Natural Tobaccos

[Roots820]

I haven't seen posts that compare the two, that's news to me. I already plan on getting Heavenly Army next order, if it's similar to Smooth Criminal to me I'd be very happy indeed. Isn't HA suppose to be similar to Boba's?

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HA is nothing like Boba's. HA is like a sweet tobacco with a little something extra. It reminds me a lot of HHV Shadow if you've had it, but I like Shadow a bit more. Boba's is just raisin to me. I've had about 10 mls of Boba's so far and I like it but not really sure why. I didn't vape it for two weeks and I picked up the bottle tonight to shake it and I could almost taste it just picking it up. Like I had a recall of it, so I put it in a clearo. It has a taste that is not special to me to me but still memorable apparently. /rant

 

[Mr.Mann]

HA is nothing like Boba's. HA is like a sweet tobacco with a little something extra. It reminds me a lot of HHV Shadow if you've had it, but I like Shadow a bit more. Boba's is just raisin to me. I've had about 10 mls of Boba's so far and I like it but not really sure why. I didn't vape it for two weeks and I picked up the bottle tonight to shake it and I could almost taste it just picking it up. Like I had a recall of it, so I put it in a clearo. It has a taste that is not special to me to me but still memorable apparently. /rant

Hell, I vaped Boba's tonight. Oh, and I got to give GT some props for calling it--it does change quite a bit with steeping! This juice is old enough to read as tobacco. Did he say it? Yup, with his night glass of wine.

 

[Roots820]

Hell, I vaped Boba's tonight. Oh, and I got to give GT some props for calling it--it does change quite a bit with steeping! This juice is old enough to read as tobacco. Did he say it? Yup, with his night glass of wine.

I'm kind of surprised by this. I took MM for a natural tobacco only kind of guy.

*Well except for Halo long ago apparently.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'm kind of surprised by this. I took MM for a natural tobacco only kind of guy.

*Well except for Halo long ago apparently.

Well, I don't talk about most of the stuff that I have in my possession or what I vape. The only thing worth talking about most of the time for me is NETs. I mean seriously! I don't mind drinking Milwaukee's Best, but I ain't got much to say about it. I got some Al Bundy in me, but that guy keeps to himself with his typing hand comfortably lodged where it should be--right near his DK-Tab.

 

[Roots820]

Well, I don't talk about most of the stuff that I have in my possession or what I vape. The only thing worth talking about most of the time for me is NETs. I mean seriously! I don't mind drinking Milwaukee's Best, but I ain't got much to say about it. I got some Al Bundy in me, but that guy keeps to himself with his typing hand comfortably lodged where it should be--right near his DK-Tab.

As opposed to Al Bundy, who keeps his hand comfortably in his shorts?

 

[Roots820]

Patriot is just rockin' right now. It's funny because I get just a hint of smokiness from it on the exhale. At first I thought I was burning through my atty so I stopped. Nope. It's just awesome juice.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Patriot is just rockin' right now. It's funny because I get just a hint of smokiness from it on the exhale. At first I thought I was burning through my atty so I stopped. Nope. It's just awesome juice.

Yep. Patriot is the one juice that I think all NETv should try. Just my personal opinion, and not saying it is the best, but that juice is like one of your friends that you can take anywhere and he/she manages to fit in.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Speaking of Smooth Criminal. I am, ahem, getting some last vapes in of this bottle--but wait a minute. What about this--my personally profiled Smooth Criminal. If I had enough I would share it with all my friends, but alas, I can't because I don't have enough. All I can say is for those that know what is up with Ahl, please, please talk to the man about what you want out of your liquids. No liquid as a stock juice will always work for you, but good Gawd I reached the pinnacle (I think) with this one. The worst part is that I have hung-up my reviewing hat. I just don't have the mental space to think deeply right now about eliquid. I wish I could. All I can really say is my profiled SC is incredible. The funny thing is that SC is one juice you won't find really deep reviews on--it is quite elusive, kinda like a Smooth Criminal.

I am officially sucked back in to juice buying.

 

[CannedWolf]

Speaking of Smooth Criminal. I am, ahem, getting some last vapes in of this bottle--but wait a minute. What about this--my personally profiled Smooth Criminal. If I had enough I would share it with all my friends, but alas, I can't because I don't have enough. All I can say is for those that know what is up with Ahl, please, please talk to the man about what you want out of your liquids. No liquid as a stock juice will always work for you, but good Gawd I reached the pinnacle (I think) with this one. The worst part is that I have hung-up my reviewing hat. I just don't have the mental space to think deeply right now about eliquid. I wish I could. All I can really say is my profiled SC is incredible. The funny thing is that SC is one juice you won't find really deep reviews on--it is quite elusive, kinda like a Smooth Criminal.

I am officially sucked back in to juice buying.

I know bits and pieces of my profile but, am still struggling to articulate it... i dont want to waste the Chief's time. I think once i get a bit more under my belt and let some of those steeping mature a bit, I can help guide him better. Thoughts?

 

[Mr.Mann]

I know bits and pieces of my profile but, am still struggling to articulate it... i dont want to waste the Chief's time. I think once i get a bit more under my belt and let some of those steeping mature a bit, I can help guide him better. Thoughts?

Well, I can guarantee you one of his pet peeves is his customers thinking they're wasting his time. I love wasting his time! LOL. It has greatly benefited me.

Seriously, most of the time I talk to him he is reading between the lines anyway. I got too many emails between me and him to count, but somewhere buried in all of those ramblings I have talked about what I like and don't like. Hell, even if you are talking about stuff in general, he can figure it out.

For instance, what do you really want to find in an elqiuid? What are you sick of constantly finding? Where do you think most tobacco liquids falter? Where do most NETs shine? Do you like black coffee? What kind of coffee?

You know, general stuff. Even if he doesn't get it right, I bet you he'll try. All of that info gets processed. I know it may seem highfalutin, but it has worked for me.

Once the conversation begins, the profile follows (if you're a customer).

 

[billherbst]

I picked up some new HHV liquids recently as well, including Heavenly Army. Not terribly impressed by it. I've seen a few people compare it to Smooth Criminal which was going to be on my first order from Ahlusion. Should I wave off on that one? How similar are they?

To my palate, Heavenly Army is not even remotely similar to Smooth Criminal. That judgment may be colored by the fact that I like SC a lot, but don't like HA at all.

 

[Roots820]

So after a discussion with him he chose SC for you? Is this a modified SC other than Xpress?

 

[Mr.Mann]

So after a discussion with him he chose SC for you? Is this a modified SC other than Xpress?

No. I first ordered SC before I had a profile (last year). The one you and I talked about in PM is the stock SC, like the one I ordered last year, but this one is the XPress which is pre-steped. The profiled one is one that I had worked with him on for a couple weeks through email (about 2 months ago). I was trying to explain to him (over the course of maybe 5+ email exchanges) what more I wanted out of Smooth Criminal. Although, having both, I can't say mine is better, but it is what I wanted, which is awesome! If I want the stock SC all I have to do is ask. If I want my profiled version, all I have to do is ask.

It's tricky, but it's simple as hell.

 

[Mr.Mann]

hahahahahahhaha!

Boy, I tell ya', sometimes things just happen the way they should. I, as I hit post on my last post, heard my email alert go off. This is the email I got:

Hi (Mann),

You placed an order xxxxxxxxxxxxx 24 April 2013 with Ahlusion and we would love to hear your feedback! This is in an effort to continually improve on the quality of our products. We ask for direct feedback as it helps us to create better e-liquids for you. Every customer has a flavor profile and we populate that profile based on the feedback you give us. Your specific flavor profile is used on future orders and in this case, helps us to prepare e-liquids unique to your preferences. Please note that feedback is not the same as a public review; feedback involves specific details on the e-liquids or flavors such as likes, dislikes, or other flavor specific perceptions and effects sent directly to us. Of course, you are still welcome to share your thoughts publicly - good or bad! If you write a public review all we ask for is your honest experience.

 

[Roots820]

Wow that is awesome!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Wow that is awesome!

Now as to what I will say? I think I'll just ask for seconds. After awhile, unless you're trying new liquids, there isn't a whole lot left to say. But, it never hurts to try.

Roots and CW, I will send you a PM of my first exchange with W about how I tweaked my SC. It's not all that deep, but I don't want to talk too much about Ahlusion in this thread--I don't like them that much.

 

[CannedWolf]

hahahahahahhaha!

Boy, I tell ya', sometimes things just happen the way they should. I, as I hit post on my last post, heard my email alert go off. This is the email I got:

Hi (Mann),

You placed an order xxxxxxxxxxxxx 24 April 2013 with Ahlusion and we would love to hear your feedback! This is in an effort to continually improve on the quality of our products. We ask for direct feedback as it helps us to create better e-liquids for you. Every customer has a flavor profile and we populate that profile based on the feedback you give us. Your specific flavor profile is used on future orders and in this case, helps us to prepare e-liquids unique to your preferences. Please note that feedback is not the same as a public review; feedback involves specific details on the e-liquids or flavors such as likes, dislikes, or other flavor specific perceptions and effects sent directly to us. Of course, you are still welcome to share your thoughts publicly - good or bad! If you write a public review all we ask for is your honest experience.

I got one yesterday

 

[Mr.Mann]

I got one yesterday

PM sent. Hopefully that will help.

 

[scarf-ace]

Patriot is just rockin' right now. It's funny because I get just a hint of smokiness from it on the exhale. At first I thought I was burning through my atty so I stopped. Nope. It's just awesome juice.

Who here besides Mr Mann has vaped both Patriot V1 and Patriot V2? I have still not tried the "new" Patriot.

 

[scarf-ace]

To my palate, Heavenly Army is not even remotely similar to Smooth Criminal. That judgment may be colored by the fact that I like SC a lot, but don't like HA at all.

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second part. I just can't get into SC, and I vaped about 8mls of it just to be DARN sure. Heavenly Army is one of my staples.