of course cutting them off as short as I could, then pulling them back up just slightly. Once I've got it lined up, I use this to push it through and pull out the base. Also to pull it back up near the coil pulling the remaining tails back in a bit...image.jpg

Anyways, I guess it's just another way to get those pesky small tails through the base.
 

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Changing the subject, because I've finally solved the problem with my Microstick button sticking. It had been binding to the point where occasionally it would even stay compressed for a moment after releasing. I'm thinking I can still hear it running:blink: cleaned the hexagon post, still happening. Steel wooled it and still happening. Reluctant to put a drop of oil on it, I brushed a bar of soap on the post. Woohoo! Just like new.

Thanks Little donkey for making it so easy to give up smoking:)
 

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Changing the subject, because I've finally solved the problem with my Microstick button sticking. It had been binding to the point where occasionally it would even stay compressed for a moment after releasing. I'm thinking I can still hear it running:blink: cleaned the hexagon post, still happening. Steel wooled it and still happening. Reluctant to put a drop of oil on it, I brushed a bar of soap on the post. Woohoo! Just like new.

Thanks Little donkey for making it so easy to give up smoking:)

Great! Happy that you've managed to solve it!
 
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