My first bad vaping experience

[mr quackums]

a friend of mine works in a restaurant and someone came in vaping a short, white PV with a red LED. my friend is used to mine so he knows what it is. a co-worker of his leans over and asks "is he smoking in here?" Before my friend even has a chance to respond the vaper shouts out "no, im not smoking, im vaping. and there is nothing you can do about it."

not only was this guy an ... but stupid to boot (they can still kick you out). it just pisses me off to know i share a hobby with someone like that.

 

[Shortstuff116]

I don't know how it is in Texas, but here in MA any store owner/manager can ask you not to do something and if you refuse, you are out the door. If not, then you will be removed by the police.

There are several businesses that I vape in and have spoke with each of the owners personally and told them if they would rather I did not vape in their establishment then I would not. That is their right to either let me or not to let me.

I may have a permit to carry a concealed weapon but that doesn't mean that I can take it anywhere I want to. There are limits.

Some people are just born .....

 

[southjerseydeedee]

Ok, my two cents. Don't vape where smoking is prohibited, uness you can totally steath vape with the utmost of discretion, then use the higher mg so you can be satisfied quickly and not offend. We do want to represent in the utmost of politeness. One of the 14 patents that Hon Lik of Hong Kong holds names the device as the atomising emulsion sucker (or very similar to that, I did not confirm that exact name for this posting). If we we want to promote and secure the future of the atomiser, let us not be cantankerous. I wonder if the e-cigarette is just slang for the device. I read somewhere and I agree: let's get away from drung terms like"cutting" the liquid. Diluting or mixing are more socially acceptable words. Maybe we can dress in suits or fancier clothes when we make our videos.
Also, water vapor comes from water. We are expelling nicotine into the air. Although it is not carcinogenic nor smelly, it is addictive nicotine. If I were to be a non-smoker, I would not want to be exposed to addictive nicotine second handedly. I am happy enough that my family accepts my indoor vaping. At work, I go to the restroom, or go outside, but mosty I do stealth vape at work and I steath vape on public transportation. When in public outdoors, I vape proudly. Again, if I must stealth vape, I use the higher mg so as to satisfy myself more quickly. In my car I proudly vape to my hearts content. Also, I have not been approached at all, conversely, I approach others who are smoking analogs and show them what I am doing with great excitement. Their response has been one of intrigue and hope. Tread lightly my fellow vapors.

 

[mr quackums]

I don't know how it is in Texas, but here in MA any store owner/manager can ask you not to do something and if you refuse, you are out the door. If not, then you will be removed by the police.

thats how it is here too. except we will go ahead and shoot if the cops dont show up fast enough

 

[Poeia]

The U.S. is a country where it is illegal to grow industrial hemp because it looks very similar to its cousin which contains THC. So don't look for common sense when talking about drugs (and nicotine is a drug.) If the person inhales and blows out a cloud of stuff, it's a cigarette. Period. Close mind and move on.

It's up to us to explain politely and non-confrontationally what it is and what it does (e.g. enabled me to quit smoking so I no long produce second-hand smoke.) We are the ambassadors for this new product and it's not going to help us to make enemies for it. The closed-minded jerk you insult today will be writing letters to lawmakers urging bans on PVs tomorrow.

 

[Neon]

As far as I know I was the first vaper im my city, I get a lot of looks because I vape openly, but believe that there`s much power in a good testimony.

Vape the world.

Neon

 

[Kings35]

For me, my personal choice, don't vape where I couldn't/shouldn't smoke. I did not start vaping because I wished I could get nic in places where I didn't smoke. I vape because I believe I am saving my own life.
I was a considerate smoker and thusly I am a considerate vaper.

 

[Brandnew vper]

One thing, Lawmakers Higher political figures are def gonna want this gone. Even police and others, no matter what. It doesnt matter how great it is or if it saved your life. Cause this is america and no one cares about the "people" (at least no one that can do anything about it) they only care about the next election or how much $ they can make. So no matter what research comes out its gonna be banned or taxed or medicined. Because they will not allow this to cut out big tabacco or any other smoking agencies that give politicians money to run their campaign or what have you. This is two much money out there. Until phillip morris comes out with their own overpriced PV then that will be the end of the rest. The fact is too many business and political leaders have their hands deep inside big tabacco's pants. So just forget it and vape constently where ever you can. And be polite to people who ask you politey aqnd Screw the others who do not ask politley.

I have a good argument though. People say well there are not enough studies to tell me if that good or not and blah blah blah... Bull! Its a mini fog machine plain and simple. When you take your kids to a play or to a halloween dance or haunted house you ALREADY expose them to all the substances in your PV besides nic. Which sorry to say is a very small amount in your PV until you get into high amounts. Thats why some of us can vape constently even at 24mg or 18mg. Very small amount of nic comes out of vaping 5-10 minutes. May not even be enough for someone vaping? let alone someone around it. They are great devices and helped most all of us out in some way. So ask if you can vape in a inclosed public place before you do. And if you cant dont do it just to give someone the middle finger. Plus i get better results asking first..its just polite. And dont hide it...it does give the impression its wrong. Also i agree with whomever said the PV name is dumb. It is... even if you said personal vaporizer and i didnt know what it was, i would think you were smoking weed. Cause in highschool would had Personal Vaporizers..we smoked weed from them. I just say an electronic ciggarette. It delivers nic through water vapor. A lot cleaner and healthier then real cigs. Conversation over. BOOM!

 

[Skyspider]

I have vaped in the public hospital waiting rooms, openly with no adverse reactions, I had 2 nurses and 1 Dr give me a thumbs up so I figured they know about e-cigs, I have had a few patients ask what i had, i just explained it was an e-cig, that gave me the nicotine without all the toxins and smell, no arguments yet. I also told my Dr i was using it and how it was working for me, he put on my file ..NON SMOKER followed by the date of my last analog.
I wont hide my vaping, I also wont vape in small enclosed areas without permission.
I know it wont be fully legal until the various governments find a way to tax it mercilessly and make it as expensive as analogs, but even then i will vape on.

 

[wave42]

I don't know how it is in Texas, but here in MA any store owner/manager can ask you not to do something and if you refuse, you are out the door. If not, then you will be removed by the police.

There are several businesses that I vape in and have spoke with each of the owners personally and told them if they would rather I did not vape in their establishment then I would not. That is their right to either let me or not to let me.

I may have a permit to carry a concealed weapon but that doesn't mean that I can take it anywhere I want to. There are limits.

Some people are just born .....

That's a good policy. I didn't vape anywhere I didn't smoke before I quit. Life is too short to have to constantly explain myself to antagonistic people.

 

[motallero]

I wouldve just said 'yeah, I am' and left it at that. When youre too eager to talk to people their ears close

 

[Remie]

I have vaped in the public hospital waiting rooms, openly with no adverse reactions, I had 2 nurses and 1 Dr give me a thumbs up so I figured they know about e-cigs, I have had a few patients ask what i had, i just explained it was an e-cig, that gave me the nicotine without all the toxins and smell, no arguments yet.I also told my Dr i was using it and how it was working for me, he put on my file ..NON SMOKER followed by the date of my last analog.
I wont hide my vaping, I also wont vape in small enclosed areas without permission.
I know it wont be fully legal until the various governments find a way to tax it mercilessly and make it as expensive as analogs, but even then i will vape on.

That is awesome, Skyspider! My doctor did the same thing last week. He made quite the big deal out of showing me how he marked it in my chart too.

I think those kinds of victories are going to benefit vapers long term. WTG

 

[crashinbrn]

It will likely cause an explosion easier than a lit cigarette will. To the gasoline vapors in the air, its like lighting a match each time we take a draw.

a cigarette will not cause an explosion of gasoline. don't believe what you see in the movies. I know that if you throw a cigarette in a puddle of gas in a relatively open area the gas will put the lit cig out (and yes i have tried it). the concentration of gas required to set off an explosion in PPM is quite large. an actual burning flame (like a match) can do it because it is already burning. i am not saying gasoline is safe, just that a burning cigarette is safer than you might think around gas vapor. unless your VP shoots sparks(which will cause gas to ignite) i doubt the e-cig/VP would be ANY problem.

 

[Jaganic_Solitude]

I just got a new bad vaping experience with my ex, who's an EMT in PA. Today he came over to visit our 1 year old daughter and he saw me vaping my 510. Normally, he'd be cool with it but whatever crawled in his pants today must've made him a major crab apple. Anyways, he saw me vaping in front of our child with his girlfriend (almost 9 months preggo with their son) and he claimed that my 510 was unhealthy to his gf, our child and his unborn child. I asked him why claim such a dumb thing and he pointed out that some website TESTED the vapor in an e cig and stated that the nicotine levels were no different from a regular cig and that also the nicotine contains the same ingredients found in analogs. I stated that was bull and to pull up the site for me. He did so and nothing showed up but he CLAIMED a certified medical doctor said so and it must be true. He also expressed great concern to not vape in front of our daughter so her health can be preserved and also she won't pick up any bad habits. I honestly think he's blowing smoke from his .... and has no reason to be afraid of my e cig. I've been vaping since December and I haven't went back to analogs. My ex used to smoke but his gf made him quit cold turkey, which could be just sheer jealousy of my freedom to vape.

Sorry for the long rant there, had to post what just happened 2 hours ago

 

[TheBlueAdept]

I just got a new bad vaping experience with my ex, who's an EMT in PA. Today he came over to visit our 1 year old daughter and he saw me vaping my 510. Normally, he'd be cool with it but whatever crawled in his pants today must've made him a major crab apple. Anyways, he saw me vaping in front of our child with his girlfriend (almost 9 months preggo with their son) and he claimed that my 510 was unhealthy to his gf, our child and his unborn child. I asked him why claim such a dumb thing and he pointed out that some website TESTED the vapor in an e cig and stated that the nicotine levels were no different from a regular cig and that also the nicotine contains the same ingredients found in analogs. I stated that was bull and to pull up the site for me. He did so and nothing showed up but he CLAIMED a certified medical doctor said so and it must be true. He also expressed great concern to not vape in front of our daughter so her health can be preserved and also she won't pick up any bad habits. I honestly think he's blowing smoke from his .... and has no reason to be afraid of my e cig. I've been vaping since December and I haven't went back to analogs. My ex used to smoke but his gf made him quit cold turkey, which could be just sheer jealousy of my freedom to vape.

Sorry for the long rant there, had to post what just happened 2 hours ago

That's a tough one. Of course, he's pretty misinformed and appears to have poor decision making skills (or just an excuse for some ex-drama?)

At the same time, as a divorced parent, I would respect the other parent's wishes wrt smoking (analogs OR ecigs) around the child whether or not I agreed with it on principle.

As for the 'unborn child' part, as long as you aren't exhaling directly into her face that's clearly pretty ridiculous too, but I also have respect for the health choices parents make for their kids, whether well-founded or not its' their right.


In my humble opinion, frustrating as this is, perhaps it's better to be the bigger person and just don't vape around them. You're unlikely to convert anyone with a closed mind, and it just creates more drama...

 

[Jaganic_Solitude]

That's a tough one. Of course, he's pretty misinformed and appears to have poor decision making skills (or just an excuse for some ex-drama?)

At the same time, as a divorced parent, I would respect the other parent's wishes wrt smoking (analogs OR ecigs) around the child whether or not I agreed with it on principle.

As for the 'unborn child' part, as long as you aren't exhaling directly into her face that's clearly pretty ridiculous too, but I also have respect for the health choices parents make for their kids, whether well-founded or not its' their right.


In my humble opinion, frustrating as this is, perhaps it's better to be the bigger person and just don't vape around them. You're unlikely to convert anyone with a closed mind, and it just creates more drama...

Thanks for your humble opinion. I pretty much won't vape in front of them...though I'll keep on vaping when they leave!

He's just one of those ex-smokers in denial is all and now...all is well ^-^

 

[sassygirl]

I just order my e cigarette starter kit and I'am anxiously waiting to stop smoking cigarettes.
To add to the discussion regarding vaping in public; I agree that it is better to vape in the correct setting. While I am sitting at my desk at the office, I do not plan to vape, nor will I be vaping at the gerocery store. I think it is great to educate people about the benefits to vaping, vs., cigarettes, but it needs to be the right time and place. The fact of the matter is that not enough people are aware of this new technology. It looks so much like a cigarette that many people are confused and may feel that you are "breaking the rules". Be prepared to get dirty looks, or get confronted by someone. If you are okay with that, then more power to you.

I spent several hours researching e cigarettes and after reading some hardcore smokers online posts about how they tried everything to quit and were not sucessful and now that they have been using e cigarettes they have noticed a hudge difference in how they feel - health wise. I am not saying that I think they are "healthier", but in my opinion it is the lesser of two evils.

I think that tabacco companies are on edge right now. I also think that some States are freaking out, because they might not get as much tax money, if the idea catches on.

I am curious to know if anyone has tried to vape on a plane??? If so, how did that go over?

 

[sassygirl]

I just order my e cigarette starter kit and I'am anxiously waiting to stop smoking cigarettes.
To add to the discussion regarding vaping in public; I agree that it is better to vape in the correct setting. While I am sitting at my desk at the office, I do not plan to vape, nor will I be vaping at the gerocery store. I think it is great to educate people about the benefits to vaping, vs., cigarettes, but it needs to be the right time and place. The fact of the matter is that not enough people are aware of this new technology. It looks so much like a cigarette that many people are confused and may feel that you are "breaking the rules". Be prepared to get dirty looks, or get confronted by someone. If you are okay with that, then more power to you.

I spent several hours researching e cigarettes and after reading some hardcore smokers online posts about how they tried everything to quit and were not sucessful and now that they have been using e cigarettes they have noticed a hudge difference in how they feel - health wise. I am not saying that I think they are "healthier", but in my opinion it is the lesser of two evils.

I think that tabacco companies are on edge right now. I also think that some States are freaking out, because they might not get as much tax money, if the idea catches on.

I am curious to know if anyone has tried to vape on a plane??? If so, how did that go over?

 

[whozshort]

I don't want to sound like the bad guy here, and admittedly I haven't read the entire thread, but I think putting ourselves in confrontational situations by stealth vaping indoors etc. is not helping our cause at all.

We need to realize that non-smokers obviously think differently about these devices than we do. I've had so many non-smokers say things like "why don't you just quit?" - they do not realize the challenge of addiction as well as we do. Also, I don't think it really matters if it looks like a cigarette at all - it is emitting vapor which we are slightly educated on, but vapor that many others have no clue about in terms of content etc. I respect this and don't want to put anyone in a position to be uncomfortable, when I can just as easily step out the door and vape away.

With the way things are going, we need as many people on our side as possible. This will not be achieved by pushing the boundaries with our vaping. We have to accept that others, whether through ignorance or just plain lack of knowledge, may not accept these devices immediately.

I think the best thing to do, and I hate to be saying this, is to treat vaping like smoking. Stick to areas where it is allowed (not saying you need to vape right next to smokers), and allow inquiring minds to ask questions and answer as best you can. This will portray a vaping community that is respectful of all others, which is what we need. Let the non-smokers notice as they walk past that you are not emitting smoke, perhaps their curiosity will strike a conversation and support for the "ecig". If not, we have not blown it in their face so to speak.

I think if we can vape in an unobtrusive manner, we will earn the respect of the majority and it will bode well for the future of vaping in general. We need to take one for the team, to protect vaping for ourselves and the many others that can use this to quit smoking analogs in the future.

Just my 2 cents. Cheers!

 

[oldman]

Hmmm, I'm extremely bright and have a history of convincing others to agree with my view of reality. Maybe this is the cause of our differing philosophies on public vaping.

Just a guess; are you a union member or a government employee and regularly go to church on Sunday?

No need to be extremely bright sometimes those are the people who think they are better than others and dont have any common sense.
Have some respect for people around you and quit of thinking just yourself.