Well thanks for the info anyways, just ordered samsung inr18650 20R 2000mah. Will take forever to get here but no rush here. Thanks for all your help thus far.
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AW IMR 18350
Efest IMR 18350
both very comfortably down to 0.8Ω . . . . . and 0.7Ω is still above max. continuous discharge rating
Efest IMR 18350
both very comfortably down to 0.8Ω . . . . . and 0.7Ω is still above max. continuous discharge rating
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Orbtronic will sell new 22 A / 29 A battery (according their Facebook announcement). Now, is it Samsung 22R or Sanyo RX time will tell.
Doesn't matter really when they'll probably be selling it for twice the price you can pick the original cells up for.
so i bought an astro clone to delve into mechanical mods and sub ohm vaping.
i was told by a store guy that the stock eVic battery would be OK for use in a mech mod with a sub ohm coil (its a Samsung 18650 unprotected 2200mAh battery).
^^ true/false?
i was told by a store guy that the stock eVic battery would be OK for use in a mech mod with a sub ohm coil (its a Samsung 18650 unprotected 2200mAh battery).
^^ true/false?
Before getting into sub ohm vaping, you need to be able to find out yourself what the battery chemistry is (ICR, IMR, INR, etc) and what type of chemistry you feel is safest; and what the max discharge it's rated at. With that info, you can decide if it's in a safe range for you with how many amps you want to pull.
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actually i've already got the AW IMR 18650 1600mAH batteries. the stock eVic battery is ICR chemistry, but I cant seem to find good info on its discharge rating. was just wondering if anyone has tried it with/without success. apologies if i phrased the post wrongly.
No, don't use any unprotected ICR in any mech, for neither sub ohm or standard ohm vaping.
The amp limit is probably not very high, and ICR is also an unsafe chemistry to use in an unregulated device if it's unprotected. And slap the store guy who's handing out the bad info for me lol.
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yep. ICR (cobalt) is volatile chemistry. I wouldn't use it for anything. One doesn't need subΩ to inadvertently overtax a battery.
Countless hours were spent to discuss which li-ion battery is safe.
Simple rule is that if cell is rated for 10 Amps or more you can use it in your mech.
I wouldn't even bother to ask if cell is IMR, ICR, INR, IFR, NNP, NCR, CGR, (confusing,,,).
Max continuous load in Amps is question to ask. Problem solved.
IMR is old chemistry, and it is not the only safer solution any more.
BTW my personal opinion is that word "SAFE" should be banned when talking about li-ion.
It is misused so many times, and could make false sense of 100% safety.
As long as you using batteries properly (basicaly making sure that positive and negative never get shorted)
you will be fine with any battery rated 10 Amps and up.
Simple rule is that if cell is rated for 10 Amps or more you can use it in your mech.
I wouldn't even bother to ask if cell is IMR, ICR, INR, IFR, NNP, NCR, CGR, (confusing,,,).
Max continuous load in Amps is question to ask. Problem solved.
IMR is old chemistry, and it is not the only safer solution any more.
BTW my personal opinion is that word "SAFE" should be banned when talking about li-ion.
It is misused so many times, and could make false sense of 100% safety.
As long as you using batteries properly (basicaly making sure that positive and negative never get shorted)
you will be fine with any battery rated 10 Amps and up.
. . . . and, though the times may be a changin' . . .. I don't see how ICR batteries (which, I believe, are the old school chem.) are suddenly less volatile? Always open to learning new things . . . . .
According to the thread that has been around for a few years by Rolygate, stickied in the ECF library the rule number 1, first thing said and often repeated in the artical, is to NOT use ANY unprotected ICR in any APV applications. The highest recommended is AW IMR, and second recommended is the newer hybrids like the Panasonics, Samsungs, and Sonys that are made for high-drain (often INR). Down lower on the list is protected ICR, and below that again it's repeated to never use unprotected ICR.
I've been reading a lot of newer people stating that has changed and any battery that is high-drain is safe, though I haven't seen proof and I haven't seen any veterans agree that it's changed, but who knows? Maybe us older folks just have a higher preference of not blowing our lips off our face.
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