My fellow vapers HOW TO PUT DOWN THE ANALOGS?

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I've been so interested in dripping! I followed a vid on YouTube and made a makeshift atomizer from an old carto!.I Was Gonna buy What They Call A Drip O Mizer From Nhaler But after talking with them they basically.talked me into just getting the Aspire.

AnY suggestions on what to get to drip...there's so much available I'm kinda lost with it.

Hi Monica, read your post and the whole thread with great interest. You have had some great suggestions here. vaping and quitting smoking is a journey. There are many different paths you can take. There are crossroads where you can change paths or double back around. What I am trying to say is that quitting smoking is a very individual thing, a very personal thing. You have to decide what you want to do and which paths you choose to travel.

I am an active member of that vaping and smoking thread. No, you do not need anything special to come and read and post and participate. I would like to invite you to come and join us and chat. Some of us have stopped smoking, some of us are struggling with quitting cigarettes, and some of us are not looking to stop smoking at all. But we are all there for each other. If you are not comfortable posting right off, come on over and lurk. It is a long thread, we tend to be a chatty bunch. You name it, I bet we have talked about it in the thread, if not, ask away and we will discuss it.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dicted-smoking-habit-support-chat-thread.html

I also want to give you a link to a thread on dripping. This is going to be about dripping into an atomizer, not one of the fancier RBA types. This is the cheapest and easiest way to learn to drip and learn if you like dripping. The thread is active and a number of long time experienced drippers post there frequently. If you head over there, tell Mr.Mann that ShariR sent you and say you want to learn how to drip. You will get some good advice and help.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...405910-regular-atty-drippers-dying-breed.html

I smoked Marlboro 100s for 45 years, so I know how hard it is to give up what is essentially a life long friend. PM me if you like. Join us in either link. We are here to help.
 

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Just going to share what helped me and the people I've helped quit so far (5 others).

First, get a good vaporizer. Ego's do work for some people but they didn't work for us. (If an ego will work for you then by all means use it). I have a DNA 20 mod and a Provari but you don't need all that. Get a nice MVP 2 or something like that. The better vaporizers do matter imho.

Second, get a great juice. Get something that you love the taste of. Something that makes you want to pick up your vaporizer just to get that taste. For me and a couple of friends the juice that really did it was Dorky Stud and Khlorine (Vapetrik.com). If you don't have something you love it's way harder to put down the stinkies. Doesn't have to be the same juice for everyone but find something that you truly love.

Third, get a great juice delivery system. For me that was carto tanks. I found that, for me, I got better flavor and a better experience from a good carto tank than from the clearos. They are a little more work to set up than a clearo but the difference in the vape was worth it to me. I prefer Phiniac tanks and boge cartos with my set up. Lots of people love ikenvapes. They are good cartos too. Ibtanked makes a good carto tank as well.

I went from being a pack and a half to 2 packs a day smoker down to around 6 cigs a day for about 6 months. That was my routine. Finally I just quit. I ran out of cigs one day and haven't bought another one since. I've been smoke free for just over a month now. I still vape 16-18 mg. I have some 12s as well.

It doesn't have to be a one day solution for you. Find out what works for you and just stick to it. One day you will find out that you don't need them anymore either.
 

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I'm using my spinner right now but most of the clearo's I use u can't crank it up too far.

What are u using on the MVP?

not familiar with the spinner but doesnt it go up to 4.8 or something like that?

yes i'm on the MVP and the iclear 16s that came with it, no special tank just yet, altho i am shopping around for something else of course :D
 

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AnY suggestions on what to get to drip...there's so much available I'm kinda lost with it.
I would suggest just a simple standard resistance Joyetech 510 atomizers to start with.
You can get them just about anywhere.

I've never bought this myself, but I've seen people recommend getting them here...
Joyetech 510 Atomizer 5-Pack (2.3ohm) | DigitalCiggz.com

I bought all mine from China in bulk many years ago.
:)
 

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I also want to give you a link to a thread on dripping. This is going to be about dripping into an atomizer, not one of the fancier RBA types. This is the cheapest and easiest way to learn to drip and learn if you like dripping...

Good post, but I don't think you can really say disposables are 'cheaper' per se than an RBA.

They have a lower initial outlay, and they're a lot less hassle to learn - so yes, start with disposables.

But be aware that one of the advantages of rebuildables is they can be *very* low running cost. Wire and cotton are cheap. It might be worth buying something simple, like an Igo-L, and experimenting. If you don't like it, you haven't invested much.
 

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Lots of good info & its funny how most of our experiences are similar. I can say I got my itaste vv yesterday & counting from the time I started this post & so far this morning - now that's at least 12 hours I've only had 2 cigarettes.

So messed up how our heads work cuz just the thought of not having one makes me want one!

I must say getting the itaste was like a whole new world - I can't even take it...my throats hurting!
The experiences & suggestions are great..def gonna use some.

Congrats on the itaste. The itaste + iclear 16 combination works great. Make sure you're drinking enough water that your throat doesn´the dry out.
 

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Hi. I think you may have misunderstood me. I was saying for the cost of one or two cheap disposable dripping atomizers a person may be able to discover if they do enjoy the repetitive process of constantly dripping. In the long run, an RBA is probably cheaper, but the initial outlay of both money and time to learn how to build a coil is much higher. With a disposable, you buy it and put a few drops of juice in it. Period. If someone likes the taste, the repetitive process of dripping, etc., then do the research on getting an RBA and the associated materials required to use same. My answer to the op was to suggest what is in my opinion the cheapest and quickest way to see if you even have an interest in dripping.

Good post, but I don't think you can really say disposables are 'cheaper' per se than an RBA.

They have a lower initial outlay, and they're a lot less hassle to learn - so yes, start with disposables.

But be aware that one of the advantages of rebuildables is they can be *very* low running cost. Wire and cotton are cheap. It might be worth buying something simple, like an Igo-L, and experimenting. If you don't like it, you haven't invested much.
 

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That's pretty much the point I was making - I just felt it wasn't made entirely clear by your original post.

I think we are both on the same page. I agree with you. I would love to learn how to build a coil on an Igo L or a Kayfun Lite but I am a totally intimidated little old lady with poor eyesight to do the building stuff. I will get there eventually. Dripping into a Joye 510 atty I can handle.

I read your other post where you are talking about supplements. Way over my head but I think you do have something there. Enjoyed reading it.
 

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I don't understand anything about how brains work, but I read a few threads and googled manically for a few hours, and that's what I came up with. The last of it arrived yesterday, so I've just started; now I just hope it works!

The KFL+ is great - my current favourite atomiser - and very easy once you know what you're doing, but there are a *lot* of parts, and it could be quite intimidating for a first rebuildable.

The brilliant things about the Igo-L are that it's so cheap (something like £10) and so utterly simple. It really is a rebuildable stripped down to its most basic elements: a cup with a positive and negative post sticking out, each with a screw in. You put a coil and wick in between the screws (I'd suggest silica as the easiest wick to deal with to begin with), you make sure the wick is touching the bottom to soak up the liquid, you check you have the desired resistance... That's it - there's nothing else to think about!

I'd say if you've got a mod that detects short circuits and can measure resistance, give it a go :)

-edit - I should say also you always need to know what you're doing with batteries, and what the dangers of shorts / excessively low resistance are, if you're going the rebuildable root. Baditude's blog is always a good place to start.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/
 
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So I'm not a noob at all, it's probably been close to a year since I started my vaping journey. I can say the amount I smoke has decreased tremendously. I can see a huge difference in my breathing, etc...if I run out of cigarettes I don't run to the store to get more but I just can't seem to put them down altogether.

It doesn't help I live with a smoker. I've done my best to get him into vaping -- its just not working.

I need some advice guys. How can I put down those last few cigarettes? I've been smoking for about 12-13 years and have never quit...I think if I just had no cigarettes around I'd be fine but thats not really an option. It's hard to change someone else, you know?

Well I can't completely blame him. When he leaves for work I am like "Don't forget to leave me a couple!" UGH! I'm open to any suggestions...

Grab 3 cigarettes cut them in half and say to yourself that its 1/2 a cig a day but only when you start shaking for it and ONLY that one half cig a day... I promiss you when youre done with the 3rd half youre done with cigarettes...


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I found the more I vaped, the worse cigarettes tasted. As one of those who just had to have that fist smoke in the morning, on the seventh day of vaping/smoking, I was standing out on the front porch as the sun rose on a typical Oregon day (windy, rainy and cold). I lit up the ciggie and when it tasted like sucking on the tailpipe of a manure truck, put it out. That was last of my 40-year tobacco habit.

Yeah, I'm the exception as the transition from a pack a day of nasty-tasting cigarettes to unlimited tasty indoor vaping was not too difficult but then I was just trying out the technology and didn't really intend to stop smoking. It was just logical to follow the more pleasurable route.

I do hope you draw inspiration from the stories here, don't feel pressured and find your own path.
 

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Lots of good info & its funny how most of our experiences are similar. I can say I got my itaste vv yesterday & counting from the time I started this post & so far this morning - now that's at least 12 hours I've only had 2 cigarettes.

So messed up how our heads work cuz just the thought of not having one makes me want one!

I must say getting the itaste was like a whole new world - I can't even take it...my throats hurting!
The experiences & suggestions are great..def gonna use some.

I started vaping with ego batteries and evod clearomizers. I didn't have the best luck with the clearos and found myself frequently adjusting the head, replacing the head, wearing my juice and all the other newbie issues. I smoked the remainder of my stash of cigs for the first week. I would have a cigarette, feel 'unfinished' and grab the ecig.

Ran out of cigs, said I would not buy another pack and didn't look back. Wait, to be honest, I think I have smoked maybe 4 cigarettes in the first three months. It seemed I just had to try one now and again to see if I was missing anything. Yep, I was missing something! The nasty way my mouth tasted and my person smelled after smoking a cigarette. Also, the 'guilty' feeling from having given in and not being true to what I really wanted.

I have never told myself that I cannot smoke a cig. I just keep reminding myself that I don't want all the crap that goes with smoking them. Maybe that has helped my stubborn self to give them up. It has been 7 months cig free now and I will not go back.

I have some higher nic (18mg) in some of my favorite juices. When I have a craving (and I do...stress is a sure fire trigger), I grab a strong tasting tobacco flavor and vape away. It is not always exactly what I am craving but after a few puffs it is all that I need to get through.

Bottom line: Quitting smoking usually takes a little extra effort. We have to learn to tell ourselves NO. When I quit without vaping that was exceedingly difficult. The cravings would just come one right after the other and I would eventually give in. Now that I have vaping, the cravings are satisfied if I am strong enough not to give into the first one. IF I expect the cravings to just go away forever, I am setting myself up to smoke again. They are going to be there. If not forever, at least for quite a long time. I quit for two years without vaping and I had cravings throughout. Just not miserable or unbearable cravings.

You have to decide. Are you going to smoke? Yes or no. Once you decide, put all you have into providing yourself with an acceptable alternative (vaping great juice with enough nicotine). Always have a fiddle proof back up for the times you get too stressed to mess with a flooding tank or weak battery. Take away the excuses to give in to a craving. Charge one battery while vaping the other, never find yourself without a vaping set up that works.

I am too damn long winded! Bottom line? If you don't want to smoke, then don't.

On another note, having smokers in the same house is a bummer. Not an excuse to smoke. It takes away one of the greatest benefits of not smoking: you just can't smell better if your home is turned into a massive ashtray every time BF and roommate start puffing away. I feel badly for you but it is something you choose to live with. More showers, more open windows, etc. One reason I wanted to stop stinkies was the look on my husband's face when he hugged me or kissed me. He quit smoking and the dirty ashtray smell I carried around just about made him sick. He seldom said a thing and he tried to cover it up but I knew he was having that reaction and I just didn't want to give up the hugs and snuggles. No more smoking. Vaping smells GOOD!
 

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GREAT POSTS!!

Lots and lots of common ground


Here's my quitting process

My first try at vaping did not go so good. Those imitation analogs that you suck on
and on a good day get little puffs of vapor ohh what were they called Phoenix Vaper
I think. Second try when better with ego-T, but had lots of equipment failures.

So I bit the bullet and bought Sigelii a Kanger and some evods.
That went better, finally got 2 mvp's, and that is my equipment now
From start to now was a 30 months process with long lapses of not
vaping.

Four things really helped :
Advise from people on u-tube and blogs
Having good equipment
Taking the time each day to clean out the equipment
Encouragement from my better half.

I cut back by taking out a single pack of cigarets, Then seeing if I could smoke only 10 in the course of a day.
I would tell myself I had to vape before having a cig. Then if I still wanted one I could.

She said :attaboy

Then I was at 4 per day for about 6 weeks. Still laying out my allowance for the day, but allowing myself to
fail now and then. She said :attaboy

Then it was 2 per day, and I noticed I was sometimes forgetting to smoke those. I was shifting my habit to e-cigs.
Had 1/2 a cigs months ago tasted like hell.

She said :attaboy

Not matter what I did she always gave the the attaboy, I swear I could have said I smoked a dozen foot long cigars from cuba and she would have said : attaboy lol.

Anyhow that's how I shifted from analog to e-cigs.


Now I'm cutting down on the nicotine, started at 24 then 16 now 12
next order a mix of 12 and 6

Right attaboy : )
 
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LOL>>Attaboy! I do find it's easier if b4 grabbing a cigarette I vape. It's funny too cuz sometimes when I'm actually smoking a cigarette I'll wanna reach for my e-cig! It's cuz the cigarette tastes nasty...so I know I'm on my way. I think sometimes I smoke for the sake of smoking. I can easily go thru my whole working day which is 7 1/2 hours without a cigarette. I tell myself I'll only smoke on my breaks but then I'll vape instead and by the time breaks over I'm satisfied.

And I can already tell a difference..honestly I can't stand when my bf comes over to me and smells like an ashtray. I'm like you smell/taste nasty ugh! It's SO disgusting I can't imagine that's what I've smelt like all these years. What a turn off.

I don't know about the idea of breaking the cigarettes in half -- I live in Mass they're like $9.50 a pack!! Even though I've resorted to buying tobacco and tubes and making my own cuz I just can't afford it anymore.

Well as I've learned in the past ONE DAY AT A TIME!
 

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Congrats on cutting back so much! I think it's good for you to look at what has been accomplished before looking at was hasn't been. It's very hard to quit when you are around another smoker, no matter what method you are using to try and quit. I still had at least one cigarette a day while my husband was waiting for his first vape in the mail. It was that first cigarette of the day that I craved, and as they were right there, usually on the kitchen counter next to the coffee machine.... I couldn't wait for his vape to arrive in the mail so the temptation wasn't there anymore. It took another week for him to finally stop buying packs, but since he drastically cut back on them due to vaping, I was able to stop grabbing one for a couple of days in a row. When I finally gave in again at that point, they tasted like burning garbage. That was the last one for me. Nothing worth doing is easy, and you've done a great thing for yourself to get to this point so far.
 

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Once you settle in with the gear and liquid that suits you, the monetary savings can and is a great incentive .. after the complete removal of the analog from your routine, once your system has cleansed itself, the taste of an analog will become more and more distasteful .. your sense of smell and food enjoyment will increase as well as your lung function ..

Although we can offer support and suggestions on quiting the analogs completely, the final amount of willpower must come from within each individual user .. and the danger with continuing to use even a few analogs a day is "The addict will eventually return to the dose they have always been comfortable with .. " Although it may not hold true in all cases, generally speaking, this is why folks that say they have cut down to just a few smokes a day eventually dose right back up ..

There is no magic advice that at the flick of a switch will work in all cases, although all advice can he helpful .. at the end of the day, you must simply grit your teeth, keep your PV in hand at all waking hours if needed and refuse to light up ..
 

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Oh I wish I could get my bf into vaping! He actually makes fun of it. A couple times I've set him all up with one of my little v2's and a carto and sent him off to work but he didn't even use it! ERGH

I think if I have "the talk" with him seriously about wanting to quit he'll be with me. He always has the excuse of oh I want to lose weight first. I wanna be like UM excuse me you've been a big guy since we've met it's not like suddenly your going to even go on a diet and if you are quitting smoking at the same time isn't going to kill you its going to make u HEALTHIER. Stupid men. No offense to the non-stupid wonderful men here!!

Just so annoying...I think if I didn't have access to cigarettes it would def make things easier but your all right it comes down to will-power and without putting TMI out there I've overcome much more stronger things than quitting cigarettes so I know I can do it. It gets frustrating after awhile it's like I want to but I can't but anything's possible if you want it bad enough ;)
 
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