Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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For you NET.com vapers. What is your preferred PG/VG ratio for these liquids? I went with 50/50, but I can be flexible with that. Im thinking maybe upping the PG will help with flavor and coil clogging.

I stick with 70PG/30VG unless the blender suggests otherwise. If 50/50 is only available that's fine. I can't do high VG.
 

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I stick with 70PG/30VG unless the blender suggests otherwise. If 50/50 is only available that's fine. I can't do high VG.

^ This. Anything less than 70% PG to me loses flavor and TH. Not cloud chasing either, so I take the default with NET.
 

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I'm quite happy with a heat assisted PG/VG extraction for 5 days (130 degrees in a slow cooker). Let it sit for 2-3 weeks and filter twice, last being a 2 or 3 micron alstrohm (I use an Aeropress and heat it up for 1 minute in micro before filtering for ease.) I mix at 20% concentration and am at around 10% nicotine in a 50/50 PG/VG final mix.

Do you mean, this is one of the best ways to get a very strong cigar juice ?
 

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I stick with 70PG/30VG unless the blender suggests otherwise. If 50/50 is only available that's fine. I can't do high VG.


^ This. Anything less than 70% PG to me loses flavor and TH. Not cloud chasing either, so I take the default with NET.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too. Im not a high VG guy anyway. I cant remember why I did 50/50 at the time, but you guys are right. Going to 70/30 would boost the flavor somewhat and could help with the fast coil clogging.

And I do tend to think these liquids work best for dripping. I wouldnt recommend using these in any non rebuildable tank, unless you got a few packs of coils nearby.
 
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Do you mean, this is one of the best ways to get a very strong cigar juice ?

Hi Jonny, I haven't tried the PGA extractions yet so I cannot compare. I do find this method to produce stronger flavors than what I've purchased and I've tried many of them. I typically get a Toro or Churchill cigar and around 120 ml of a 65/35 PG/VG for the extraction. I'm guessing that PGA's are cleaner but I just rewick after every 6 ml tank, which I don't mind doing for the really nice flavor. If you look way back you'll see that slight variations of this is how most of us started and I just haven't tried the newer processes yet--but may. 20% concentration provides a pretty good wallop for me. Cheers man.
 
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I will do my last 14 tobaccos with the hot ethanol extraction. I have latakia and some other fire cured tobaccos and i dont want to wait because of experimenting with other methods. The fragrances of the tobaccos are too good to wait anymore. I love latakia and fire cured tobaccos most and i have no extracts from them. I must do it now. After one or two months i will try all my juices and than i will thinking about, if i need to try other extraction methods.

On the other side i have mixed cigar juices from 8 cigars by the hot ethanol extraction yesterday. Because of many people have written that cigars are very difficult to extract, i want to try more methods with cigars.

At first i will read and ask here for experiences.

Is here anyone who has made a strong cigar net and if yes, with wich method and with which cigar ?
 
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I will do my last 14 tobaccos with the hot ethanol extraction. I have latakia and some other fire cured tobaccos and i dont want to wait because of experimenting with other methods. The fragrances of the tobaccos are too good to wait anymore. I love latakia and fire cured tobaccos most and i have no extracts from them. I must do it now. After one or two months i will try all my juices and than i will thinking about, if i need to try other extraction methods.

On the other side i have mixed cigar juices from 8 cigars by the hot ethanol extraction yesterday. Because of many people have written that cigars are very difficult to extract, i want to try more methods with cigars.

At first i will read and ask here for experiences.

Is here anyone who has made a strong cigar net and if yes, with wich method and with which cigar ?

I'm also a fan of Latakia. been trying several extraction methods, but not ethanol. Would you please link me to where you've described yours? Thanks.
 

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You are a fan of lataki ? Do you know the smoked lataki from net.com ? I love this stuff and also the dark fired. The smokiness of the fire cured tobaccos is that what i want.

Sometime i am thinking about to abduct Clay to press out all his receipies and secrets. But i live in germany. I need a little partner in crime.

Little - ? Moment, please :shock: Foggy, where do you live ? Are you still alive after trying all these strong nets ? :pervy:
 
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You are a fan of lataki ? Do you know the smoked lataki from net.com ? I love this stuff and also the dark fired. The smokiness of the fire cured tobaccos is that what i want.

Sometime i am thinking about to abduct Clay to press out all his receipies and secrets. But i live in germany. I need a little partner in crime.

Foggy, where do you live ?

Haven't tried theirs, rather plunged directly into DIY. This is the stuff I'm extracting ATM.

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Blending - Latakia - PipesandCigars.com
 

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Foogy, are you still alive ? I have nothing heart from him since yesterday ! Ohoh ?

Anthony, have you done your job ?

Jawohl, mein herr! Gesund und munter.

BTW, I live in Essex county in New Jersey. If you ever watched The Sopranos, you've seen my exact whereabouts... And btw, do you know what happens to little Germans and Aussies when they come here uninvited? :cool::eek::censored::thumbs:
 
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I stick with 70PG/30VG unless the blender suggests otherwise. If 50/50 is only available that's fine. I can't do high VG.
me too. i don't really have a problem with VG but it wicks so poorly. if i'm adding a flavor that is alcohol based (ie PGA) that is more than say 1.5ml per 30ml, i would do 50/50 as the alcohol would thin it down as if it were 70/30.

70/30 is almost like the perfect mixture. good TH from PG and just enough VG for good vapor.
 
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