nasty tasting cartos: cooking juice

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Wickedwench

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I was asked by a friend to post this analogy. He seemed to think it clarified his questions.

Put a 3 quart saucepan on the stove. Pour in a can of Campbell's Chicken Noodle Soup, plus 1 can of water as per directions. Turn on the heat and get that pot to a simmer (lots of steam, some bubbles but not a full boil like you'd want for pasta). This is like a properly filled new or cleaned carto. The soup is diluted like the manufacturer wanted, and lots of vapor is coming from the pot. Delicious.

You eat a small bowl, then another. Now there isn't enough in the pot for another bowl. In fact, what is in the pot has gotten thicker as the water left the pot as steam. You could get out a fresh pot and start over, but you'd have to throw out what was left in the first pot. Instead, open another can, pour it into the remains from the first, add another can of water, and heat. Back to delicious, but the flavor has changed very slightly since some had already cooked for so long.

As the day goes along, you keep eating bowls. If you empty too much soup, the little left in the pot will burn and stick to the bottom. Instead, you keep adding 1 can of soup and one can of water.

If you added a can of soup and water once an hour for 8 hours, some of the soup in the pot has cooked for 8 hours. Any chicken or noodles left from the first can have fallen into mush and been stirred into the rest. This is unavoidable. That first can has not burned; it has been overcooked. The clear broth has changed color, gotten darker. The pulverized noodles have made it cloudy. It is not just nasty in its own, it has made the whole pot nasty.

If you use an atomizer and tank, like on the ego t, you're emptying the pot between cans, so overcooking isn't a big problem, but the remains of 8 cans means you've thrown away a lot of soup. Personally, I'm sloppy enough filling those tanks that I was losing almost as much juice as I was vaping!

If you use cartomizers or cartomizers with an external tank, you've got old juice building up as you top up all day, week, etc. Yes, you lose juice when you clean the cartos, but the juice you've already cooked is mixing with the new juice you add. It changes the flavor, maybe subtly, maybe radically.

Cooking duration may be the unexplored quality of juices. I've used the same carto and juice for three days before the flavor changed enough that I had to clean it out and start over. One supplier sold me juice that turned by the first top up. No reordering from them!

How important is cleaning? Well, take that pot of chicken noodle soup and dump the remains down the garborator. Now open a can of Cream of Mushroom and a can of water. You would still taste the chicken noodle soup because there would still be some in the pot unless you washed it!

I hope this helps explain some of the nasty flavors you seem to get but are sure you aren't burning an atty or carto! Thanks for your time!

PS If anyone is interested, I have a theory about why you think you get a mouthful of juice when it isn't juice.
 
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Wickedwench

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You are very welcome, moishesmom! I love all the jokes being made! I will add this to the analogy: variable voltage is like playing with the heat on the stove. Some people like their soup lukewarm, some prefer it just short of boiling. Lukewarm would make less steam and take longer to overcook, while very hot makes more steam and overcooks faster. To each their own!
 

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You are very welcome, moishesmom! I love all the jokes being made! I will add this to the analogy: variable voltage is like playing with the heat on the stove. Some people like their soup lukewarm, some prefer it just short of boiling. Lukewarm would make less steam and take longer to overcook, while very hot makes more steam and overcooks faster. To each their own!

LOVE IT......Did you ever hear of the author Erma Bombeck? Your writing reminds me of her- COMPLIMENT!!!
 

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Sandybeach, it depends on too many variables. If your juice is really dark (I've had black coffee vape before! ), if it is more strongly flavored, heck, even the precise chemicals in each liquid affect how well the heating filaments do their job. That's why some people prefer the variable voltage PVs.
I know what my time is worth to me. I never hesitate to try to clean a carto. If I "test toot" them after they dry and the draw is tight or I can't get an old flavor out, I pitch the carto. To me, that isn't a waste. I know some people find it worth it to take them apart, strip some for parts to fix others. Bless them, but for me, that's investing more in time than I would pay for a new carto. I may strip one someday just because I want to learn all I can.
This is all new to all of us and the longer I vape, the more convinced I am that uniform easy answers aren't ever going to be carved in stone. Find what is right for you, find out why if you do A, B occurs, and experiment safely!
 
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