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Seriously though, how does DiCoDes have a reputation for good temperature control in this era? I get back in the day working dry hit protection was rare, but thats about the best you can say for DiCoDes based on the Dani25 testing. What am I mising?
Youre probably right. I paid the full $400 for my dani 25, Im even proud to own it for its look and feel...but I cant defend its poor TC performance. I would take a DNA75C mirage over it for performance, any day.
DeCoDes does have a warranty, and are far above many others as far as taking care of its customers.
perhaps an email to them is your next best move.
Interesting. In my experience, DiCoDes has been the worst. I tried contacting DiCoDes about my findings, and they were not interested and would not respond to my initial suspicion that I had a faulty device even. Meanwhile, YiHi and dna have replaced my boards or other components that I broke and werent even covered by warranty, for the cost of shipping, several times now, and I always get a response within 48 hours. Maybe this is a Europe vs Australia location issue then?
there had to have been some interaction?
perhaps, a return to the seller may be in order?
how does it work in straight power mode?
battery used of high quality?
do you like the vape it gives?
i ll give ya fity fo it!!!
Jim
The seller indicated I should contact them directly because they couldnt see a warranty-able reason to refund me. It works fine in straight power mode, even put it on the testing rig just to be sure, tried all different settings etc. The vape it gives is terrible (because I only use TC mode) but I use it where I need a device that is indestructible! Solid steeeeeeeel! Daym it looks like a lightsaber too, and I cant say I hate that.
Brand new fully charged molicel P42A used in all tests for 21700 mods, brand new fully charged molicel P26As for 18650 mods. I have a stack of molicels just for testing purposes.
What are you missing? I'd suggest the design of your experiment. While eliminating variables is a must for a proper design in testing, you can't eliminate so many that you no longer have any validlity - so that the results do not reflect what you're trying to measure. In my mind, it would be like putting the mod in a freezer for a few hours and running your test while it's still inside. You'll get numbers, but they will not reflect the real world. The design does not take into account the actual process of vaping.
I may have read your posting wrong, but it appears that you are using a bare coil. I would suggest that there would be a big difference in actual vaping usage with your mod. Both the liquid and the incoming air are at roughly ambient temperature and will have a big effect on the temperature your coil will see. The volume of air and the liquid in the wick will have a buffering effect - sort of a heat sink that helps to stabilize the temperature. You have a large volume of juice and incoming air (in relation to the mass of the wire) and it will serve to dampen the effects of the resistance providing heat. A stablization if you will. With a bare coil it goes to maximum heat without the cooling that both would have provided. That might explain why you saw the instant surge and then the big swing as the power was reduced. People don't vape bare wire and I would doubt that the board was calibrated for this wide-open type of usage.
The Dicodes boards sample and adjust at a much higher rate than the competition. That spiking you see is the board trying to control the uncontrollable.
The engine in your car has coolant in the radiator. It needs to be there, since so many calibrations and measurements depend on that component being within a certain temperature range. You wouldn't drain the radiator and then complain that your car is not running right - and that's before it melts down and breaks.
I may have missed something about your testing, and if I did I apologize in advance.
It appears you did not look at the findings other than the very first chart? Contrary to your assumption, I am actually vaping on the coil in 4 out of 7 states tested for each device (each set of tests is identical). The other 3 are "Vaped dry" but wicked coils with no airflow, in each of low, mid and high resistance, across low mid and high mass.
I am delighted to have your engagement friend. This is an open source project, all software, analysis tools and even the instructions to build your own experimental rig (it will cost you only about as much as a high end mod, readily available parts) are publicly available for your scrutiny , and linked at the bottom of each post (anything missing, ask me and I will upload it). Despite my hours in labs and degree in physics, I can guarantee this methodology like all methodologies has a range of issues and weaknesses, some of which are identified in each post, and I gratefully receive any constructive criticism with regards to methodological issues that we can improve on, if practicable.
In fact I believe my experimental setup is probably one of the first, if only, experimental setup where information is captured during actual vaping usage. We do this by splitting the mod and atomizer across an electrical shunt, with remarkably low resistance. Mod resistance read of the coil is checked before it goes on the rig, and re-checked on the rig before the test run commences.
This is why my results are in fact so accurately a reflection of the actual vaping experience, which I can confirm reflect my subjective experiences of the devices tested. Any discrepancy that arises during setup means I will not test the mod (which happens with some mods that have dodgy connections for example). Since I am vaping all styles of coils, wicked, wet, with airflow, DiCoDes has no excuse for the poor outcomes, especially when you compare to DNA, YiHi or even the latest Smok tests with a corrected TCR value.
I am not using a bare coil, ever, every coil is wicked - some are round wire, some are fused claptons, some round claptons, even MTL builds - but the coils used and state and setting is an identical set for every device so you can compare across devices directly. The 4 vaped coils are juiced/dripped immediately before a vape, just as I do when using an RDA normally. Like when I vape normally, I let the coil pre-heat a moment after firing, before I start my draw (or blow if I think there is a risk of burning), usually a second or two into the run. This is in fact critical for high mass coils as I am sure you know, otherwise they will never get to temperature on a mod limited to say 75W.
Actually you can see from the raw data that DiCoDes and YiHi can both claim high sample rates (we throw them on an oscilloscope sometimes to see what they are really doing). But the DiCoDes is extremely slow to adjust its power input, which is what causes the poor performance, and the YiHis never adjust their input at all (which is what causes striping). Please refer to the test charts and oscilloscope shots (for YiHi) to observe this for yourself.
Overall your concerns are valid, but I think are accounted for by my methodology. Please let me know if I am missing something. No apologies necessary, I crave this kind of engagement and the more concerns I can consider in testing, the better will be the outcome for us all.
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I should also say, what you say is uncontrollable for the DiCoDes, is absolutely controllable for other mods. This is the conclusion you will I think objectively reach when looking across the same tests conditions and settings for other mods. Take a look at old and new DNA boards, geekvape aegis solo and even the latest smok mag test with tweaked TCR.
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I would be keen to rig-test another DiCoDes model by the way, if anyone felt confident/curious enough to send me one - just in case mine is an anomaly and actually other DiCoDes models can handle SS TC as well as other modern mods. I will treat it like my own child I assure you, and I would love to be able to say DiCoDes can actually do SS temperature control, I was probably more surprised by the results than anyone. The testing is safe to the mod, its the same as vaping on it, there are no weird connections or harsh equipment holding the device or anything. Just a 510 wasp nano base to connect to. Would have it on its way back to you a week later. I just dont want to spend another $400 to get the same result, when that money can buy 5-8 other mods that are more likely to be able to handle SS TC better, for the community. At some point I will try to get some resistherm (which didnt arrive with my DiCoDes Dani25 for some reason) to test on my Dani25 also, its just hard to come by and expensive down under.
Just a heads-up: Dicodes-USA has had $325 of mine for over 7 weeks now and haven't responded to emails in over a month. And of course, they're not answering the phone.
Two Items I ordered were shipped pretty quickly (about $200 worth) So I'm not sure what to think
Two Items I ordered were shipped pretty quickly (about $200 worth) So I'm not sure what to think
Sorry BNEAT, that sucks!! All I have for them is this contact info, if having a name helps at all:
Ana Martin
Product Sales
DICODES-USA
(818) 570-5549
Ana Martin
Product Sales
DICODES-USA
(818) 570-5549
If I had a euro for every time I've read this, I'd be able to buy a Dicodes mod.
This is who runs Dicodes USA:
https://vapeprosintl.com/
This is their address:
Dicodes USA | Better Business Bureau® Profile
Here is a link to a reddit thread:
Is dicodes USA a scam? : electronic_cigarette
Good luck.
https://vapeprosintl.com/
This is their address:
- Oasis Ara Damansara Jalan PJU 1A,
Subang, Selangor Malaysia 47200
Dicodes USA | Better Business Bureau® Profile
Here is a link to a reddit thread:
Is dicodes USA a scam? : electronic_cigarette
Good luck.
I sure wish I would've done a quick search on here before I pulled the trigger. For some reason I thought they were an extension of Dicodes. When you're looking for a relatively hard to find item, sometimes it's easy to let your guard down when you read those mind altering words - "IN STOCK" 
I don't know why legal authorties have not taken any action regarding these people. They have a history of using addresses occupied by other, unrelated businesses. I checked one out earlier (may have been the one previous to this or maybe they've used others) and it was a place that rented/leased large portable air conditioners. According to their local BBB, D-USA is now listing their location as 28446 Constellation Rd Valencia, CA 91355-5081.
Searching that address, I see that it was a vacant property two years ago, and since then Ars Performance and Dray Tech Inc (Altering & Remodeling Contractors, Building Contractors) have been tenants. Dicodes-USA is not listed at that address by any search service I used.Just like with the air conditioning address, the only place I see that lists Dicodes-USA being there is their own web page.
They still have a banner stating they're the authorized distrbutor for North America. They are not and never have been. When they eventually provided a street address for their business, they were not doing business there. And once I pointed that out online, their address was updated to the one currently listed on their site. I'm pretty sure they are not there either - it would be great for anyone local to do a drive-by to prove me wrong.
And finally, take a look at the screen shot I took a couple of minutes ago. They're offering the Dani DLC for sale, with a "add to cart" button. Check out that they say it is a preorder and when it will arrive. I will guarantee that no one would ever be able to get what their credit card was charged for, since that model was a very limited production and sold out quickly worldwide.
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