Thanks for all the input. Now waiting for on delivery to try buffaloguy's recipe.
I've tried the other "tobacco" flavored juices from AVE, 555, Cuban Gold, Gamel, Honestly, they all taste very similar, Cuban being the only one I liked at all, his tobaccos I've tried have a very distinct honey taste to me, didn't care for them if you use one of the internet archives you can see what else he was selling back in the early days.
I seriously think all these guesses, including bakery, cinnamon, ETC are not wrong, but are picking up traits of the tobacco flavors I was pretty set on him using a NET, but the further I've delved into this, the less I think this to be the case.
As Flex mentioned, and as I said before, most if not all of the flavors can be attributed to tobacco flavoring. And while some recipes may replicate some of those flavors using cinnamon, vanilla, what have you, going down this path will never result in reaching the goal.
Here is one of my favorite Cigar reviews, I would love to do an extraction on one of these, unfortunately I believe they are no longer produced, and unavailable, if anyone knows of a source hit me up!
Xikar HC Habano² Review | Cigar Nubs
I'm going to use that one day. LoL. The examples they use is hilarious. It kind of works with what were doing to clone BB...Do It Yourself (Bleepin) Self....or pay the piper.
That looks more like slohand and eitano recipes more than buffalo's. I think buffalo added the 555. I'm confused don't mind me if I'm wrong.Keep in mind here that I have never tried genuine Boba's and I have no interest in doing so.![]()
I took buffaloguy's "other" recipe and made my own take on it.-I am not sure if it tastes more or less like real Boba's or not. It does not matter to me. This is easily the best mix I have EVER made IMO other than my menthol tobaccos for an ADV. I am making a 60 ml batch of this as we speak. Anybody that has these ingredients- give it a shot. I am not saying that this is a clone of Boba's. I am saying that this tastes incredible and I just HAVE to share this!!! Scenarios like this are why DIY can be extremely rewarding......
{For tobacco absolute mix here, I took 1.5 ml Azure TA and diluted to 15ml with PG and 1%EM. This mix has been steeping for months}
10% tobacco absolute mix
2% TFA Mild Black
5% TFA Cinnamon Danish
5% TFA Graham Cracker Clear
2% TFA Double Chocolate Dark
1% FA Coconut
1% EM
FA Cinnamon- one drop per 3 ml of finished juice {example: for 15 ml of juice, add 5 drops}
I use a base with 15mg nic, 40PG/40VG/10DW but you could use any percentages here.
A million thanks to Buffaloguy for sharing his great recipe. Without it, I would have never, ever thought of this.......![]()
That looks more like slohand and eitano recipes more than buffalo's. I think buffalo added the 555. I'm confused don't mind me if I'm wrong.
That looks more like slohand and eitano recipes more than buffalo's. I think buffalo added the 555. I'm confused don't mind me if I'm wrong.
yep, thats it. i just dont make it in those quantities. You can certainly leave the EM out but then its not TA blend. When I make this from scratch in PG I do use EM. As Ive said tho it could well be Ben just uses TA pure in VG. Using two drops of TA pure in 10ml might be too much for some folks. Some people recommend one drop. I personally use two.
Keep in mind here that I have never tried genuine Boba's and I have no interest in doing so.![]()
I took buffaloguy's "other" recipe and made my own take on it.-I am not sure if it tastes more or less like real Boba's or not. It does not matter to me. This is easily the best mix I have EVER made IMO other than my menthol tobaccos for an ADV. I am making a 60 ml batch of this as we speak. Anybody that has these ingredients- give it a shot. I am not saying that this is a clone of Boba's. I am saying that this tastes incredible and I just HAVE to share this!!! Scenarios like this are why DIY can be extremely rewarding......
{For tobacco absolute mix here, I took 1.5 ml Azure TA and diluted to 15ml with PG and 1%EM. This mix has been steeping for months}
10% tobacco absolute mix
2% TFA Mild Black
5% TFA Cinnamon Danish
5% TFA Graham Cracker Clear
2% TFA Double Chocolate Dark
1% FA Coconut
1% EM
FA Cinnamon- one drop per 3 ml of finished juice {example: for 15 ml of juice, add 5 drops}
I use a base with 15mg nic, 40PG/40VG/10DW but you could use any percentages here.
A million thanks to Buffaloguy for sharing his great recipe. Without it, I would have never, ever thought of this.......![]()
So do you think that a 1/32 teaspoon of Tobacco Absolute in 15mls of PG would be too much? I have a 1/32 tsp and it's really small. It could maybe fit 3 or possibly four drops of TA in a level scoop of a 1/32 tsp.
I'm just going to go off of taste for now when I mix Dan's mix for the TA and EM and see how it pans out in the final mix of buffaloguy's recipe, and adjust from there.
I tested my juice vs. Bobas. So I tried to remove any variables between devices Im vaping this on and I wanted the most accurate flavor I could. So I popped open two new 2.4ohm 510 bridgeless attys. I find these to be excellent for testing and comparing juices. I got out two vamos both set to 6watts, then 7watts, then 8watts. I wanted to cycle thru the flavor range. I have saline on hand to swish in my mouth to clean my palatte between sampling. There is no variation in gear. One loaded with actual bobas and the other with the recipe I posted last week.
Had the vamo with bobas in it not had an ego ring in the drip well I would have had to start over. Reason, as I vaped them side by side my brain got a bit scrambled between which was live, and which one was memorex. Truly, its that darn close to my palatte. Im not the only one. My girlfriend tried them and I didnt tell here which was which, she even got confused. Now shes not a vaper usually. Only when I ask her to try something to tell me if flavors are good. Shes never smoked in her life.
However, this is what I will say on my recipe now that Im not working from memory on Bobas.... the only thing wrong with it is the dk555 needs to go up maybe 1% and there is a bit of that floral TA floweryness in the background going on that likely means the TA Blend isnt correct.... sort of. Ill explain why tho.
The differences between my recipe and actual bobas is now about only the difference in ACTUAL ingredients. What I mean is, where Ive used TA Blend he is likely using just one drop of TA pure diluted in 10 to 15ml of VG with little to likely NO EM in it. Where Im using TPA DK/555, he is using diyfs 555. Where I am using VZ black and mild he is using diyfs Blackjack. Is cinnamon danish correct? Maybe not, but hell if I can think of a different buttery cinnamon that will work. The seedmans? My recipe performs better with it than without it entirely I think. I may need to reduce it a tad but its helping keep the TA in check so it works.
Imo, coconut... out. Graham cracker.... out. Added chocolate or vanilla... out. Hazelnuts, almonds, peanuts... out. I have the flavor profile correct.
Im my opinion (and Im only one guy maybe alone on my island... lol) now it is only about playing with actual possible ingredients as I mentioned above and nailing percentages. The "flavor profile" which concerns me more than nailing his recipe 100% item for item is where I absolutely feel this is a firm direct Bobas clone. Good enough infact to fool people who likely have vaped bobas, know how it tastes.
I did test two other versions of this recipe. One without seedmans and one with more dk/555 in it. Both with less water and 85% vg content. The latter of which, frankly, is better than Bobas bounty as an all day vape. Ill post that up tomorrow sometime.