My first RDA setup purchase list, some questions remain.

[gpjoe]

You know, a lot of us have been here a long time. We agree, we disagree, we like different stuff. Most of us understand that we each have our own vape style, our favorite devices, and no two of us use all the same things.

We ask for and appreciate one another’s opinions and advice.

Most of us have nothing to prove. Some know a lot more than I do, some are newer and know less.

If you read some threads, you’ll see how people conduct themselves when they want advice, need assistance, or have advice or assistance to offer.

Politely, for the most part.

On a rare occasion, someone will drop in and expect everyone to kiss their ....

It doesn’t go over well. There’s room for every vaper and every vape style from any country on any budget.

But there is no room for a contentious, combative, spoiled kid attitude.

If you want someone to argue with, go get married.

Yes.

And the fact that most of us have spent truckloads of money (easily in the thousands) trying to figure out what we like. I have sold a LOT of tanks and RDAs that I just didn't like. IMO, you can do research and ask questions but there is no substitute for actually trying an item. It's a gamble we all have taken - sometimes you win, many times you lose.

 

[gpjoe]

And the orders are in, finally!!

For the most part the stuff I ordered remained the same, with a couple of differences:

a) On @Mordacai 's and @TrollDragon 's and others(sorry if I'm blanking your names) advice I've changed the coils up a bit. Removed both the 0.2 ones and added some nice regular claptons instead at 0.9. With the whole divided by two thing those should give me a nice 0.45 ohms to start at which the mod should be able to handle.

b) Right before placing my order I realized that the store page I had saved and was looking at this entire time was actually for the Drop Dead rda!!, looool, yeah, guess I am that blind... So I went with that one. Not sure if that will do anything to please those that hate the Dead Rabbit given the parts it takes from the rabbit, but, c'est la vie.

c) Not sure if I mentioned it here since part of the discussion was held in the other thread, but on @Jazzman 's and @Punk In Drublic 's advice I'm gonna go with the Samsung 30T in the end, so that I have a battery that can better handle the mods higher wattage range in case I need to go there(and I probably will from everything you guys have taught me). And if I drain it too quick I'll just grab a couple more and a battery carry case.

Think that's all. Thank you once again to everyone(minus one or two guys) for your help, advice and trying to get through to me, I know I can be a bit dense at times. I've learned a lot, even though I didn't listen on everything, and I appreciate it.

Guess I'll be back in two to three months(or however long it takes the post office and it's snail pace) to let you all know how it went and how I'm getting along with the combo, if anyone is curious.

P.S. Hopefully it won't take @vandyvapeofficial too long to come out with a dual battery/200w or so version of the Pulse X, just in case.

Might be one of the minus guys, but I sincerely wish you the best of luck.

 

[muth]

Great, great, great, great... Think it's time for a lovely new depression...
So basically nothing I like is any good... somehow I'm not surprised, story of my life...
I don't know what to say or do anymore...

Out of curiosity at least, since it doesn't seem to matter anymore:

a) can you guys please explain to me why if the rabbit is so ....ty pretty much all the reviewers I've checked(including Jai Haze who always struck me as a guy to tell it how it is) said it was good? Is every single one of them getting paid, or what?

b) of course I'm not gonna like how it looks but does at least one dual coil rda exist out there that would work with that mod and could produce nice clouds(by this I mean bigger then what a tfv12 triple mesh coil at 130w can do) and decent-ish flavor? I phrase it like that cause I care a bit more about the clouds then flavor in my outside build.

c) don't see how, maybe if I jumped out the window, landed on my head, was in a come for a couple of months and when I woke up I didn't care about that thing on the top, but can the bottle in the dovpo topside dual at least be taken out to clean and stuff?

I wasn't going to say anything but when I started out there wasn't as many tempting options (vaping eye candy) on the market. Still, I spent a lot of time reading and listening to experienced vapers and watched for the products that were popular among them. I listened to why they liked them and recommended them. If they were too expensive for my pockets I asked for an affordable option.

Regarding reviewers: They have their own personal likes and dislikes that might not be compatible with yours. And yes, there can be incentives behind the scenes. Pick and choose your reviewers carefully and know that even your favorite reviewer will have opinions contrary to yours at times. Also, anyone can do a youtube review. I've seen reviews that should be pulled, imo. Btw, Jai Haze does charge a fee for review but I'm not insinuating that it influences his opinion. Just saying.

 

[Jazzman]

I know at this point you've received so much advice @VlKlNGS (both good and bad) that's it's become really confusing to know which way to go. My advice, don't worry about it. You'll discover everything you need to know just by using your new setups and experimenting. Sure it might cost you a bit more from having to buy additional stuff, but the education you get on the way will be well worth it and I'm sure you'll have a ton of fun. So get your new stuff in and start learning and enjoying, it's all part of the process most of have gone through. Just always be conscious of safety.

BTW, you can keep track of your education advancement by how much money you spend on worthless crap that looked good on paper... lol. I had a very bad track record of that while I was learning this stuff. Education isn't always cheap, but it's always valuable.

So just have fun now and keep us posted on how it's going for you, and if you have any questions just let us know... just try and keep it more focused to single issues so we can help you better and it's not so confusing.

 

[Don29palms]

Sincerely good luck to you. I'm sure we will be hearing from you much more.

 

[Mordacai]

@vikings, resistance is coupled with amps. And the lower the resistance, the more amps are needed even though the wattage stays the same.

0.45 ohm at 30 watts.

0.10 ohm at 30 Watts.

See that Watts have stayed the same, but Amps have changed. And only ohms and Watts were entered into the calculator.

But at 0.45 ohms approx, you'll be more than fine. But do look into building twisted wire coils, as they're cheap and really easy to make (no rocket science engineering degree required).

 

[Skunk!]

Great, great, great, great... Think it's time for a lovely new depression...
So basically nothing I like is any good... somehow I'm not surprised, story of my life...
I don't know what to say or do anymore...

Out of curiosity at least, since it doesn't seem to matter anymore:

a) can you guys please explain to me why if the rabbit is so ....ty pretty much all the reviewers I've checked(including Jai Haze who always struck me as a guy to tell it how it is) said it was good? Is every single one of them getting paid, or what?

b) of course I'm not gonna like how it looks but does at least one dual coil rda exist out there that would work with that mod and could produce nice clouds(by this I mean bigger then what a tfv12 triple mesh coil at 130w can do) and decent-ish flavor? I phrase it like that cause I care a bit more about the clouds then flavor in my outside build.

c) don't see how, maybe if I jumped out the window, landed on my head, was in a come for a couple of months and when I woke up I didn't care about that thing on the top, but can the bottle in the dovpo topside dual at least be taken out to clean and stuff?

If you want big clouds from the DR, I would suggest a Challenge Cap for it. i have 2 of them and they are my favorite. They have big sde airflow and completely change the performance of that RDA.
Hellvape Dead Rabbit Challenge Top Caps 24mm
I would suggest quad core FC with rhin core wires and wrap. It will give you the surface area you want but still be very flat. Try to find something like 28×4/40. That is my favorite wire type. A lot of places make pre wound coils of that type.

 

[VlKlNGS]

@Jazzman @Don29palms hehe, you guys guessed right. I do have one more issue(well... I have a ton of issues, but one more that is pretinent to our little corner here) that I could use your advice on, but we'll get into that later, I need a break for a couple of days.

But no worries, *trying to do his best Arnold* I'LL BE BACK.

I see @Mordacai , ar at least I'm trying to see, I've been trying to use those calculators you(at least I think it was you) recommended at steam-engine.org, but they are confusing as f***....

Cool, thanks @Skunk! , I'll be sure to check those out!
LE: Or is @Don29palms right and they won't work for me?

 

[Don29palms]

If you want big clouds from the DR, I would suggest a Challenge Cap for it. i have 2 of them and they are my favorite. They have big sde airflow and completely change the performance of that RDA.
Hellvape Dead Rabbit Challenge Top Caps 24mm
I would suggest quad core FC with rhin core wires and wrap. It will give you the surface area you want but still be very flat. Try to find something like 28×4/40. That is my favorite wire type. A lot of places make pre wound coils of that type.

She got the Drop Dead instead of the Dead Rabbit. As I agree with your choice of coils for cloud chasing, the mod she is getting won't drive those coils.

 

[Don29palms]

@Jazzman @Don29palms hehe, you guys guessed right. I do have one more issue(well... I have a ton of issues, but one more that is pretinent to our little corner here) that I could use your advice on, but we'll get into that later, I need a break for a couple of days.

But no worries, *trying to do his best Arnold* I'LL BE BACK.

We will see you then.

 

[TrollDragon]

This would be a great place to post your battery charts @Baditude.

 

[Baditude]

This would be a great place to post your battery charts @Baditude.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:

Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR

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Up to 60W:

LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR

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Up to 75W:

LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR

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Up to 90W:

LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR

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[Baditude]

Mooch's Recommended 21700-size Batteries

Samsung 21700 40T 4000mAh 25 amp CDR

Molicel 21700 4000mAh 30 amp CDR

(best all around 21700, a bit wider in diameter than other 21700's)

Samsung 21700 30T 3000 mah 35 amp CDR

(highest amp rating for a 2100)

Samsung 21700 50E2 5000 mah 10 amp CDR

(highest capacity 21700, but only 10A, must have "2" on third line of battery)



Mooch's Recommended 20700-size Batteries

Sanyo 20700 NCR2070C 3500 mah 30 amp CDR

Sanyo 20700 20700B 4000mAh 15 amp CDR

(best if used under 10A and under 30 watts)

Molicel INR20700A 2800mAh 30 amp CDR

 

[Baditude]

 

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[Mordacai]

@vikings, steam-engine.org calculators and the likes do get confusing.

Best thing is to take notes on your coil builds you use, so you can rate them and find out what you like over time. Because what someone else will run and enjoy, you may not.

But your journey is just beginning, plenty of fun yet to come.

 

[VlKlNGS]

Nice, finally some charts/info that are easy to read/understand for a newb, thanks @Baditude

They do raise a question though. Since it's mentioned in several places that the Molicel battery is wider, do mods account for that? In other words is it possible to buy mods that are labeled as 21700 compatible but when you try to put Molicel in it doesn't fit?

 

[Skunk!]

She got the Drop Dead instead of the Dead Rabbit. As I agree with your choice of coils for cloud chasing, the mod she is getting won't drive those coils.

Ahh. Too bad. Those caps are a HUGE improvement over the stock ones. Don't have a DD but it looks like the same cap and AF as the DR has. I do only use that wire for dual coils on 2× battery mods now that you mention it.

 

[Skunk!]

Nice, finally some charts/info that are easy to read/understand for a newb, thanks @Baditude

They do raise a question though. Since it's mentioned in several places that the Molicel battery is wider, do mods account for that? In other words is it possible to buy mods that are labeled as 21700 compatible but when you try to put Molicel in it doesn't fit?

SX Mini SL Class probably won't fit those. The only ones that I have found that fit the SL are Samsung.

 

[TrollDragon]

SX Mini SL Class probably won't fit those. The only ones that I have found that fit the SL are Samsung.

It's compatible with 21700s but won't take a 1mm narrower 20700?