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My first RDA setup purchase list, some questions remain.

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by VlKlNGS, Apr 20, 2019.

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  1. gpjoe

    gpjoe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2013
    Up North
    Yes.

    And the fact that most of us have spent truckloads of money (easily in the thousands) trying to figure out what we like. I have sold a LOT of tanks and RDAs that I just didn't like. IMO, you can do research and ask questions but there is no substitute for actually trying an item. It's a gamble we all have taken - sometimes you win, many times you lose.
     
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  2. gpjoe

    gpjoe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2013
    Up North
    Might be one of the minus guys, but I sincerely wish you the best of luck. :)
     
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  3. muth

    muth Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    May 20, 2014
    Boston, MA, USA
    I wasn't going to say anything but when I started out there wasn't as many tempting options (vaping eye candy) on the market. Still, I spent a lot of time reading and listening to experienced vapers and watched for the products that were popular among them. I listened to why they liked them and recommended them. If they were too expensive for my pockets I asked for an affordable option.

    Regarding reviewers: They have their own personal likes and dislikes that might not be compatible with yours. And yes, there can be incentives behind the scenes. Pick and choose your reviewers carefully and know that even your favorite reviewer will have opinions contrary to yours at times. Also, anyone can do a youtube review. I've seen reviews that should be pulled, imo. Btw, Jai Haze does charge a fee for review but I'm not insinuating that it influences his opinion. Just saying.
     
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  4. Jazzman

    Jazzman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    High Desert, CA
    I know at this point you've received so much advice @VlKlNGS (both good and bad) that's it's become really confusing to know which way to go. My advice, don't worry about it. You'll discover everything you need to know just by using your new setups and experimenting. Sure it might cost you a bit more from having to buy additional stuff, but the education you get on the way will be well worth it and I'm sure you'll have a ton of fun. So get your new stuff in and start learning and enjoying, it's all part of the process most of have gone through. Just always be conscious of safety.

    BTW, you can keep track of your education advancement by how much money you spend on worthless crap that looked good on paper... lol. I had a very bad track record of that while I was learning this stuff. Education isn't always cheap, but it's always valuable.

    So just have fun now and keep us posted on how it's going for you, and if you have any questions just let us know... just try and keep it more focused to single issues so we can help you better and it's not so confusing.
     
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  5. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    Sincerely good luck to you. I'm sure we will be hearing from you much more.
     
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  6. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @vikings, resistance is coupled with amps. And the lower the resistance, the more amps are needed even though the wattage stays the same.

    0.45 ohm at 30 watts.
    Screenshot_20190422-181218_Samsung Internet.jpg

    0.10 ohm at 30 Watts.
    Screenshot_20190422-181250_Samsung Internet.jpg

    See that Watts have stayed the same, but Amps have changed. And only ohms and Watts were entered into the calculator.

    But at 0.45 ohms approx, you'll be more than fine. But do look into building twisted wire coils, as they're cheap and really easy to make (no rocket science engineering degree required).
     
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  7. Skunk!

    Skunk! Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2014
    Las Vegas
    If you want big clouds from the DR, I would suggest a Challenge Cap for it. i have 2 of them and they are my favorite. They have big sde airflow and completely change the performance of that RDA.
    Hellvape Dead Rabbit Challenge Top Caps 24mm
    I would suggest quad core FC with rhin core wires and wrap. It will give you the surface area you want but still be very flat. Try to find something like 28×4/40. That is my favorite wire type. A lot of places make pre wound coils of that type.
     
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  8. VlKlNGS

    VlKlNGS Senior Member

    Apr 18, 2019
    @Jazzman @Don29palms hehe, you guys guessed right. ;) I do have one more issue(well... I have a ton of issues, but one more that is pretinent to our little corner here) that I could use your advice on, but we'll get into that later, I need a break for a couple of days.

    But no worries, *trying to do his best Arnold* I'LL BE BACK. :D

    I see @Mordacai , ar at least I'm trying to see, I've been trying to use those calculators you(at least I think it was you) recommended at steam-engine.org, but they are confusing as f***....

    Cool, thanks @Skunk! , I'll be sure to check those out! :)
    LE: Or is @Don29palms right and they won't work for me? :(
     
  9. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    She got the Drop Dead instead of the Dead Rabbit. As I agree with your choice of coils for cloud chasing, the mod she is getting won't drive those coils.
     
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  10. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    We will see you then.
     
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  11. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    This would be a great place to post your battery charts @Baditude.
     
  12. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
    (Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

    Up to 45W:
    Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 60W:
    LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 75W:
    LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 90W:
    LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR [​IMG]



     
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  13. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Mooch's Recommended 21700-size Batteries

    Samsung 21700 40T 4000mAh 25 amp CDR [​IMG]


    Molicel 21700 4000mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG] (best all around 21700, a bit wider in diameter than other 21700's)

    Samsung 21700 30T 3000 mah 35 amp CDR [​IMG] (highest amp rating for a 2100)

    Samsung 21700 50E2 5000 mah 10 amp CDR [​IMG] (highest capacity 21700, but only 10A, must have "2" on third line of battery)



    Mooch's Recommended 20700-size Batteries


    Sanyo 20700 NCR2070C 3500 mah 30 amp CDR [​IMG]

    Sanyo 20700 20700B 4000mAh 15 amp CDR [​IMG] (best if used under 10A and under 30 watts)

    Molicel INR20700A 2800mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
     
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  14. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
  16. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @vikings, steam-engine.org calculators and the likes do get confusing.

    Best thing is to take notes on your coil builds you use, so you can rate them and find out what you like over time. Because what someone else will run and enjoy, you may not.

    But your journey is just beginning, plenty of fun yet to come.
     
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  17. VlKlNGS

    VlKlNGS Senior Member

    Apr 18, 2019
    Nice, finally some charts/info that are easy to read/understand for a newb, thanks @Baditude

    They do raise a question though. Since it's mentioned in several places that the Molicel battery is wider, do mods account for that? In other words is it possible to buy mods that are labeled as 21700 compatible but when you try to put Molicel in it doesn't fit?
     
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  18. Skunk!

    Skunk! Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2014
    Las Vegas
    Ahh. Too bad. Those caps are a HUGE improvement over the stock ones. Don't have a DD but it looks like the same cap and AF as the DR has. I do only use that wire for dual coils on 2× battery mods now that you mention it.
     
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  19. Skunk!

    Skunk! Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2014
    Las Vegas
    SX Mini SL Class probably won't fit those. The only ones that I have found that fit the SL are Samsung.
     
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  20. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    It's compatible with 21700s but won't take a 1mm narrower 20700?
     
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