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It looks like they work with companies at this time. No online shopping. They just have a sales contact number.
I wonder if they're the company HHV uses to get their distilled extracts.
I recently used Peter Stokkebye Turkish Pipe tobacco for a home-brewed extract. Although designated as a pipe tobacco, all the user reviews on Pipes&Cigars.com for that particular blend were from cigarette smokers who lauded PS Turkish as one of the most satisfying RYO blends available. That's why I bought a one-ounce sampler.
The extract is in the same ball park as my cigarette extracts from Nat Sherman MCD and American Spirit Organic. It's made from Turkish Samsoun tobacco (a "legendary" Oriental leaf) that's blended with a couple of different Virginias. While defined as "mildly aromatic," PS Turkish Pipe has little to none of the "pipe blend hybrid effect" that often results from blends that are heavily cased or to which other flavorings are added during curing or blending. Such "hybrid" pipe blends lean toward the dessert end of the scale, either subtly or obviously, which then becomes even more noticeable when they're used to make extract.
I'd hazard a guess that most standard cigarette brands are produced from relatively low-quality tobaccos and are chock-full of fillers and additives. I don't know how extracts made from those would taste. But the high-end specialty cigarettes (such as Nat Sherman and American Spirit) make extracts that are quite clean in flavor, with a truer tobacco taste. I imagine that this would be the case with some of the higher-quality RYO tobaccos as well.
My experience---anecdotal, of course, so I wouldn't suggest that it's true for everyone---is that both GeJ Fire Cured and Wild Turkey are reverse-steepers, best when fresh and then gradually downhill from there. Organic #1, however, gets better with age.
Wow, that's good to know someone has done it. How is the result? Do you like it?
I tend to agree. Once I started smoking those brands, I became an instant snob. I couldn't bring myself to smoke a standard factory cig after that. Do you know of any vendors who make these available, aside from GeJ?
Oh, I see. I had heard most people say that [GeJ NETs in general] are reverse steepers, and I sort of gave them all up for dead. Too many bottles to keep track of. I'll have to remember that about Organic.
Thanks for the info, and the good read!
I'm vaping some PS Turkish NET right now, and yes, I like it. It's not quite as flavorful as Nat Sherman MCD and not as complex as American Spirit Organic, but it has that lovely Turkish quality of amazing smoothness. Here's where I got the one-ounce sampler from which I brewed that extract:
Peter Stokkebye Bulk Tobaccos from pipesandcigars.com
I don't know what tobaccos Nick uses for GeJ's NETs. I think he blends his own with help from a master tobacconist. Clay at Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com offers both Nat Shermans (in two varieties that he calls NS Dark and NS Brown. I'd guess that those are probably Nat Sherman Cigarettello and MCD respectively) and American Spirits (as Big Spirit and Organic Spirit).
Cigarette-style NET eliquids from N-E-T.com
All of Clay's NETs are available as extracts also:
Extracts from N-E-T.com
Haha good luck with that. Pretty sure their source of extracts is a secret they won't reveal, but never hurts to ask!
I've wondered about that, how making an extract of Camel, Marlboro, or god forbid, one of the ultra cheap generic brands, would turn out. My guess would be along the line of mediocre to horrid depending on the brand.
I haven't had WT, but FC was a reverse steeper for me also. The rest I've had weren't.
Thanks for the links. As for Pipes&Cigars -- I actually used to order tobacco from them -- to smoke. Unfortunately I don't have any plans to get into doing my own extractions or DIY. Until I change my mind...
Beware: they put me on a couple mailing lists without my ok or even my knowledge, and then gave me the devil when I tried to opt out.
No, no of course they wouldn't tell their sources! I wanted to see if they sell their extracts... I'm afraid to hear that minimum order might be 100 gallons
Do you want to split 100 gallons with me 
We looked at Tobaccoextracts.com way back last year. I don't remember why but something kept them from being a viable option for extract, probably large minimum order. What I would love to find out is how they filter it. Extraction is fairly simple and straightforward, filtration (without expensive equipment) is a bit more challenging.
I find your comments spot on bill. Usually I stick to single leaf blending tobacco's. I get very clean extracts that blend quite readily with each other. Along the way I've tried flavored tobacco's like Sunday Morning or Cigars like Kuba-Kuba. These flavored and cased tobaccos do not mix well with single leaf flavors. However, a few of them are quite good all by themselves, like the aforementioned Sunday Morning or Borkum Riff.
I think they mentioned distillation for the e-juice applications. If the flavor impact is minimal than distilled non-sweetened extracts might have minimal impact on the coils.
That would be sweet. It will be interesting to hear back from them. If their minimum order isn't outrageous, I'd be in for a group buy.
While we're on extracts, I pulled a small sample from my Perique that's two weeks into a cold maceration and it is bangin! Sweet and sour fermented funkiness!
HHV, Vermillian River, and Darth Vapers all use tobacco extracts made by steam distillation and it makes for very clean NETs. DV does it themselves, while the other two outsource it. Would be interesting to find out if this site works with either of them.
Speaking of Darth Vapers.. what happened?? Their site isn't there. They have a sub-forum here at ECF and I don't see any mention of anything going on.
vaping river bottom fog sauce, pirate's drunkin sweet tooth, and st. james parish. man is it good. from vapingwatch.com same place that sells radiator pluid and agent orange!
Look what just arrived in the mail
Details coming soon...just need to fight off my jet-lag induced congestion.
Details coming soon...just need to fight off my jet-lag induced congestion.
I couldn't find them either, I broke out my DV BFF, the other day, and went to check out the flavor profile. The BFF is meh right now, I'll let it steep a few days, right now the flavor is muted/ muddy, what I've experienced with a few others I bought from them. They could be joining the Ranks of High Brow & BWB for me... never more.
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