Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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Dusty, have you tried Net.com Bombay ? How does Porch Rocker compare ? I do enjoy Latakia blends, but when the Latakia completely dominates, i can only vape them for couple of hours. Bombay, i can vape for longer.

I have tried Bombay, had to, seeing as how I grew up in that city. PR is lighter than Bombay in my opinion (atleast from what I can remember of it). The Latakia is mild in PR. If you can vape Bombay, you should have no problems with PR.
 

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Everyone has their reasons as to why they follow this particular thread. I came to this thread a couple of months ago to learn more about NET liquids. .

I have been going back to the original thread and reading a few pages a day. Not sure if i will ever catch up to the point i started following the current thread, but the first 50 pages or so have been very informative. You aren't going to find any discussion re the the newer vendors like MVJ, Net,com, Ether etc ... but tons on W2V,HHV, Ahl, GeJ etc ... I think i'm just getting to the juicy bits where the Ahl and HHV camps are beginning to form ;)
 

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Maz included a 4.x ml sample of GeJ's Wild Turkey with the juices he sent me, so it fit perfectly into a freshly wicked KFL. Haven't been able to see what the juice is about since the site is down, but obviously a Turkish based on name alone. It comes across as a mild Cigar, dry, slightly floral with a hint of spice to it. Vaping it at 10W right now, and it's not bad. Would I benefit by turning the heat up a bit?
 

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I guess I will dip my toe in this "off topic" discussion just for a bit of perspective. If it was covered in the 40 pages I miseed the last few days please excuse me.

Not venturing an opinion one way or the other, but just something to consider that dawned on me this morning...

I think a big reason why topics not specifically related to NET's leak into this forum all the time is because of two related issues: 1) this is the main (and perhaps sole) thread that many of us participate in at ECF, our online vaping "home" or "family" if you will and; 2) many of us have grown to be close acquaintances or even friends over the years. I am sure a subsidiary reason, like it is for me, is just sheer laziness and lack of time to search and wade into a few of hundreds of threads round these here parts. Plus, there are people in this thread who are more trustworthy in many hardware aspects than anyone else around.

Just something to consider. There is a general comfort level here amongst the core group that has grow close over the years.

That said, I will add this...despite the recent friction that has come with it, and in light of the thread shift to a lot of DIY discussion, I genuinely appreciate the group of newer NET converts who frequent this thread. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. It creates some friction now and again but in the long run it has the potential to make us all better vapers, if not people. With that in mind, if you are genuinely interested in being a conscientous member of the community I can tell you what really worked for me. I looked up the profiles, friends list, recent posts, and subscribed forums of the really active people here to get a sense of who they were, what they knew, etc and that definitely helped me to respect those worthy of it, to more accurately assess the opinions of many, and to reach out and form relationships with people.

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I agree wholeheartedly...
 

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Maz included a 4.x ml sample of GeJ's Wild Turkey with the juices he sent me, so it fit perfectly into a freshly wicked KFL. Haven't been able to see what the juice is about since the site is down, but obviously a Turkish based on name alone. It comes across as a mild Cigar, dry, slightly floral with a hint of spice to it. Vaping it at 10W right now, and it's not bad. Would I benefit by turning the heat up a bit?

I enjoy all my NET's in the 9-13 Watt range, and my palate is not discerning enough to detect a real difference by going up a watt or two tbh. I chose the wattage based on air flow of the particular device, and not based on the juice.
 

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Maz included a 4.x ml sample of GeJ's Wild Turkey with the juices he sent me, so it fit perfectly into a freshly wicked KFL. Haven't been able to see what the juice is about since the site is down, but obviously a Turkish based on name alone. It comes across as a mild Cigar, dry, slightly floral with a hint of spice to it. Vaping it at 10W right now, and it's not bad. Would I benefit by turning the heat up a bit?

I found the vendor description as part of Tezcat review :

Vendor Description: Our naturally extracted Turkish tobacco. This premium Tobacco eliquid is made from a blend of superior quality Turkish (Oriental) tobaccos that are selected from the finest regions. We extract the flavor over the course of several weeks and the end result is a naturally sweet and aromatic flavor with nothing else added. Yep, it's Organic by the way! Brewed the Goodejuice way! This flavor is only available in a 50/50 PG/VG mix due to the extraction process.

Thoughts: Although a little misleading, the name has nothing to do with Kentucky bourbon, or the large omnivorous foraging bird (Meleagris gallopavo) that Ben Franklin thought represented the United States better than the bald eagle. The name refers to the country, as in Anatolia, Asia Minor, the seat of the Ottoman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Trojan city-state, etc. More specifically, it refers to Turkish tobacco, also known as 'Oriental,' which is a small-leafed, sun-cured aromatic grown in Turkey and Egypt, among other countries (thank you Wikipedia). Turkish is common in pipe blends, and is popularly known as a constituent tobacco (blended with Virginia tobacco) in Camel cigarettes.

Wild Turkey is a smooth tobacco with decent throat-hit and vapor production, and is perfect for all-day vaping. At first vape, it is mellow and unassuming, and in my opinion one of the more genuine tobacco flavors available. Only after additional vaping (and proper steeping) does Wild Turkey reveal its complex layering. It is earthy, a little dry, and slightly spicy. It has a natural sweetness that rounds out the dryness and (like GeJ's other House Brewed tobaccos) is in no way overpowering. The flavor is reminiscent of the smell of a freshly opened pack of Camels, but is perhaps not quite as rich and is a shade darker, but devoid of any ash-try aftertaste. I've found that Wild Turkey is excellent with a cup of coffee, which brings out a slight fruity, almost cranberry tartness.

As we expect from all Naturally Extracted Tobaccos, Wild Turkey won't do your atomizer any favors. However, it is not a certified atty serial killer, due to GeJ's extensive filtration process.

Like the Trojan Horse (which should more accurately be called 'the Greek Horse,' if you think about it), Wild Turkey is seemingly harmless, simple, and mellow at first vape, but then it reveals the force that it's hiding inside only after you've allowed it into your home, fortress, city-state, or whatever the case may be.
 

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I also enjoyed the most esteemed Vapenstein review of Wild Turkey. For any of you who aren't familiar with this guy, he was a founding father of NET enthusiasm and his review still hold their own today.

http://.............../the-lab/juice-review/278-juice-review-goodejuice-wild-turkey-tobacco

EDIT: For some reason ECF is censoring the URL. I seem to remember a censor issue with Vapenstein in the past. Anyone know why???

In the meantime, here is his review:

I had kind of put this one on the back burner because I'm not nuts about alcohol infused tobacco. I'm low on juice I haven't reviewed yet, so I grabbed this one from The Juice Cellar this morning, and was pleasantly surprised to read the product description. Apparently this juice is not a bourbon flavored tobacco vape, but an Oriental tobacco extract. At least the product description would have me believe that. Excellent.

Tobacco is tobacco. The different types we smoke are not individual species, but merely cultivars of the same plant. Crazy huh? Virginia, Carolina, Burley, Oriental, all wildly different due to nothing more than climate and chemical composition of the soil they grow in. Perique, Cavendish, Kentucky and Latakia don't count because with all four there is a process involved.

Most cigarettes are a mix of Burley and Virginia tobacco, but if you're a Camel fan then you've been smoking Oriental. I find the flavor of Oriental to be dry and less sweet, and depending on the tobacco it can also have wonderful sour and/or bitter notes. It's naturally low in sugar and nicotine. On its own I find it a little dull, but mix it with some Virginia and Latakia and you have pure nirvana.

Nick makes a great tobacco extract, and today we're vaping his Goodejuice Wild Turkey Tobacco. I will be vaping this 18mg 50/50 blend at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.5 ohm Joye 306.

The nose of this juice is dry and somewhat powdery.

The flavor on inhale is faintly, very subtly sweet. This juice from the first impression gives a phenomenal tobacco presentation. It gets to the throat hit so fast that there isn't much time to think about how it tastes. This is tobacco in the earthy, hay-like tobacco extract way, but done really, really well. Also worth mentioning is that while I use the hay description that is common to a lot of natural extracts, this one tastes nothing like any of them. This tobacco tastes like a blazing hot day in the sun. Throat hit is spectacular for a natural extract. About as good as you could hope for in an eliquid without quite making it to Halo territory.

The flavor on exhale is about the closest to tobacco without having any kind of smoke element that I've ever vaped. I have to give it to Nick on this one. I would absolutely put my label on this juice. It's excellent. Vapor production is above average, owing to the 50/50 ratio.

Well this juice surprised me and just knocked my socks off. I think people with short attention spans who don't bother to read product descriptions might order this thinking it's a bourbon tobacco and be disappointed. They'll be missing the point altogether. This is one of the very finest tobacco vapes in all of vaping, and it increases the already high esteem I hold for Nick. Great job buddy, this is a top notch tobacco vape. Just superb. Do yourself a favor and get some of this, put on a fresh atty, and see what someone who really cares about their juice can do for your tobacco vape. Outstanding.
 

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Everyone has their reasons as to why they follow this particular thread. I came to this thread a couple of months ago to learn more about NET liquids. I agree fully that liquid safety is extremely important. However there are several threads in the general eliquid discussion that addresses this issue and to me this is where general discussions below. If it is directly related to NETs and especially a particular NET vendor my personal feeling is that it is appropriate to be advised in this particular thread without getting into long general discussions. Since I originally came to this thread to learn more about NET juices, I regard everyone’s input as important to me in deciding what vendor and which of their NETs are good choices even though in the end I make my own decisions good or bad. Although it was not the original intent of this thread I do like to read about which hardware works well with NETs as well as those that do not. I am not a DIYer so I usually scan these.. This is my personal opinions and some may agree and others may not — and that is OK.

I guess I will dip my toe in this "off topic" discussion just for a bit of perspective. If it was covered in the 40 pages I miseed the last few days please excuse me.

Not venturing an opinion one way or the other, but just something to consider that dawned on me this morning...

I think a big reason why topics not specifically related to NET's leak into this forum all the time is because of two related issues: 1) this is the main (and perhaps sole) thread that many of us participate in at ECF, our online vaping "home" or "family" if you will and; 2) many of us have grown to be close acquaintances or even friends over the years. I am sure a subsidiary reason, like it is for me, is just sheer laziness and lack of time to search and wade into a few of hundreds of threads round these here parts. Plus, there are people in this thread who are more trustworthy in many hardware aspects than anyone else around.

Just something to consider. There is a general comfort level here amongst the core group that has grow close over the years.

That said, I will add this...despite the recent friction that has come with it, and in light of the thread shift to a lot of DIY discussion, I genuinely appreciate the group of newer NET converts who frequent this thread. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. It creates some friction now and again but in the long run it has the potential to make us all better vapers, if not people. With that in mind, if you are genuinely interested in being a conscientous member of the community I can tell you what really worked for me. I looked up the profiles, friends list, recent posts, and subscribed forums of the really active people here to get a sense of who they were, what they knew, etc and that definitely helped me to respect those worthy of it, to more accurately assess the opinions of many, and to reach out and form relationships with people.

Peace

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Extremely well said guys!
 

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I enjoy all my NET's in the 9-13 Watt range, and my palate is not discerning enough to detect a real difference by going up a watt or two tbh. I chose the wattage based on air flow of the particular device, and not based on the juice.
I don't detect a noticeable difference in flavor either from different watts. I use mechs so power gradually lowers as the battery depletes; starting around 16 down to around 13 watts when I change batts. I notice less TH and vapor, the cue it's time for a fresh battery, but flavor remains the same. Not that I don't believe others who report drastically different flavor notes over a couple watts, just that I don't personally experience it.
 

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I would like to thank Midniteoyl for the avatar change. The old avatar always made me think "she". At least the new one comes across as asexual and helps me override subliminal assumptions. Yes, I realize I'm open to getting blasted by the PC police and deservedly so. :(

LOL... As I said before, "I get treated nicer with that avatar" ;)
 

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I would like to thank Midniteoyl for the avatar change. The old avatar always made me think "she". At least the new one comes across as asexual and helps me override subliminal assumptions. Yes, I realize I'm open to getting blasted by the PC police and deservedly so. :(
I'm against the change. Mid's wife is hawt, her face was a welcome change from all the sausage in here. ;)
 

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I just noticed that MVJ has also added spots for Diesel and Rocky Patel cigar vapes. I'm going to have a hard time not blowing a lot of money with them, when I get some spare change. There are still so many of the old juices over there I still want to try.


I simplified it for myself. I'm done with Cigar juices.. for now. Phew!
 

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I simplified it for myself. I'm done with Cigar juices.. for now. Phew!

I can't imagine life without cigar juices. I'm seriously contemplating ordering a 34ml bottle of Cohiba Red Dot with my next check. I have to have cigar juices in the mix to break up all of the pipes.

On a different note. I'm trying out MVJ's Drew Estate Meat Pie pipe vape. With a 1.6 ohm head in a Mini PT3 on an Evod battery (8.55 watts) it tastes an awful lot like Ashton's Artisan Blend without the Perique. This would be a good vape for fans of Ashton that want to cut back on the dark intensity. The latakia has a nice presence with a decent dose of campfire but no burning tire. There is a light sweetness playing a distant secondary role. This is a nice variation of the classic English blend.
 
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