My Chuck Blew Up---LITERALLY

[Drozd]

is this the equivalent of the 10440?

no equivalent to a 14500..

these batteries the number is actually their dimensions (10440= 10mm diameter by 44mm long) and (14500= 14mm diameter by 50mm long)... the last 0 is a placeholder

 

[raqball]

I have yet to fid or read anywhere a AW battery exploding... On top of that they list the real mah unlike the *fire brands that tend to add a few hundred to the rating...

I also read a thread somewhere where Chinese battery sellers were actually selling fake LifePo4 that were really unprotected CR2's in disguise..

Plenty of other stories about some unscrupulous overseas sellers wanting to sell mislabeled batteries to US suppliers and the US suppliers turned them down because of their dishonest practices...

I think I will stick with AW bands whenever possible....

My .02

Kris

 

[mpetva]

MPetve--right here. See Protected UltraFire 14500 AA sized 3.6V Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery 900 mAh CR14500 Lithium Ion

Thank you Sun!

Would you happen to know if this fits the Protege?

 

[raqball]

is this the equivalent of the 10440?

No.... A 10440 is basically AAA sized and a 14500 is about the size of a AA

Kris

 

[JamBandPhan]

OK, thanks Drozd,

would the 14500 be the one to use in the little chuck?

I am also trying to find the 10440 protected that actually says it's protected on the label... for my laser mod. I can't seem to find anything but the gray trustfire, that does not say it is protected on the label, but is being sold as a protected battery...

 

[Sun Vaporer]

OK, thanks Drozd,

would the 14500 be the one to use in the little chuck?

I am also trying to find the 10440 protected that actually says it's protected on the label... for my laser mod. I can't seem to find anything but the gray trustfire, that does not say it is protected on the label, but is being sold as a protected battery...

Jam --the Lil Chuck uses the 16340.


Sun

 

[JamBandPhan]

my mistake, I'm getting tired and have been staring at this screen waaaay too long
I already ordered my little chuck batteries anyway, they are in shipping limbo right now. I just hope they are what they are supposed to be when I get them. I will be sure to check them over carefully before I ever try to use them. I would definitely rather waste a few dollars to get better ones, if they don't end up having "protected" somewhere on the label.

 

[skydragon]

OK, thanks Drozd,

would the 14500 be the one to use in the little chuck?

I am also trying to find the 10440 protected that actually says it's protected on the label... for my laser mod. I can't seem to find anything but the gray trustfire, that does not say it is protected on the label, but is being sold as a protected battery...

Jam,

MadVapes has protected 10440's but not sure how they will work in the laser.

 

[Poeia]

The Little Chuck can use 2 models of batteries:

18350 - AW does not make this. It is very hard to find to find protected ones. (The unprotected are orange.) Mad Vapes does carry them but they are out of stock.

16340 - also known as RCR123A, CR123A, etc. AW does have a 16340 LiMN battery.

 

[Drozd]

The Little Chuck can use 2 models of batteries:

18350 - AW does not make this. It is very hard to find to find protected ones. (The unprotected are orange.) Mad Vapes does carry them but they are out of stock.

16340 - also known as RCR123A, CR123A, etc. AW does have a 16340 LiMN battery.

That one would be my first choice...available here:
AW IMR16340 550 mAh IMR CR123 size LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery

Followed by this one:
AW RCR123a Protected 750 mAh Battery

 

[chiquita]

I ordered the CR123A protected from MadVapes are those ok to use in the little chuck?
My chuck hasn't been born yet but just wondering.

 

[Drozd]

I ordered the CR123A protected from MadVapes are those ok to use in the little chuck?
My chuck hasn't been born yet but just wondering.

I'm sure they probably will be....and probably would be my third or fourth choice if I were after CR123a batteries..it's just to me personally it seems like the *fire brands are usually over rated as far as their real mAh and well there are so many variations on the labels that they just seem kinda off to me and that doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence..on the upside that'd probably encourage me to monitor them more closely which is a good thing..

 

[New_World]

Question???

Is it better to have vent holes in your PV?


ALSO
Is where is the best place to have vent holes on a PV?
Bottom cap seems like it might shoot at your face.

 

[New_World]

I'm glad to hear you are OK!!!!
750+ CHUCKS out and this is the first inident I have heard of.
While it sucks, it definately reinforces the importance of protected batteries.

Now, here is what I am proposing to you...
I want to examine your CHUCK! I have tried to induce a battery venting at least a dozen times for testing and they would never cooperate.

If you send it to me, I will build you a replacement... NO CHARGE.

Once again, glad you are alright!

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MidnighToker]

OK, I just skimmed through this thread and saw some posts that are VERY disturbing... (my apologies if they were covered elsewhere that I did not see.)

That said, the initial "R" for rechargeable is definitely not always there. The only size that ever seems to have it is the CR123A and even they only have it sometimes.

For example, here's the page for Li-ion Rechargeables at Battery Junction where the only initial R is for the "16340 / RCR123A." And, if we click through to that battery we find that it's the "Ultrafire 3.6V 880mah Protected Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery RCR123A CR123A 16340 CR16340 (as low as) $3.25!" Out of 4 names for the same battery, only one starts with an "R."

Huh?! In both of you examples here, there are multiple models listed (many thing have multiple part numbers for different applications/target audience) On BOTH of your examples, the RCR123A was listed as one of these part numbers. Common sense would dictate that they can be used in that application as well as others that may have a lesser "requirement".

IMO, the only real mistake TheBigD made was that he didn't notice that the website he bought from had sent him batteries that were not protected.

Not PROTECTED? That's what you got from that?! How about NOT RECHARGEABLE? You can go into just about any Walmart and find CR123A PRIMARIES in the photo section. I believe that the difference here is that Walmart's state "DO NOT RECHARGE!!!"

And it's been my impression that all Li-ion batteries are protected. True/False???

VERY false!

I think a lot of the problem is that there are so many batteries out there that many of us wonder if the batteries that we have are truly protected, especially after hearing of accidents like this.]

As I asked before, I don't know if my ICR123a's are protected or not. It does not 'state' that they are protected on the batteries themselves. Does that mean they are not?? Again, I bought them on the website from which I bought the mod.

My personal opinion/advise here...if you're not sure...don't use them. If I am not sure if I filled my gas tank with gasoline or ether, you can be DAMNED sure that I will not be turning that key.

As D stated, many of us aren't electrical engineers with a full knowledge of battery workings.

I try to purchase the batteries that are for sale on the website through which I purchase my mod. But I've come to question even THAT way of purchasing batteries.

Well, you HAVE to make yourself at least a little educated here. There are not THAT many different types..especially when most mods use the same 4 or 5 batts.

If you decided that you wanted to buy a handgun, wouldn't you at least become a LITTLE educated about the gun and what kind of ammo it CAN use? When you walk in somewhere to buy ammo for your gun, the owner/salesman are not necessarily know what you are shooting...nor is it their responsibility to unless you TELL them what you need it for. Same with the battery manufacturers/dealers. Unless you tell them what it's for, they have NO idea (not that many will have an idea of WTF a "HV battery mod" is anyway..



Come on sheeple. Take some responsibility for yourselves and stop assuming that it's other sheeple's responsibility to educate your a** cuz you don't feel like it

 

[georgiasl]

well said MidnighToker. I'm new to all of this but I read for about three hours and posted 2 questions before I placed my battery order. The information is out there you just have to look for it and read it; and if you can't find it ask! This is one of those situations where it is better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Lilibet]

I ordered the CR123A protected from MadVapes are those ok to use in the little chuck?
My chuck hasn't been born yet but just wondering.

MadVapes sells the CR123A in 3.0 volts and 3.7 volts. Which one did you buy? According to Jeff's website, the little Chuck takes the 3.7V.

 

[Poeia]

OK, I just skimmed through this thread and saw some posts that are VERY disturbing... (my apologies if they were covered elsewhere that I did not see.)


Huh?! In both of you examples here, there are multiple models listed (many thing have multiple part numbers for different applications/target audience) On BOTH of your examples, the RCR123A was listed as one of these part numbers. Common sense would dictate that they can be used in that application as well as others that may have a lesser "requirement".

In my first example, the top of the page clearly states that all of the 9 batteries on that page are rechargeable yet only one has a name that begins with "R."

I clicked on that one (in the top right-hand corner) to get to my second example. It is ONE battery which they show as having 4 possible names. Only one of those names begin with an R -- that was the RCR123A. But, regardless of what name you use for it, it is still the same battery and it is rechargeable.

 

[ECCO]

Well, you HAVE to make yourself at least a little educated here. There are not THAT many different types..especially when most mods use the same 4 or 5 batts.

If you decided that you wanted to buy a handgun, wouldn't you at least become a LITTLE educated about the gun and what kind of ammo it CAN use? When you walk in somewhere to buy ammo for your gun, the owner/salesman are not necessarily know what you are shooting...nor is it their responsibility to unless you TELL them what you need it for. Same with the battery manufacturers/dealers. Unless you tell them what it's for, they have NO idea (not that many will have an idea of WTF a "HV battery mod" is anyway..

Come on sheeple. Take some responsibility for yourselves and stop assuming that it's other sheeple's responsibility to educate your a** cuz you don't feel like it

Well said (even if the word 'sheeple' makes me cringe). I've spent untold hours reading on the various e-cig forums to minimize mistakes and wasted money. I hate to make mistakes period, and when you're playing with something that could potentially become a pipe bomb and cause injury or property damage if you're not careful, it's even more important.

It doesn't take an engineering degree or even a serious investment of time, just a little common sense and understanding of the potential danger. A little bit of research beats reconstructive surgery or burn treatments every time in my book. And this really isn't rocket science. Everyone should take the time to learn how to be careful, and take the necessary steps to minimize the risks inherent in using big battery mods.

 

[Amajn]

I'm gonna be a little harsh here But........


The end result from this POST should be less about the danger of batteries

and more about the danger of acting Foolish/Dumb trying to RECHARGE a Non-rechargable Batt

Plain and simple this guy bought non recharg cheap 2 for $1.98 batts and kept trying to charge them.......................... no where on the site he was on do they sell rechargable batts

He was looking to buy cheap and acted dumb


its common sense to buy rechargable protected batts its all over this subforum

OP is ok but has learned a lesson


Dont let it happen to yourself

Buy protected use basic logic