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Montana Enacts Flavor Ban

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  1. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    My own state. We didn't see this coming so soon. Montana typically doesn't follow the trends of the west and east coast. Encouraged by Montana Health and Human Services, of course. Becomes effective Oct. 22nd, a 4 month ban on flavored electronic cigarettes and "vaping products".....I'm assuming that covers mods and atomizers as well. AND of course an online purchase ban. You know, Montana is a very underpopulated state, approximately 1 million in the entire state. We don't have a really large vaping population and we certainly don't have a vaping "epidemic" here. I'm still in shock, I only found out about this tonight. I just am so relieved I'm fully stocked up on nicotine and mods and atomizers. Feel really horrible for the poor folks on limited incomes who only have 2 weeks to stock up, and don't diy. And all the shop closings coming up. And we're a pretty large state, if you're in the center you might have to drive 250-300 miles to the nearest vape shop in another state. Thanks Governor Bullock, thanks for slapping the faces of all the adult vapers who are trying to stay off smokes. Thanks a hell of a lot.
     
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  2. Haktuspit

    Haktuspit Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2013
    Denver, CO
    Got a link for us? So sorry to hear, that's horrible. Glad to know you're stocked up and didn't get caught unprepared.
     
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  3. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    There are plenty of news sites that are reporting it now, take your pick Hak. And thanks for the kind words, you're a good dude (unless you're a dudette...lol). Just hope your state gives you some time yet.
     
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  4. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Thinking these governors are getting pressure from their parties to enact these extreme and sudden bans.
     
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  5. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    I'm in Michigan with a flavor ban. A careful reading of the rules tells me the rules apply ONLY to sellers. I can mail order from out of state so long as it's for personal use. Wise to read the actual rule to see how it aplies.
     
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  6. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Some vendors will not mail to these states legal or not. Just like they won't mail to states that exert heavy taxes.
     
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  7. Haktuspit

    Haktuspit Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2013
    Denver, CO
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  8. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    We will see...I haven't been able to find any official document to review as yet. At least we have 2 weeks to frenzy-order if we want to, that's longer than alot of you guys had been given.
     
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  9. Jman8

    Jman8 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2013
    Wisconsin
    That's a good question. Don't know myself, but I would guess it's to put small/medium businesses out of commission and allow big vape to survive. Easier to control going forward.
     
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  10. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    Exactly.
     
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  11. Blitzdonlife

    Blitzdonlife Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 24, 2012
    Central Texas
    Another state, that sucks. Hang in there, I'm glad you are stocked up. Hopefully the vape shop owners pursue legal action.

    I'm anxiously anticipating a ban in Texas. San Antonio is under fire, it's only a matter of time until the state goes ape****. Texas is strongly conservative, but Austin, the capitol, is strongly liberal. I don't know if political parties will make any difference in decisions on vaping. I'm hoping Texas holds out. Even if we don't, we are a state with a history of rebels, outlaws, and strong individual free thinkers.

    Wishing you the best
     
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  12. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    I hope you,re given a little more time to prep Blitz and that you are all set for what's coming. All the best to you too.
     
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  13. Blitzdonlife

    Blitzdonlife Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 24, 2012
    Central Texas
    I've got most of what I need. Flavors and more VG, some more squonk attys, other than that I should be ok. The main concern I have is this hit at a bad time. Work is at an all time low for me, and so are funds. Timing is everything, if I can scrape up $200 for the last of my stocking needs, I'll make it. If not, well, it is what it is. Good luck to you also CosmicGopher.
     
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  14. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    As they are emergency executive orders and not actual legislation, they have to come with a time period. So it depends on the state's laws whether it can be say 90 or 120 days (or 6 months or whatever the state constitution allows). In most cases it can also be renewed after the initial 90 or 120 days if the "emergency" is still considered an ongoing problem.
     
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  15. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    Yep, this very conveniently removes the vape shops and all those 'dirty' vapors from sight. They have no idea what they're starting...black market like you won't believe...think those kids won't find juice? And what kind of juice, mixed up by some 19 year old in his basement.
     
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  16. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    I was able to reach the Governor's office from work today, and voiced my objection to this ban. The aide had been cordial during the call, but pointed out that this ban was for the benefit of the majority of Montanans, and that their statistics showed that "while only 5 percent of adult montanans vaped, that 30 percent of those under 18 years vaped". I indicated that I disagreed with those statistics, and asked where those had come from...I was told that those statistics had come from the state bureau of Health and Human Services. I also asked if that 30 percent of kids had just tried it once, or were routine vapers, and was told that that data was not available. Nuff said. Progressive brick wall. I will ask tho, that if there are any other Montanans viewing this, to please call Governor Bullock's office at 1-406-444-3111.
     
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  17. classwife

    classwife Admin Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Moved to Legislation News
     
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