moving away from vv...

[Orobas]

I got a KGO VV and a Twist just to see what it's all about.

And they stay on 3.7v. *shrugs* I haven't really gotten any higher resistance stuff to play with yet, though, but I have an iTaste coming in the mail, primarily because I want to get into rewicking my vivi nova heads myself and want to be able to determine the resistance of my sloppy coils, so perhaps in the near future I'll understand what the big deal is.

 

[SissySpike]

I say why not? You don't need most of the extras in your car but they sure make driving more enjoyable. Who needs 1080p when most tv shows aren't broadcasted in that high of resolution, Who need a tera bite and 8 gigs of ram in their lap top? You are correct you can do the math buy different ohm accessories to do what a VV but Id rather just click the button or turn the dial. We use to hunt with rocks and spears, but now we can go to the store, I know not the same or is it...............

 

[tj99959]

I say why not? You don't need most of the extras in your car but they sure make driving more enjoyable. Who needs 1080p when most tv shows aren't broadcasted in that high of resolution, Who need a tera bite and 8 gigs of ram in their lap top? You are correct you can do the math buy different ohm accessories to do what a VV but Id rather just click the button or turn the dial. We use to hunt with rocks and spears, but now we can go to the store, I know not the same or is it...............

Tell ya what, you can take 4 different types of PV's (VV or not), set at the same voltage, all with the same heads, filled with juice from the same bottle, and they will all taste different. There is a lot more to it than just adjusting the voltage.

 

[haiqu]

I've just bought my first continuously variable device but haven't used it since the batteries aren't here yet. One concern I had was the large number of reports of eGo Twist failures, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy one of those. But a nice compromise is the newer 3-step VV batteries without continuous variability. They allow you to dial in 3.0, 3.5 or 4.0 volts to allow for atty resistance and/or juice density issues.

Simple, cheap and quite useful.

 

[scoopbb]

Tell ya what, you can take 4 different types of PV's (VV or not), set at the same voltage, all with the same heads, filled with juice from the same bottle, and they will all taste different. There is a lot more to it than just adjusting the voltage.

id like to see that happen, blind folded of course. would be interesting. being able to see the pvs would introduce subjective bias.

 

[Orobas]

id like to see that happen, blind folded of course. would be interesting. being able to see the pvs would introduce subjective bias.

Someone else would have to fire the button though, because being able to FEEL it would cause a similar bias.

 

[artt]

I've owned one inexpensive vv box mod($35.00). It lasted 2 months with only sporadic use and just quit working. For me I just don't like the idea of purchasing a more expensive vv apv and if something goes wrong dealing with the trouble of "sending it back". A 18650 , 2600 mah battery in a mechanical mod will start out at 4.18 volts fully charged and by the end of the day will still only be at somewhere around 3.7 volts for me. With a 1.7 ohm carto it still hits pretty good even at 3.7, and of course I could also change the battery out sooner. Admitting the drawbacks with an all mechanical apv, I like the simplicity and reliability of it.

 

[NancyR]

I have tired a provari a friend of mine owns, it is a well built unit, but ya know it doesn't give any better vape for me than my mechanical iHybrid does, so while I may at some point get a VV, I don't need it. I even had a kick, I gave it away as I couldn't find a spot on it that beat what I had without it.

But the nice thing about all the choices out is people can find what works best for them.

 

[zapped]

I have tired a provari a friend of mine owns, it is a well built unit, but ya know it doesn't give any better vape for me than my mechanical iHybrid does, so while I may at some point get a VV, I don't need it. I even had a kick, I gave it away as I couldn't find a spot on it that beat what I had without it.

But the nice thing about all the choices out is people can find what works best for them.

I agree with you on the last part but having that 'perfect hit" that non-variable voltage devices only get for 2-3 puffs on a fully charged battery is why i went to VV to start with,so I can have that all day, every day.

Did you try your friends Provari for puff or two or did you use it all day because thats where it really shines.

 

[TechJ]

Heya Nancy!

The one nice thing about the kick I value most with my iHybrid is the low voltage cutoff. Granted I've never used mine without the kick.

 

[vapomike]

I actually found myself going away from variable voltage devices. I use a bolt and a reo right now. I just use dual coil tanks with the bolt at 7.4v and cisco's on my reo. I'm pretty happy with them both. I do have a spinner kit on the way for vaping out in public as I find the VV allows for better stealth vaping and when I'm in the car I can always kick it up a notch. That's the only thing I miss about my vv mods. The bolt and reo setup with the proper carto/atty kick out about the same vapor albeit the bolt does provide a warmer vape. I slowly just worked myself to a multiple device rather than VV. I find that differing delivery systems work better at certain voltages, but aren't comfortable in the same form factor. I love the feel of the 306 atty on my reo and my tanks on bolt. It's all about what works for you.

 

[DancingHeretik]

I must say, whilst I've enjoyed vv devices, they've become rather pointless. I've found once you understand the math in the electrics (genuinely not as hard as I thought) then you can work out the wattage that's going to be put through a certain carto/Atty anyway. Yes, without a true fixed and stable voltage there will be fluctuations, but I'm finding them rather unappealing now...
Has anyone else moved away from vv? Or am I just working against common sense here in favour of lower cost devices? Hahaha

I like having VV for when I need it. But, when I can avoid it, I will. Why not just get what works on fixed voltage? Why complicate things?

I still like having VV around for when something isn't hitting quite right. I can adjust the voltage for that one thing, that one time. And, otherwise, I stick with my regular batteries. Less fiddling, less hassle.

I know VV isn't a LOT more hassle. But, I just don't enjoy it. I've got all this stuff that seems so cool and end up not even using it.

However, it sure is handy for some juices and some atties. It makes things usable that I would have had to throw out otherwise.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

I skipped VV again today. I skipped it when I got my reo, and loved it. I am now skipping it today, for VW...so I guess I am cheating.

Get what works for you! I have mechanical, VV, VW, and unregulated electronic. I am not smoking.

 

[deweylasv]

I couldn't agree more! You simply cannot get the longevity from a non-VV/VW.... As you vape, the batts will turn out less power. Whereas, with VV/VW, the power stays exactly the same throughout the life of the batts. It's in the technology, and it simply cannot be beat, even if you just stay at the same setting! VV is the way to go, hands down! I must admit, however, I still do vape my 3.7's once in a while...while my VV is charging.

 

[ricks]

I couldn't agree more! You simply cannot get the longevity from a non-VV/VW.... As you vape, the batts will turn out less power. Whereas, with VV/VW, the power stays exactly the same throughout the life of the batts. It's in the technology, and it simply cannot be beat, even if you just stay at the same setting! VV is the way to go, hands down! I must admit, however, I still do vape my 3.7's once in a while...while my VV is charging.

I agree with you on the fact that a Non VV PV will go from say 4.3v down to 3.5v. I found myself charging my PV's way before they got weak. Ever since VV came out, it's been the only way to vape for me.

 

[tj99959]

If you are going to use a simplistic 3.7v device batteries that are up to the task become a must. It's as simple as that.

 

[fourthrok]

I like having VV for when I need it. But, when I can avoid it, I will. Why not just get what works on fixed voltage? Why complicate things?

I still like having VV around for when something isn't hitting quite right. I can adjust the voltage for that one thing, that one time. And, otherwise, I stick with my regular batteries. Less fiddling, less hassle.

I know VV isn't a LOT more hassle. But, I just don't enjoy it. I've got all this stuff that seems so cool and end up not even using it.

This is me, too. I have VV devices....LT, eGo Twist and kGo VV...they are okay. But I don't really USE them anymore. Except in the case like described above, trying to "correct" a vape that isn't working for me. I know what wattage I like to vape (6 to 7..but will drop a little lower sometimes depending on what's going on). I have found I'm happiest using a 3.7 mod type device (eGo T Mod, telescope and 3.7 Gripper), and mostly 2ohm single coils (EMSCC, XL 2ohm single coil or carto/tanks). I'm not interested in using a variety of juice flavors. I didn't switch cigarette flavors when I smoked (unless forced to due to price increases) and I don't with vaping. That's that. I make my own juice, and it's geared to be at it's best vaped between 3.4 to 3.7 volts. I have no need or desire for VV. But I'm not your usual vaper like most here on ECF. Everyone is different, after all.

 

[tnt56]

but I have an iTaste coming in the mail, primarily because I want to get into rewicking my vivi nova heads myself and want to be able to determine the resistance of my sloppy coils, so perhaps in the near future I'll understand what the big deal is.

Orobas: I have an Itaste. It won't tell the resistance. It just suggest a proper voltage range. I use it daily at work because of the pen clip for my uniform.

 

[tnt56]

To the OP, I'm actually looking at a single voltage device. I've got 3 twist, 1 spinner, 1 Itaste and a vmax. I'm not good at math but I think if I go with a sturdy device and LR boges in a carto/tank, I'll be happy. I'd like to have a VW for the "Set it and Forget it" method but haven't found one that fits my needs yet. So I'm thinking about going backwards on the techy stuff.

 

[Big Mac]

Howdy folks,

I started vaping with 2 x 650 twists. I then bought myself a LavaTube, another VV. Both are wonderful. Recently, I purchased a VModXL, nice mechanical, no VV, BF. It's great. I found that I was using th VVs at 3.5-4.0, so the VMod, for me, works well.

I guess, if we weren't all different, vaping different juices, wanting different things out of our vaping, there would only be two types of devices, a big one and a little one. Ya'll do whatever keeps ya happy, right now, for me, it's a mech mod BF. Who knows what tomorrow, next week, or next year will bring.

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