NEW Dicodes Dani Box Mini

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RayofLight62

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I did a compare between the Dani box and the Therion (fully calibrated).
Using the same Berserker with the same Nifethal wire, the wire which allows the highest temperature precision.
The Therion keeps the coil temperature within +/- 5 C, the Dani within +/- 1 C.
While the Dani borders the incredible, it is of little effect on the final result, as other factors (like room temperature, wind, wick decay) can easily swamp both levels of precision.
Also, the Dani is tracking the temperature change much faster than the dna - during a drag, as an example.
But. The dna is configurable in a way the Dani cannot. This is why I have many dna devices, too.
 

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Regarding Yihi and LV. We have no info whatsoever about Yihi, just what we can infer from facts. They had no new designs since G class; released only a couple of new devices with diminished features; the SL has been marred by numerous returns and some uncorrected firmware bugs.

A direct voltage pod followed - and then nothing.

LV, see their website has become a placeholder; the company, after the release of the Orion and the Drone has split in two; and hasn't progressed since with new models, at a time when there are multiple release each week.

Lost Vape made outstanding devices with Evolv technology inside, and it is sad to lose such possibility now.
They made the Therion, by many considered the best vape device of all times.

Yihi, LV and Dicodes are my daily drivers... I may have to change something in the future.

The primary difference between Dicodes and most other companies that make e-cigs, is that their e-cig division is more of a hobby which began when one of the primary owners switched to vaping, went like, "this is terrible, we can do much better!" and then, they did.

Dicodes is actually a relatively large German company whose primary market is making chips for embedded medical devices: dicodes GmbH in Bottrop – Elektronikhersteller und Entwickler Their entire e-cig division is more of a hobby; the overall impression I get is that as long as they're not losing money and it stays in the black, then they don't care, and will continue making high-end devices at the pace they're going, with the target demographic they've chosen to address (high end, with people who do not need 200W to vape).

The company doesn't live or die based upon how many Extremes or Dani Boxes they sell. If they did, they'd be out of business long ago, because when I look at the serial numbers of a Dicodes I purchased years ago, vs. the one I got last week... they are all small-batch runs and can't possibly be selling more than thousands per unit. I would be very surprised if their entire annual output exceeds 10K units across all models.

Obviously you can't sustain an entire company, R&D costs, customer service, paying salaries, etc, at that level. But their price points and margins are obviously high enough to just keep that division going at the pace it's at.

I owned a SX Mini from Yihi years ago, it was... okay, but ended up back on my shelf. I also drank the Lost Vape koolaid and have 3 or 4 iterations of the Therion, as well as whatever the model was that came after the Therion which I never even took out of the box. I guess I collected them without any real intent of using it as a daily driver (see also: half the stuff in my collection). With Lost Vape, having no real idea about the company behind the devices or their plans, from a subjective point of view, it seems like their plan was to release The Most Awesome Mod that Ever Existed (in their eyes), and then immediately follow that up with v2 6 months later, v3 5 months after that, and so on. No model ever really lasted that long, and no model ever approached the build quality of Dicodes. Their MARKETING was very high end, their products, not so much. Dicodes on the obverse has very little marketing which is pretty anemic, and they release new products on very slow timeline with extremely limited production runs and pre-announce products which then take years to make it to market (their charging station took something like 2 years from announced as forthcoming, to production. Their plans for having a charger obviously extend even beyond that 2 year lag-time because every DaniBox and #6 had that charging port on the bottom, which couldn't be attached to anything for YEARS. Their dual-battery Dani Boxes have been forthcoming since 2016 and still aren't on the market, their lightweight titanium models are more collectors items then production runs -- they appear and disappear in very small batches, etc, etc, etc).

tl;dr: I don't think Dicodes is going anywhere. They'e very similar to ProVape/ProVari in the sense that they have their own priorities, have chosen to dominate a very niche high-end target demographic, who like their products, and can sustain the level of stability/growth needed to keep Dicodes e-cigs chugging along. Unlike ProVape in the olden days, their entire company does not revolve around their e-cig division.
 
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Hello Schimz,

I agree with most of your view on the matter. I have seen other Dicodes industrial products, and yes, the ecigs are not their main devices.

But they are built to the same level of competence and testing; once they put out a product, it stands how it is beta-tested for months; and the components they use in their devices are designed on purpose.

This thing surprises me every time, seen their annual production of only 10K devices, where Smoktek and others have a minimum run of 1M+ per device - and can't get their acts right - notwithstanding.

The Chinese High-End - Yihi and Lost Vape - we have no direct news why they stalled, but likely they had spent excessively in R&D and sold too little numbers - to fit anymore in the current economic climate in China, so for the time being the commercial high-end is left with Dicodes and not much else.

I hope you'll agree with me that their devices - even costing $300 each- are pretty cheap for what you get.

Problem is, with Chinese leaving high-end alone, and people slowly realising Dicodes are very efficient money-wise, they are becoming progressively more difficult to source.

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Still really enjoying both my black Dani 21700 and my blue Dani mini. I prefer the feel of the 21700 and prefer the battery indicator to the voltage meter in the mini, but the mini is my travel box since it’s more pocketable.

My only gripe with either one is the random ‘pulsing’. I’m not sure if it only does this in TC mode (since I only vape in TC) but once in a while both mods will pulse rapidly, seemingly in an attempt to regulate temperature. I can go through several tanks and batteries without it happening, then when it happens I can change tanks and batts and it will still continue for a while. Seeming completely random. I have tried reinitializing the mod to the ambient temp, sometimes that seems to work but not 100 percent of the time.

If you watch PBusardos review of the Dani box he documents this phenomenon too. It’s really the only thing that occasionally spoils an otherwise flawless vape experience. Hope I can get it figured out. As it stands it doesn’t happen enough to knock either mod out of primary rotation over my DNAs, both the Dani’s do a better job with temp regulation for SS316L mesh than any of my DNAs


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My stabwood is working (it was user error, LOL.) This means I will have to wait a bit to buy another because right now my discretionary budget is going to the kid. He had to fix his truck (oh how I wish my mom had not given it to him, it DEFINES money pit but he won't listen) and also had to get his wisdom teeth out.

He's like pathetically grateful, but like, I remember being that age and working rough jobs and barely getting by. It sucks. I keep telling him I am actually GLAD I can do it, as there have been times in my life where aid was impossible.

I do love my kiddo more than a Dani 21700. It's close.... But not THAT close. Hehe.

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Just a heads up for the good folk here - Creme de Vape now has the Mini in stock, all colors available. Price is roughly $215 depending on the exact exchange rate.

CdV's service is world class. And the sketchy "US Source" is still selling preorders (they have a horrible record in meeting their shipment date promises) at $295.
 

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he,he ... our 1st one (a blue one for my wife) is only 2 days old. And yes, she's loving the color, fit, finish and vape.
 

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Argh. I ordered mine in titan since that was the last one in stock. No biggie. Looks beautiful and the thing is tiny!
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..it has a third brightness level which kicks in after 96 hrs iirc...

So when searched the thread re: the battery charger, I saw the above comment. But in the owner's manual for the charger it states;

"The backlight of the display is dimmed to a lower brightness after 30 seconds. Whenever a mod is inserted or removed the backlight lids up again. After 12 hours of no change the backlight is switched off completely."

But my real question for those using the charger ... do you always leave it plugged in or just power it up when you charge your Dani?

With that 12 hour 'timer' it's highly unlikely (for me) that it would ever shut off and it seems, even on the dimmed level, it's running the display constantly which may lead to it wearing out faster. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it. :rolleyes:
 

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So when searched the thread re: the battery charger, I saw the above comment. But in the owner's manual for the charger it states;

"The backlight of the display is dimmed to a lower brightness after 30 seconds. Whenever a mod is inserted or removed the backlight lids up again. After 12 hours of no change the backlight is switched off completely."

But my real question for those using the charger ... do you always leave it plugged in or just power it up when you charge your Dani?

With that 12 hour 'timer' it's highly unlikely (for me) that it would ever shut off and it seems, even on the dimmed level, it's running the display constantly which may lead to it wearing out faster. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it. :rolleyes:

I do unplug mine, I kind of think the timer to shut off the display set to 12 hours is too long. This charger charges fast, I have never really timed it, but most of the time it is around 2 hours. I guess the thought that it is just sitting there draining power all that time bugs me. :|

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I guess the thought that it is just sitting there draining power all that time bugs me

I've only had it for 4 days ... but that's ^ the way I feel too. I have an Anker multi port USB charger that's always plugged in. The Dicodes charger is sitting next to it, so I'm just plugging/unplugging a USB cabe from the Anker to the Dicodes. If it were way less than 12 hours, then I'd probably just leave it plugged in using the supplied wall wart.
 

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My Dicodes charger is permanently plugged in, as it stays absolutely cool and silent when connected and not in use.

Sometime, during a given week, the Dani box isn't in my rotation. On this occasion, I have left the Dani in the charger, and around the third or fourth night of the week, I noticed a dim glow of the display, instead of total blackness.
This is what I called a third brightness level.

As general rule, it is always better to disconnect electrical devices when they are unused, especially switching power supplies - which can be easily killed by small power surges.

But I have left the Dicodes charger switched on for long periods of time - with no ill effects.
Same as my computer, router, the TV, and phone charger - and a bounty of other devices which I don't list here.
... the emergency lights... I never disconnect these, too.

A more pressing issue - I really need another charger for downstairs, do I...
 
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