My Chuck Blew Up---LITERALLY

[Thyestean]

As D stated, many of us aren't electrical engineers with a full knowledge of battery workings.

I try to purchase the batteries that are for sale on the website through which I purchase my mod. But I've come to question even THAT way of purchasing batteries.

Well, you HAVE to make yourself at least a little educated here. There are not THAT many different types..especially when most mods use the same 4 or 5 batts.

If you decided that you wanted to buy a handgun, wouldn't you at least become a LITTLE educated about the gun and what kind of ammo it CAN use? When you walk in somewhere to buy ammo for your gun, the owner/salesman are not necessarily know what you are shooting...nor is it their responsibility to unless you TELL them what you need it for. Same with the battery manufacturers/dealers. Unless you tell them what it's for, they have NO idea (not that many will have an idea of WTF a "HV battery mod" is anyway..

While your point is sound your analogy is off. In the statement you quoted she said she bought the batteries that were recommended and sold by the vendor selling the mod she was going to use them in. That isn't the same as buying the mod one place and then going elsewhere to buy the batteries without telling them what they are for.

However the majority of the vendors do state on the site whether the batteries are protected or not and people just need to pay attention to that. If the vendor doesn't list that information then all it takes is an email to the vendor or a little research to find out what you need to know.

 

[RuneDK]

Sorry to hear about your accident mate. Hope everything is ok with you.

put up some pics of the batteries used?

 

[raqball]

I'm gonna be a little harsh here But........

acting Foolish/Dumb trying to RECHARGE a Non-rechargable Batt

Plain and simple this guy bought non recharg cheap 2 for $1.98 batts and kept trying to charge them.......................... no where on the site he was on do they sell rechargable batts

He was looking to buy cheap and acted dumb

That was more than a little harsh.... I'd say it was completely uncalled for...

Wow, simply wow... The OP makes a mistake, shares his/her mistake then gets called names, put down, and personally attacked?

Most ECF posters are not this rude and obtuse.... I guess there has to be a few in every bunch and the comments you made were uncalled for, rude, and over the top IMHO...

Now feel free to call me names as well....

My .02

Kris

 

[Wafflestomper]

Now feel free to call me names as well....

Can I call you Bob?

 

[raqball]

Sure.... Hahahaha



Bob (aka Kris)

 

[DMertz99]

Mods aren't plug-and-play the way standard PVs are. It's very important to emphasize how dangerous these batteries (even a single 3.7v) can be. I'm sure the harsh treatment is only intended to keep everyone as safe as possible. With so many posts, I'm still not sure if everyone is fully aware of what happened here. It looks to me like charging a primary Lithium battery caused the failure. I recently read a post by a vendor rep recommending this type of "non-rechargeable" battery. We really need an e-cig specific battery instruction guide that's easy to read. These things are not flashlights using 1.5v Duracells. My .02

 

[raqball]

Mods aren't plug-and-play the way standard PVs are. It's very important to emphasize how dangerous these batteries (even a single 3.7v) can be. I'm sure the harsh treatment is only intended to keep everyone as safe as possible.

Someone can post their thoughts without calling the OP stupid, dumb, and an idiot...

That's uncalled for! Even more so when the OP has admitted fault and was NOT trying to blame the device, the battery or anyone else but him / herself....

I agree 100% that this incident was the OP's fault... No doubt about it.... I am glad he/she is OK and we all learned a lesson here....

The name calling and put downs was NOT needed for the lesson to be learned....

My .01

Kris

 

[Poeia]

Thank you, Bob. I concur 100%.

 

[chiquita]

MadVapes sells the CR123A in 3.0 volts and 3.7 volts. Which one did you buy? According to Jeff's website, the little Chuck takes the 3.7V.

I bought the 3.7V after reading the battery thread here. I searched multiple vendors including ebay and it appears most of the supply are from China. If they are from the US like Duracell they are camera batteries and almost always 3.0V.

It can be very confusing but as was suggested always shoot off an email to the vendor first and clarify if they are protected and rechargeable.

Is it possible for someone here to also cover the chargers, I don't know if that can contribute to the problem as well.

 

[TheBigD]

what I don't understand is when someone spends that much money on a mod...and then cheaps out on batteries...sorry, I don't intend to offend...but bottom line is that if I buy a mod I see it as an investment of sorts and as such, I'll spend more for the best most trusted batteries I can find...I just dont see how someone can spend $80 on a mod and then turn around and lok for the cheapest battereis they can find expecially when safety is involved...

As such all I'll buy is AW batteries when I can find them....bare minimum are actual labeled ultrafire protected...

I initially went to MadVapes (where I got the batteries for my Little Chuck) but they were out of stock. Battery Junction also didn't have any. So I Googled the battery size and found that site.

I didn't buy from there because they were cheap, I bought them there because they had them in stock. When you factor in shipping the batteries I got worked out to the same as the Ultrafire ones I got from Battery Junction. I try to buy from MadVapes because he supports the community.

I was just so excited to try vaping at 6v that I became careless, and didn't pay close attention to what I bought/what I used.

But hey, it's the Internet, where it is fun to make judgements about things and people you know little about! Enjoy!

 

[AngusATAT]

I'm just glad you're okay. It did inspire me to look at my own batteries more closely, so your example did me some good.

 

[notsoogood]

I initially went to MadVapes (where I got the batteries for my Little Chuck) but they were out of stock. Battery Junction also didn't have any. So I Googled the battery size and found that site.

I didn't buy from there because they were cheap, I bought them there because they had them in stock. When you factor in shipping the batteries I got worked out to the same as the Ultrafire ones I got from Battery Junction. I try to buy from MadVapes because he supports the community.

I was just so excited to try vaping at 6v that I became careless, and didn't pay close attention to what I bought/what I used.

But hey, it's the Internet, where it is fun to make judgements about things and people you know little about! Enjoy!

You stated everything very plainly earlier TheBigD! Thank you for doing so. The people that read it properly the first several times saw this. You did the right thing by posting this. Don't pay any attention to the 'bashers'!!!

 

[Ladycats]

You stated everything very plainly earlier TheBigD! Thank you for doing so. The people that read it properly the first several times saw this. You did the right thing by posting this. Don't pay any attention to the 'bashers'!!!

Yep .. I agree ! Your mishap made me pay closer attention to what I have .. for that, I thank you !! and very happy you are wiser now and okay !!

 

[JamBandPhan]

Big D,

It was an unfortunate mistake any anyone could make. The fact that you are sharing your experience to help others avoid making the same mistakes means a lot. It's easy to pass judgment on other people, so pay no attention to those who choose to put you down. The most important thing here is that you are not seriously hurt, and hopefully other people won't get hurt after reading about your mishap.

I really hope you are feeling better, and I am glad that Jeff is willing to help you out with a replacement.

 

[doots]

I use these AW's
AW RCR123a Protected 750 mAh Battery

also the Tenergy 750Mah RCR123a's

Both these are great. I like the AW better though..

 

[TheBigD]

I'm gonna be a little harsh here But........


The end result from this POST should be less about the danger of batteries

and more about the danger of acting Foolish/Dumb trying to RECHARGE a Non-rechargable Batt

Yes, acting foolish was definitely part of the equation. However, the batteries that I ordered were NOT the same as the ones that were pictured, and they DID NOT WORK when I initially put them in my device.

Moreover, the picture in the sales page shows the batteries as silver, exactly like the batteries I got for my Little Chuck when I first got it.

So I put them on my charger, they showed a red light, sometime later, green, put them in, and they worked. And they worked like this for two cycles. They probably weren't rechargeable, but they drained and recharged like they were.

Plain and simple this guy bought non recharg cheap 2 for $1.98 batts and kept trying to charge them.......................... no where on the site he was on do they sell rechargable batts

He was looking to buy cheap and acted dumb

False. As I have mentioned time and time again, MY ERROR HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SAVING MONEY. I purchased some UltraFires previously, and if you read the "No joy at 6v" thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/thag-built-chuck/74050-no-joy-6v.html I asked about the lack of functionality with the UltraFires there. Several members mentioned that the batteries I got had a different kind of "protection" than another (first I heard of that) and that I should order a different type.

So, I went online and all my usual vendors were out. I Googled, found some, and ordered. Also, in the "works in" section of the page the devices listed commonly use rechargeable batteries, but I don't think I made too much a note of that.

its common sense to buy rechargable protected batts its all over this subforum

OP is ok but has learned a lesson


Dont let it happen to yourself

Buy protected use basic logic

Yes, it is. It is also important to note that in many cases information from Internet vendors is incomplete, and that it is EASY to mistake one thing for another, and to let your guard down and put yourself in danger.

It is easy to be "harsh" and call me dumb or cheap or what have you, but that is not only false it is counter-productive. I am sharing as much as I can about my decision making process as well as the elements involved in my accident in order to save other people the misfortune of such an accident--one that I was lucky to have not lost an eye from.

The tenor of your (and other's) post would be understandable if I were BLAMING the website or BLAMING the battery manufacturer or BLAMING the fact that it doesn't say anything about rechargeables one way or the other or BLAMING the Chuck itself--but I am not. For once, I feel that BLAME should be left out of it. Of course, it seems that people in our culture are all about BLAME and not so much about fixing and follow-through. I'd hoped to change that in this instance, but golly! wouldn't you know it, others are there to pull up the slack.

It is my hope that this never happens to anyone who uses a Chuck (or any other mod for that matter) EVER, so I am being as honest as possible.

If this thread exasperates you somehow because people have questions, don't read it. But do not take it upon yourself to lay out the reasons for why I may or may not have made the decisions I did--you do not know me and you CERTAINLY do not know my mind (either now or at the time I made any decisions) so it would behoove you to stick to what you do know and leave it there.

Look at the number of battery threads on this sub-forum alone. Obviously, there is a lot of information to wade through and lots of people have questions. Again, look at the thread I posted BEFORE I went out and got the batteries that blew up.

Avoiding this is not as simple as "don't be cheap" or "duh, they don't say rechargeable on the website" blah blah blah. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone. My mistake was being more excited about my new toy than being concerned for safety, and an accident happened.

I appreciate all the well wishes from everyone.

 

[Quick1]

Someone can post their thoughts without calling the OP stupid, dumb, and an idiot...

That's uncalled for! Even more so when the OP has admitted fault and was NOT trying to blame the device, the battery or anyone else but him / herself....

I agree 100% that this incident was the OP's fault... No doubt about it.... I am glad he/she is OK and we all learned a lesson here....

The name calling and put downs was NOT needed for the lesson to be learned....

My .01

Kris

I initially went to MadVapes (where I got the batteries for my Little Chuck) but they were out of stock. Battery Junction also didn't have any. So I Googled the battery size and found that site.

I didn't buy from there because they were cheap, I bought them there because they had them in stock. When you factor in shipping the batteries I got worked out to the same as the Ultrafire ones I got from Battery Junction. I try to buy from MadVapes because he supports the community.

I was just so excited to try vaping at 6v that I became careless, and didn't pay close attention to what I bought/what I used.

But hey, it's the Internet, where it is fun to make judgements about things and people you know little about! Enjoy!

The recount is very valuable. Not as a lesson learned for the OP but as an awareness thing. Most of us are accustomed to a plethora of "mainstream" battery operated devices. Most are bullet proofed (at quite some additional cost). In general, most all common devices using more than 1.5v cells have non-replaceable batteries or a unique form factor only fitting that particular device and charger. It's only when you get to things like the more serious RC, and hobby type of items that you move to more of a DIY/component type of model to allow for heavy customization and flexibility. Users are left more to their own (and assume more risk). The "stock" e-cigarettes appear to be in the "polished" mainstream type of device realm. It's really hard to screw up with a standard 510 from the manufacturer. You can use it and abuse it much like people do their cell phones. It may be easy to break but it's going to be hard to hurt or surprise yourself. It's natural for many users to apply the same towards mods which are not in the same class. Even if you do have some awareness of the issues, all the cues are the same. It's a battery, it looks feels and is used just like the duracells you've used and not paid attention to all your life. With few exceptions, all common commercial products that are potentially dangerous have safeties, fail safes, etc. Easy to approach these the same way and/or get lax with their treatment. To add to the problem most of the supply is through online vendors, many of which are overseas. Regulations, quality control, knock-offs, etc. are all, not uncommon issues you have to deal with.

 

[phelmon]

Well said TheBigD! I am glad you are alright and I hope it prevents others from making mistakes. I know it made me go and look at the batteries I bought just to make sure I ordered correctly and got what I ordered.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[JollyRogers]

BigD (D for Dallas, Dublin, Dog, or Dude?). Just glad you are OK. It could have been a lot worse! You really don't need to explain yourself. I think most people (that are bashing you) are just trying to justify to themselves that this will not happen to them. It could. They are trying to find fault with you, your choice of battery etc... and they would/will never make this sort of mistake. Ignore 'em. Others are just trying to learn from your bad experience, which is the just of your post IMO. Everyone makes a mistake, whether it was you, the peeps that sold that batts, or whoever. It happens, be careful people. It's not the first batt to blow/vent and it won't be the last. Protected or not, I suspect all batteries are a potential hazard. BigD's post is a very serious reminder of this, no matter what the circumstances.

Again, glad you are OK and happy vaping.

 

[Shelbeethehmmrgirl]

Let's give this thread a rest. The OP admits fault and he is jumped on as well as anyone else that is trying to learn by asking questions. I believe all this thread is doing is beating a dead horse now. If somebody has something to say that has not already been said by all means contribute if nothing more productive can be said then let it go. Noone needs thier nose rubbed in a MISTAKE like this and from what I understand it was a simple mistake. JMO