New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[yankeebobo]

Make sure that the wire leading from the ground screw is laying FLAT on the base until it reaches the wick. If you see daylight between the wire and "floor" before the wick, you'll likely have problems. Also, tighten the top nut, then take a toothpick and put just a tad of distance between the pos post and the wick. Too much is no good either.

I was under the impression a short would lower resistance, that's why shorts cause error codes on provari/vmax. Resistance drops causing too many amps from the device. (correct me if I am wrong, still a noob)

Regrettably I did not test the resistance before installing the coil. So even if I have the coil glowing evenly, and a stable resistance I still may have shorts?

 

[yankeebobo]

I'm curious.....what type of lock switch does it have? That's a bottom button right?

Smoke tech telescope ss. Just temp. Until Jim makes the 18xxx
just got it. So well see it it can put up with my drops, battery changes, motorcycle, hard landings. 2-3 amps. greasy italian hands. So far I really like it.

Tony

 

[Tonytiger1]

I'm curious.....what type of lock switch does it have? That's a bottom button right?

Yes


Tony

 

[Vapor2112]

I've actually had the opposite experience...
I run the wide ensuring that there is a gap..
Particularly as juice will inevitably get between that wire and base. Running the coil up from the connection off the base in as short of a path as possible to the wick has always yielded the best results for me..

Make sure that the wire leading from the ground screw is laying FLAT on the base until it reaches the wick. If you see daylight between the wire and "floor" before the wick, you'll likely have problems. Also, tighten the top nut, then take a toothpick and put just a tad of distance between the pos post and the wick. Too much is no good either.

 

[killbride]

Yes


Tony

Where did you get the ss one? I've only seen that like painted aluminum one. That one you have looks great though!

 

[DSmooch]

Yes, after a few comments here of ppl saying they could actually wiggle their wick out of the coils... I tried looser and true it wicks a lot better... are u saying you coils don't even touch the wick?

I've actually had the opposite experience...
I run the wide ensuring that there is a gap..
Particularly as juice will inevitably get between that wire and base. Running the coil up from the connection off the base in as short of a path as possible to the wick has always yielded the best results for me..

 

[killbride]

Make sure that the wire leading from the ground screw is laying FLAT on the base until it reaches the wick. If you see daylight between the wire and "floor" before the wick, you'll likely have problems. Also, tighten the top nut, then take a toothpick and put just a tad of distance between the pos post and the wick. Too much is no good either.

Ah that must be where I'm getting my extra resistance! I'll recoil it when I get home. Only had this thing a week and I've probably made at least 15 coils, they get better every time, maybe the 16th time is the charm?

 

[Vapor2112]

Yes, after a few comments here of ppl saying they could actually wiggle their wick out of the coils... I tried looser and true it wicks a lot better... are u saying you coils don't even touch the wick?

They should just touch the wick at all points. Lots of people like to put a paper clip or needle in the wick when wrapping to stabilize it but I find that ends up making me wrap too tight as loose sight of how tight or loose the coil is. Some feedback from the wick helps me judge.
I find shortcuts like this and like the cig paper prevents learning the right way...
Little trial and error goes a long way, and once you get it right, you'll get it right virtually every time with very little effort...

 

[WNCmotard]

Smoke tech telescope ss. Just temp. Until Jim makes the 18xxx
just got it. So well see it it can put up with my drops, battery changes, motorcycle, hard landings. 2-3 amps. greasy italian hands. So far I really like it.

Tony

That's a good looking mod Tony, I hope it holds up well for you.

 

[yankeebobo]

I've actually had the opposite experience...
I run the wide ensuring that there is a gap..
Particularly as juice will inevitably get between that wire and base. Running the coil up from the connection off the base in as short of a path as possible to the wick has always yielded the best results for me..

I say whatever works. Maybe it was my method, but I constantly experienced hot spots and shorts my first week or so. I've adapted the practice of staying down low and ever since then, bam.

 

[DSmooch]

sounds good... if you have the opportunity and could spare a pic of your set up that would be nice...

They should just touch the wick at all points. Lots of people like to put a paper clip or needle in the wick when wrapping to stabilize it but I find that ends up making me wrap too tight as loose sight of how tight or loose the coil is. Some feedback from the wick helps me judge.
I find shortcuts like this and like the cig paper prevents learning the right way...
Little trial and error goes a long way, and once you get it right, you'll get it right virtually every time with very little effort...

 

[Vapor2112]

There's more than one way to skin a cat...

In the end, we all need to find what works best for us, and the best thing we can do is share our varying preferences with those struggling.

Some people swear by the cigarette paper, I'll never use it. Makes the world go 'round, right?

I say whatever works. Maybe it was my method, but I constantly experienced hot spots and shorts my first week or so. I've adapted the practice of staying down low and ever since then, bam.

 

[Tonytiger1]

Ah that must be where I'm getting my extra resistance! I'll recoil it when I get home. Only had this thing a week and I've probably made at least 15 coils, they get better every time, maybe the 16th time is the charm?

As long a it works. Don't over think it. It's like trying to go the speed of light. The closer you get the harder it gets.
some coils are better then others. Not worth pulling your hair out to get 2% improvement. It can be far from perfect and still give a great vape.
Look at mine all messed up.

I learned over time I can't tell the difference

I just took this cloud for you.

Tony

 

[DSmooch]

at this stage, we should be in for a bit more than "what's working"...

 

[yankeebobo]

Exactly. I tried the paper trick. Needless extra step i found. For me no gain.
And frankly, those that are reading this that can't get theirs going....they won't care if it's laying down, tipping up, wrapped in the air before the wick. As long as whatever they try works for them. This thread is BASED off various opinions and what worked for THEM. Put together your own book of what works for you.

There's more than one way to skin a cat...

In the end, we all need to find what works best for us, and the best thing we can do is share our varying preferences with those struggling.

Some people swear by the cigarette paper, I'll never use it. Makes the world go 'round, right?

 

[Vapor2112]

Here's a pic I have handy of a pretty scrappy looking coil, but it vaped like a champ, and you'll get the idea:

sounds good... if you have the opportunity and could spare a pic of your set up that would be nice...

 

[Uma]

I toadily agree! Even if Rick or Scott or whoever, gave a workshop on oxidizing and coiling, to 10 participants, there would be 10 various outcomes even though the instructor went from participant to participant to guide each along their way. Everybody has a different sense of time, color, tension, perspective, perception, patience, and dexterity.

 

[Uma]

Congrats on your new mod Tony!!

 

[Vapor2112]

Exactly...

The key is trial and error to find out what you like best, then building consistency around that.. Also important to understand what what works well on one genny device doesn't "always" exactly translate to working well on another. I've had to re-learn what works best, at least to some degree, with each device.

That said, even though tolerance is fairly tight on the DID, its pretty forgiving and easy to work with IMO..

I toadily agree! Even if Rick or Scott or whoever, gave a workshop on oxidizing and coiling, to 10 participants, there would be 10 various outcomes even though the instructor went from participant to participant to guide each along their way. Everybody has a different sense of time, color, tension, perspective, perception, patience, and dexterity.

 

[yankeebobo]

Tight yes. Forgiving? Well, that depends on what day you ask me.
I've had times where I figured I'd try some other methods discussed. Fail. I've tried them over and over making slight adjustments along the way. I seem to usually end up back at the exact spot where it works for me.
BUT, owning other Gen attys, I know exactly what you mean by each being different. NONE of mine coil or behave like the other. Example: I can't wrap the DID while the wick is in the hole. Period. No matter how many times I'd watch getcha man, I have to wrap the wick and THEN put the whole thing in the hole and make the connections. Another Gen atty? I can wrap the damn thing upside down and it fires. (course I get juice all over me)

Exactly...

The key is trial and error to find out what you like best, then building consistency around that.. Also important to understand what what works well on one genny device doesn't "always" exactly translate to working well on another. I've had to re-learn what works best, at least to some degree, with each device.

That said, even though tolerance is fairly tight on the DID, its pretty forgiving and easy to work with IMO..