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Wow, interesting conversation. Pretty much all the things said I like to see in a juice vendor, but it's mostly icing. Flavor and performance are the only key things for me, and I get most of that info from people here insead of from the vendor; and then it's a matter of trying them to see if I enjoy them. If I enjoy a vendors juices, things like transparancy, methods, ratios, price, and options don't have a huge effect on whether I'll order, but I have more respect for vendors who do that stuff well.

For steeping, meh I'm indifferent. I think it's a good idea for all vapers to have a lot of juice that they like on hand, always. If a juice takes a couple months to hit it's sweet spot, no problemo, I'll still be vaping in a couple months and will need good juice on hand when it's ready; and I already have juices that are ready to vape until that happens. I much prefer a juice that gets better over time to one that loses flavor over time.

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Wow, interesting conversation. Pretty much all the things said I like to see in a juice vendor, but it's mostly icing. Flavor and performance are the only key things for me, and I get most of that info from people here insead of from the vendor; and then it's a matter of trying them to see if I enjoy them. If I enjoy a vendors juices, things like transparancy, methods, ratios, price, and options don't have a huge effect on whether I'll order, but I have more respect for vendors who do that stuff well.

For steeping, meh I'm indifferent. I think it's a good idea for all vapers to have a lot of juice that they like on hand, always. If a juice takes a couple months to hit it's sweet spot, no problemo, I'll still be vaping in a couple months and will need good juice on hand when it's ready; and I already have juices that are ready to vape until that happens. I much prefer a juice that gets better over time to one that loses flavor over time.

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Totally. I like to think of it less as steeping (I hate that word as nothing is really steeping), but buying liquid ahead of schedule. What's today's date? Aw man, I need to order for October. LOL

p.s. Jerms, you got some vape mail and some, shhh, coming. ;)
 

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One interesting trend is pre-steeping using ultrasonic cleaners. A few vendors do this. I believe Ahlusion Wlad is using some UV wizardry for the XPress line, no? It would be interesting to see more vendors offer a pre-steeping option for those that like to vape right away. Many of you have liters of juice and have more than enough that a month+ of steeping happens before you even get to it.
 

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Got my sampler in from QnJ. Tried the Qua4tro and Godznilla. Very very nice and smooth. Qua4tro definitely has pipe tobacco qualities. Godznilla is mostly tobacco with a hint of vanilla. Both are excellent. I'll try out grandpa's night cap tonight. Bottle smells delicious if that means anything. I think I've found another winner.
 

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One interesting trend is pre-steeping using ultrasonic cleaners. A few vendors do this. I believe Ahlusion Wlad is using some UV wizardry for the XPress line, no? It would be interesting to see more vendors offer a pre-steeping option for those that like to vape right away. Many of you have liters of juice and have more than enough that a month+ of steeping happens before you even get to it.

I know the homie, Rob Glass-Tip, is steeping in the San Diego sun. Apparently, and I have seen the pics, he gets super steeped liquids really fast. I tried it out here, but Michigan skies laughed at me. :(
 

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Totally. I like to think of it less as steeping (I hate that word as nothing is really steeping), but buying liquid ahead of schedule. What's today's date? Aw man, I need to order for October. LOL

p.s. Jerms, you got some vape mail and some, shhh, coming. ;)

Hehe, thanks bruthah, looking forward to it. I'm on a semi buying freeze for a little bit, since funds are going to be really tight for a little bit while I save up for a non-vape related item, so it'll be nice to have a couple new things to try.

Most vapers learn with time the importance of buying ahead of schedule. Can't say I've done that by plan though, just the way it's turned out to be. There's more juices out there I want to try than time in the day to vape them, so the effort is buying less juice less often to keep my stash managable.

Can't blame new vapers for being caught off guard when they start hearing they may have to wait for the juice to be great. "Wait, I have to let this age... a whole week?!" Yep, and in some cases much longer, but you'll get used to it.

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Hehe, thanks bruthah, looking forward to it. I'm on a semi buying freeze for a little bit, since funds are going to be really tight for a little bit while I save up for a non-vape related item, so it'll be nice to have a couple new things to try.

Most vapers learn with time the importance of buying ahead of schedule. Can't say I've done that by plan though, just the way it's turned out to be. There's more juices out there I want to try than time in the day to vape them, so the effort is buying less juice less often to keep my stash managable.

Can't blame new vapers for being caught off guard when they start hearing they may have to wait for the juice to be great. "Wait, I have to let this age... a whole week?!" Yep, and in some cases much longer, but you'll get used to it.

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And of course, a day after I sent it (yesterday), I realized a juice I wanted you to try is completely coming alive. I didn't want to send you a liquid and say, "let it steep." Soon, my friend, soon. Damn! I wish I would've sent this too. Oh well. You don't plan on giving up vaping soon do you? hahahaha.

I seriously (I've said it before) am not buying any more untested liquids. I finally got the liquids I am settling down with. My last attempt at untested liquids was N O T good. Aside from NET.com trials, No mas!

From here on out, I can actually plan my purchases, leave them sealed and chill. I ain't scurred of no FDA!

York Multi-Hex Trap bar is coming next. LOL. Who the hell needs another mod when you can deadlift/squat in one movement? Okay. I am flying off the handles now. :yawn:
 

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How important is vapability right out of the box? Does this matter to any of you all? Are there any NET vapers that don't dig on the steeping?

p.s. I'll be back in the shadows very soon...

I will probably get banned from this thread, but I do NOT steep. If I do not like a juice out of the box, then I probably will not like it later on. I will put it on the shelf, and try it again after about 2 more weeks. If it is still a no go, then to the PIF box it goes. How much would you enjoy a new car, if you had to park it for a year before you could drive it?
 

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Wow, interesting conversation. Pretty much all the things said I like to see in a juice vendor, but it's mostly icing. Flavor and performance are the only key things for me, and I get most of that info from people here insead of from the vendor; and then it's a matter of trying them to see if I enjoy them. If I enjoy a vendors juices, things like transparancy, methods, ratios, price, and options don't have a huge effect on whether I'll order, but I have more respect for vendors who do that stuff well.

For steeping, meh I'm indifferent. I think it's a good idea for all vapers to have a lot of juice that they like on hand, always. If a juice takes a couple months to hit it's sweet spot, no problemo, I'll still be vaping in a couple months and will need good juice on hand when it's ready; and I already have juices that are ready to vape until that happens. I much prefer a juice that gets better over time to one that loses flavor over time.

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Saved me a lot of typing. Exactly my thoughts.
 

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Mann, how is that Brasileiro working out for ya?

I have some in a CE5 and I wish I could share it with everyone on this thread. It is sunshine and magic and smiles.

It's an absurd liquid. I mean that in the BEST way possible, but I drink too much coffee to really enjoy it (coffee is always on my palate). Personally, I prefer DEMP--now that is really my kinda liquid. Sorry I never said this before Scarf, but I don't think you are given the credit for what you have sparked in the community. You've given something I never could--a roadmap.
 

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I will probably get banned from this thread, but I do NOT steep. If I do not like a juice out of the box, then I probably will not like it later on. I will put it on the shelf, and try it again after about 2 more weeks. If it is still a no go, then to the PIF box it goes. How much would you enjoy a new car, if you had to park it for a year before you could drive it?

I understand, but just remember to PM me after 2 weeks. ;)
 

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Wow, interesting conversation. Pretty much all the things said I like to see in a juice vendor, but it's mostly icing. Flavor and performance are the only key things for me, and I get most of that info from people here insead of from the vendor; and then it's a matter of trying them to see if I enjoy them. If I enjoy a vendors juices, things like transparancy, methods, ratios, price, and options don't have a huge effect on whether I'll order, but I have more respect for vendors who do that stuff well.

For steeping, meh I'm indifferent. I think it's a good idea for all vapers to have a lot of juice that they like on hand, always. If a juice takes a couple months to hit it's sweet spot, no problemo, I'll still be vaping in a couple months and will need good juice on hand when it's ready; and I already have juices that are ready to vape until that happens. I much prefer a juice that gets better over time to one that loses flavor over time.

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Saved me a lot of typing. Exactly my thoughts.

What y cherry y said.
 

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If I make you the best burger in the world and you come back to my restaurant (hypothetically) every day for that wonderful burger the quickest way for me to go broke is to tell you exactly how to make it yourself and what I put in it.

I too would be going down the S T F U route before I told you that my cousin Jim grows his own veggie patch and he lives alongside a creek with some very fertile land where he grows his own special tomatoes, lettuce, fresh produce that goes in my burgers and his lovely wife Diana mixes her own home made mayonnaise which goes into my burger. (All hypothetical).

And if I stuck supermarket grade Mayo in my burgers and bought the veges at any typical grocer the mystique of my burgers might disappear. Any information that is going to lose me business is information I would withhold.

Capitalism, it's fun.

Great analogy, dude. I wish I could try one of your juicy burgers. :D
 

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Wow, interesting conversation. Pretty much all the things said I like to see in a juice vendor, but it's mostly icing. Flavor and performance are the only key things for me, and I get most of that info from people here insead of from the vendor; and then it's a matter of trying them to see if I enjoy them. If I enjoy a vendors juices, things like transparancy, methods, ratios, price, and options don't have a huge effect on whether I'll order, but I have more respect for vendors who do that stuff well.

For steeping, meh I'm indifferent. I think it's a good idea for all vapers to have a lot of juice that they like on hand, always. If a juice takes a couple months to hit it's sweet spot, no problemo, I'll still be vaping in a couple months and will need good juice on hand when it's ready; and I already have juices that are ready to vape until that happens. I much prefer a juice that gets better over time to one that loses flavor over time.

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Saved me a lot of typing. Exactly my thoughts.

What y cherry y said.

What Direwolf said about what y cherry y said about what Jerms said!

(I love y'all! LOL) Back to the grind tomorrow.
 

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One interesting trend is pre-steeping using ultrasonic cleaners. A few vendors do this. I believe Ahlusion Wlad is using some UV wizardry for the XPress line, no? It would be interesting to see more vendors offer a pre-steeping option for those that like to vape right away. Many of you have liters of juice and have more than enough that a month+ of steeping happens before you even get to it.

Yeah, he said something about UV treatment. But to me those XPress liquids are just a teeny bit more steeped than the profiled ones. The long-steepers are still long steepers.
 

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There's something that I've been thinking about today while switching back and forth between Patriot and Dragon's Fire and Serendipity and so on, and if it's a line of discussion that's already been covered before then someone can simply say so and I can nix the notion. But...

If you had to go though your collection of various juices and single out one that you would be content with vaping for the remainder of your vaping days, which one would it be? Unlike me, most of you have delved into the mass majority of NET's available and it would be interesting to see just which NET you tobacco aficionados just couldn't live without and (albeit begrudgingly and reluctantly in most cases) would choose to vape exclusively if you had to do so.
 

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It's an absurd liquid. I mean that in the BEST way possible, but I drink too much coffee to really enjoy it (coffee is always on my palate). Personally, I prefer DEMP--now that is really my kinda liquid.
DEMP?
Sorry I never said this before Scarf, but I don't think you are given the credit for what you have sparked in the community. You've given something I never could--a roadmap.

Not sure what you mean... please elaborate.
 
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