Mom and pop submarine tank

[P0P]

ROTFLMAO....you should try 2 dcc's at 6V simultaneously...it'll blow your socks off and make your head spin like a hoot owl.

the heck with the ozone my mind would melt its bad enough now lol

 

[pwyll]

ROTFLMAO....you should try 2 dcc's at 6V simultaneously...it'll blow your socks off and make your head spin like a hoot owl.

If Pop ran Grasshopper through that setup, he'd look like this:

 

[Wuzznt Me]

Dang Pop and Hairball. Why don't ya'll just pull the stove out and wire direct into 240V. A pcc ain't gonna do you any good. You're gonna need a generator for all day.

 

[pwyll]

... My vaping style is 6V with a dcc. ...

I wish that 2 second drags was all I took...I max the 10 second cutoffs. I vape like I smoked...double draw. Yet another reason I don't care for the lavatube or other mods that have a cutoff...too darn short...LOL.

What do you use? I've been handling my 6v vaping with a Prodigy 3.1 using stacked Tenergy LiFePO's. Decided to give your ten-second drag a try. It heated the drip tip up tremendously but seemed to produce a lot less vapour and only a little more flavour (though no real increase in intensity). I figured maybe the batts needed charging so I replaced them with a fresh set and get exactly the same result.

Two second drag = roughly the same vapour as fresh 3.7 with a bit more intense flavour.
Five second drag = same vapour as above with even more of an intense flavour.
Ten second drag = half (or less) of the vapour production as above, flavour somewhere in between.
Drag until the tip gets to hot to hold = almost no vapor, drop in flavour intensity and a burn taste on the exhale.



Am I over-drawing the batteries? The Prodigy is mechanical, so I can't see how it would be "dropping out," but something weird is going on. The longer the drag the more it dries out my throat so I know there is more juice/vapor being "transferred," but I never really had a hacking problem until I hit four ten-second drags within a minute to see if I could get some sort of vapour increase. Had to let the PV sit for about three minutes to let the chrome drip tip cool down, too. I've discoloured it more in the last five minutes than in the previous two months of constant use

Anyway, do you have any ideas? Because I am stumpificated...

 

[P0P]

my current project, it should give some good vaper and throat hit for a minute anyhow
1020 atty going on her so I can just give it a ZAP hehe

It doubles up as a self defense mod should sell good

 

[pwyll]

If you offer that in a double-barrel version, count me in!

 

[pwyll]

Okay, some things I have found out by messing around with this "try to be as much of a man as hairball" project:

Keep the tank filled. Even though the carto filler wasn't any "wetter," topping off the tank took care of the vapor production dropping off at longer draws.
Longer draws does nothing for me. The 10 second drag doesn't appreciably increase my flavour, vapour or throat hit, but it does dry my esophageal tissues out more.
I cannot count while vaping. My "2-3 second drags" actually turned out to be between three and six seconds when I bothered timing them, though my "10 second drags" were almost spot-on.

 

[dotma]

PWYLL and hairball, wow, its hard for me to even do a 10 second drag, I can barely hold my breath that long lol.

Pop, would be cheaper to just take a drag on your PV while sticking a fork in an outlet lol.

 

[hairball]

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What do you use? I've been handling my 6v vaping with a Prodigy 3.1 using stacked Tenergy LiFePO's. Decided to give your ten-second drag a try. It heated the drip tip up tremendously but seemed to produce a lot less vapour and only a little more flavour (though no real increase in intensity). I figured maybe the batts needed charging so I replaced them with a fresh set and get exactly the same result.

Two second drag = roughly the same vapour as fresh 3.7 with a bit more intense flavour.
Five second drag = same vapour as above with even more of an intense flavour.
Ten second drag = half (or less) of the vapour production as above, flavour somewhere in between.
Drag until the tip gets to hot to hold = almost no vapor, drop in flavour intensity and a burn taste on the exhale.

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Am I over-drawing the batteries? The Prodigy is mechanical, so I can't see how it would be "dropping out," but something weird is going on. The longer the drag the more it dries out my throat so I know there is more juice/vapor being "transferred," but I never really had a hacking problem until I hit four ten-second drags within a minute to see if I could get some sort of vapour increase. Had to let the PV sit for about three minutes to let the chrome drip tip cool down, too. I've discoloured it more in the last five minutes than in the previous two months of constant use

Anyway, do you have any ideas? Because I am stumpificated...

What do I use?...any mod that will fit 2 lifepo4 batteries.

As for dropping out, what are you using on it? I only run dcc's, tcc's, and Boge 3ohm on mine and haven't had any vapor loss. If you're using a thick liquid, you can't hit for very long or it'll burn up the juice and singe the filler.

Also, check the spring in your prodigy. If it looks black on the ends, it has collapsed at some point and will no longer make good contact. Once that happens, you will get good contact on short burst but not on longer bursts.

As for over-drawing on the batteries, just don't let them run completely down. I vape heavily, so I swap mine out every 4 hours. I also rotate them. I have colored dots that I put on one battery within a set. When I remove them from the mod, I move the dot to the other battery so that I when I put them back in after charging, I know which one got hit the hardest. That keeps them draining evenly...if that all made sense to you.

 

[pwyll]

What do I use?...any mod that will fit 2 lifepo4 batteries.

As for dropping out, what are you using on it? I only run dcc's, tcc's, and Boge 3ohm on mine and haven't had any vapor loss. If you're using a thick liquid, you can't hit for very long or it'll burn up the juice and singe the filler.

Also, check the spring in your prodigy. If it looks black on the ends, it has collapsed at some point and will no longer make good contact. Once that happens, you will get good contact on short burst but not on longer bursts.

As for over-drawing on the batteries, just don't let them run completely down. I vape heavily, so I swap mine out every 4 hours. I also rotate them. I have colored dots that I put on one battery within a set. When I remove them from the mod, I move the dot to the other battery so that I when I put them back in after charging, I know which one got hit the hardest. That keeps them draining evenly...if that all made sense to you.

At 5v I can use cartos, but at 6v I have to use a tank--and so far DCC's are the only thing I've gotten around to punching for tanks. I figured out the vapour problem, though

I check every time I change the batts, but I just double-checked again. Spring is good

It all made sense to me I have a tendency to charge the batts once a day "whether they need it or not." I tend to do all my "high-voltage" vaping at home, and even then I still hit the other mods, so they usually get charged well before they have "four hours" of use. And I have four sets of the LiFePO's, but so far I've just been rotating two of the sets...

Thanks!

 

[P0P]

sorry folks just want to step in for a moment

All the carts are in stock bogi 3.0 2.0 STK 1.7 stainless

Thank you

see!

 

[waynebrady]

Awesome video! Dotma, you're very photogenic or something.

Now, as a newbie who hasn't yet got his mini-sub + lavatube in yet, I wish I could find a video showing how to properly change the cartomizer in the minisub. I've browsed youtube for mini-sub video tutorials but the only one I see is yours. Maybe I'm overthinking it ... maybe I change these out just like a normal smoketech tank?

 

[pwyll]

Most tanks, Smoketech included, have hard endcaps while these have soft, flexible vinyl grommets--that means the "push-through procedure" used for most tanks will just end up being messy for these.

To change the carto, make sure you have an empty tank, either by vaping dry or emptying with a syring (or not caring about losing juice and getting messy fingers). Take the thumbscrew out of the tank, then disassemble the tank. Reassembly follows this procedure:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9749-loving-my-new-mini-tank.html#post5336942

 

[waynebrady]

To change the carto, make sure you have an empty tank, either by vaping dry or emptying with a syring (or not caring about losing juice and getting messy fingers). Take the thumbscrew out of the tank, then disassemble the tank. Reassembly follows this procedure:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9749-loving-my-new-mini-tank.html#post5336942

Thanks for the link. I wish it were a video instead lol.

Really, for nubs, it would be 100% more beneficial. Maybe someone will create one oneday.

 

[waynebrady]

Aha! I assume dis/assembling the subs would work similar to the Notta. Around the corner I found these instructions with pictures and all that: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...stormys-baby-notta-tank-assembly-filling.html

I feel a lot more comfortable about this now.

 

[vafromnc]

The best tank system in the world. I wish I had 10 of them.

 

[ChellyNelly]

I just love my mini sub The biggest advantage, in my eyes, of these tanks over any other is the thumb screw filling port. It is SO convenient. I would like to know how the threading into the tubing is done? I wonder because it just bites so well. Even if the screw is only a half-turn on there it won't leak or fall out because there's such a great grip on it.

Thanks for another awesome product Mom & Pop

 

[dekalbave]

Just got my first minis yesterday, and wow, I don't know why I'd look for any other tank (after reading about all the problems with them, that is). Even the juice tastes better - I don't know why, but it is somehow "purer" or something.

My only problem: I think I'm vaping too much already!

So I want to thank Mom and Pop, and all the ECF members who've recommended these. I rarely get anything wonderful on the first try, but this time I did.

 

[BrotherFrankie]

sure private vids.. shame on yall

 

[BrotherFrankie]

i received my first ever tank today.. mom and pops mini.. filled it up with their RY4 and a bit of WTA..

Let it sit for 5 min... awesome at 5.0 wonderful... thanks folks great mod.. this noob feels like a vet.. (spent enough past thirty days to be a vet.. im dreading the total.. but i used to spend $120 week on analogs so a month and some invested... still smoke free and my dr's are happy)



edit: wow, that is some serious vaping... i am in love....

metro gas staion starter kit in january..
i went from apollo extreme
to TGO-T apollo
to
ego t Giantomizer ce2
to

VV Apollo with a drip tip

to mom and pops mini on the VV at 4.5-5v and am in awe... LOL