New ATO : Like genesis But no heat wire

[pailpoe]

I open a new post for this Ato with no heat wire.
Thank you for introducing me to this material. It's enormous.
Ultra low LR ato : 0,4 Ohms.
Mesh : 400
Width : 14mm
Diameter : 2,2mm
Distance beetween electrode : 10mm
Pin : 10w
Iin : 5A
- No burn taste
- Hit and taste are
- Vapor is

 

[5cardstud]

How about a close up of the mesh area where the vapor comes from. LOL

 

[pailpoe]

Everything is possible tonight

 

[pailpoe]

 

[pailpoe]

Electronic probe for build this Ato (gold plated).

 

[pailpoe]

I try tonight to work in Ultra Low voltage Atty : 0,1 Ohm 10w@10A/1v to use a Nimh battery in 1,2v.
My work place:

- A power supply 0-60A
- A oscilloscope
-... liquid

 

[jlodvo]

Electronic probe for build this Ato (gold plated).

where to buy this stuff?

 

[pailpoe]

In france, I buy at Farnell / Electronic Component Distributors / Suppliers / Electronics, Electrical Parts, Electrical Components and Wholesale Electronics. .
Manufacturer : FEINMETALL
exemple :
FEINMETALL|H772LA|RECEPTACLE | Farnell France

 

[jlodvo]

pailpoe great great work, can you explain a little more about the H772LA is this the one thats heating up the mesh? if its ok with you can you make a build log for newbies hehehe would sure like to try to build one but currently kinda missing out on the concept hehehehe will this heat up with a single 3.7v battery?

 

[erik]

From the looks of it, it works on a principal of induction?

Induction heating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dgr]

erik, that's a DC power supply he's using. No induction heating. It's resistive.

pailpoe, what kind of NiMH you planning on using to get 10A @ 1V? How many wraps of the stainless mesh do you have? I wonder if the resistance could be brought higher? Or is there a reason you're trying to keep the resistance very low?

Neat concept. Thanks for posting this. It looks ideal to replace the inside of a cartomizer

 

[pailpoe]

Hart test : 26W @10A (3 x power of a LR 510)
14mm width 400 mesh

The power is between the electode and the mesh, not on the mesh, it's amazing.

 

[dgr]

The power is between the electode and the mesh, not on the mesh, it's amazing.

pailpoe, can you explain that better? Are you saying the only part of the mesh producing heat is where it is inside the receptacle tube?

 

[pailpoe]

It's amazing but the heat is generated mainly between the 2 tubes and the mesh.
Increasing the width of the mesh does not change the polarization of the system. (14 to 30 mm).
The important point here is the surface between the electrode and the mesh.
Increasing diameter or lenght change the resistance.

 

[pailpoe]

I go to bed. I'm tired.
I switch off my device.

Good Night.

 

[jlodvo]

im getting very excited on this, im trying to order the parts now

one question whats the material you use to joint (solder) the Electronic probe is it lead? and about the electronic probe its not harmful material when you heat it up and expose to liquid right? doesnt make any harmful chemical reaction when heated right? dont want pailpoe getting sick over this, but im sure he's doing it safely

again your the man..... great great work

 

[pailpoe]

Hy,

I use only lead free for my soldier : AgSn and I clean after for remove the deposit welding (solder flux).

For the tubes, the most important it's the diameter 2,4mm interior gold plated.

I get on a local electronic supplier for 1€/unit.

Try, it's very easy.

I try with nimh batteries and power regulation after my job.

 

[Circumspice]

WOW!

 

[pailpoe]

Thanks you . This atomizer is

 

[dgr]

Pailpoe,
Interesting about the localized heating. Do you think it's a higher resistance area because the mechanical connection between the tube and the mesh is poor? I assume you are measuring total resistance from the two ends of your ATO. I wonder what the resistance is of just the mesh?

How long have you ran one of these? I wonder if you will see the resistance increase with time or if the mesh is as oxidized as it is going to get?