Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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Me too. Much like Vita Bella, while many won't touch SC for months, I find them both wonderful fresh.
Past few days I've been vaping only Latakia from RiverBottom and Boba's Bounty.
Vapenstein, I'm curious, if you've tried Walker Tobacco Alternatives what your opinion is of those NETs.
Someone in my area extracted Gurkha Special Ops cigar. Talk about spectacular! He had no idea about this community so I told him all about it and he wound up giving me his bottle. I told him to hit up this thread. I hope he gets back with me so we can send it out as samples to some of you!
Sounds interesting, what county are you in LBB?
Looking to trade extra unprocessed pipe and cigar baccy if anyone's interested.
I have some thoughts on this subject that probably merit me posting it as its own thread. I suppose today with RDAs my feelings about NETs would be different, but back then I always hated what they did to coils and saw it as a dealbreaker. For now suffice it to say that NETs were not the way I was heading had I stayed commercially involved in vaping. I saw NETs as the foundation for the juice I ultimately wanted to build, which would have had all the flavor and tobacco satisfaction in a package that was as coil friendly as any juice you can think of. Unfortunately phase two never happened, but the world still turns on its axis and vaping is stronger than ever. I remember being the only guy in a 50 mile radius that vaped, and now at work I see 3 or 4 people vaping outside in the smoking area every time I walk out the door. This is turning into my memoirs, no I haven't tried Walker Tobacco Alternatives
Yeah, we've yet to be able to have our cake and eat it too; as much as I love many artificially flavored tobacco vapes, I've yet to experience one that's near the same level of authentic flavor as NET. And I've yet to experience an authentic NET that's as clean as regular juice. Maybe some day? I'm willing to put up with what they do to coils.. up to a limit.I have some thoughts on this subject that probably merit me posting it as its own thread. I suppose today with RDAs my feelings about NETs would be different, but back then I always hated what they did to coils and saw it as a dealbreaker. For now suffice it to say that NETs were not the way I was heading had I stayed commercially involved in vaping. I saw NETs as the foundation for the juice I ultimately wanted to build, which would have had all the flavor and tobacco satisfaction in a package that was as coil friendly as any juice you can think of. Unfortunately phase two never happened, but the world still turns on its axis and vaping is stronger than ever. I remember being the only guy in a 50 mile radius that vaped, and now at work I see 3 or 4 people vaping outside in the smoking area every time I walk out the door. This is turning into my memoirs, no I haven't tried Walker Tobacco Alternatives
WalkerT is much gunkier than I'm willing to tolerate. I asked if you've tried them because they are similar in style to a certain line that once had your name; super authentic, bold, potent tobaccos. Way too rough on coils though for my use, more violent than Paris.
Today was a great day for me as it's been one year since I had my last smoke. Truth be told, only had it because I paid over $10 for the last pack I bought. Really didn't need it as the last one I had before it was on Christmas 2013. But being cheap, couldn't see wasting the 20 cents 
Think because of that, been in a celebratory mood and been vaping cigar net's all day. Started the morning out with a nice smooth chocolate cigar vape; Midnite Lite from EV. Then switched it up to Starry Night from NET.com. Still can't taste the fruity stuff going on but it has a heck of a cigar punch as is. And now, vaping Poet and Scholar from RBFS. Really digging this one. I am almost getting a rum type of note in it but rum is not in the description. Whatever it is, it's working for me. Life is good!!
Think because of that, been in a celebratory mood and been vaping cigar net's all day. Started the morning out with a nice smooth chocolate cigar vape; Midnite Lite from EV. Then switched it up to Starry Night from NET.com. Still can't taste the fruity stuff going on but it has a heck of a cigar punch as is. And now, vaping Poet and Scholar from RBFS. Really digging this one. I am almost getting a rum type of note in it but rum is not in the description. Whatever it is, it's working for me. Life is good!!
There's a good deal on Propylene Glycol over on Amazon. A quart for $8.00 and as an add-on is good towards free shipping. That and 100 mg. Nic for $50 a liter makes for a lot of NET.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KDOT734/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1CSAQEKT3S15X
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KDOT734/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1CSAQEKT3S15X
MikeNice81 recommended a couple of cigars to try and I have to say that I found a winner finally with an Ashton Aged Maduro. A really smooth vape with Chocolate and Coffee going in and a nice but not bitter Nut flavor going out. He also recommended a Paul Stulac Lord of Albany which I'll try next. Thanks Mike. 
I've extracted close to 30 cigars. With the exception of Tatiana flavored cigarillos only DE Blondie and Kuba-Kuba Deluxe worked for me. And now the AAM. I think I'm done with cigars.
I've extracted close to 30 cigars. With the exception of Tatiana flavored cigarillos only DE Blondie and Kuba-Kuba Deluxe worked for me. And now the AAM. I think I'm done with cigars.
MikeNice81 recommended a couple of cigars to try and I have to say that I found a winner finally with an Ashton Aged Maduro. A really smooth vape with Chocolate and Coffee going in and a nice but not bitter Nut flavor going out. He also recommended a Paul Stulac Lord of Albany which I'll try next. Thanks Mike.
I've extracted close to 30 cigars. With the exception of Tatiana flavored cigarillos only DE Blondie and Kuba-Kuba Deluxe worked for me. And now the AAM. I think I'm done with cigars.
the trick about cigar extractions is that you don't want to use a cigar that you'd want to smoke. Successful cigar extractions come from not the best cigars, but cigars with strong flavor. I wouldn't waste a Cuban on an extraction.
If I was setting out to make a cigar vape with decent flavor today, I'd probably start by testing extractions from a Drew Estate Nica Rustica and maybe an E.P. Carrillo Core maduro, both inexpensive cigars with fairly round and strong flavor profiles.
MikeNice81 said the same thing. Guess you guys are onto something. Back to the cigar Shop I go. Thanks for the tip Vapenstein.
The one I would definitely try is the La Jugada Prieto. I haven't extracted one yet. I did smoke one recently on a trip to Nashville. By the last third the chocolate and coffee were so tho k I was tempted to take a bite.
On the other hand a well aged CAO Gold is a great mild smoke when aged about four months. I would never expect it to translate well in the extraction process.
To each his own
And yes, many thanks again for the W2V recommendation! They don't ship abroad, and their re-seller who does didn't have any 6mg strength (second NET vendor in a row I have encountered this with, argh) but I went ahead and ordered anyway, London and Paris from the signature line, + some Alcazar and Blond. Looking forward to trying them out.
Want2vape do ship abroad on a site called Vulcan Vape. It is an international distributor for many popular vendors and a godsend for people like me in Australia.
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I've done it again. Put up a post and disappeared, leaving a respondent in the lurch. Sorry about that Loulou.
In short, PG conveys flavour better than VG. PG is better for flavor, VG produces more vapor.
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Anyone who spends much time on ECF sees this bit of "traditional" wisdom repeated over and over, almost always accompanied by the statement that VG produces more vapor than PG (as Anthony wrote).
With no disrespect intended toward Anthony, I no longer accept the assertion that PG conveys flavor better than VG. Numerous posters I respect on the DIY forums have challenged that assumption as well.
I agree that VG produces more/thicker vapor, but I don't find VG an "inferior" carrier for flavor. Flavorings do take longer to distribute or dissolve into VG than PG. The overall vaping experience of VG versus PG may be slightly different, but that's due, I think, to other characteristics of each base liquid, such as viscosity, rather than ability to convey flavor, per se.
YMMV, of course.
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